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Basically they disagree on how to treat their fellow citizens. Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. But bo

Basically they disagree on how to treat their fellow citizens. Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. But both have largely been ok with everyone being exploited by feudal trade economics, bombing other nations to satisfy global political norms, and swindling developing nations out of their resources, while emotionally coddling elites. It means something to not be outright hostile to the truly marginalized, but the Dems have not exactly been labors friend. And most people are laborers. They’ve failed the majority plenty.

collegecamp293 7y ago
"Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes." There are tons of YouTube videos on college campuses that prove otherwise.
- awinder 7y ago
  Reminder: having shitty ideas is not a protected class, and “free speech” does not mean you get to say whatever batshit crazy thing comes to mind without other people expressing themselves
  - jayess 7y ago
    You just made parent's point perfectly. A total lack of self awareness.
  - SkyBelow 7y ago
    There seems to be an implication that the outcry is only ever against "shitty ideas". I think there are plenty of cases that prove this untrue.
  - cwperkins 7y ago
    Listen to yourself man. By closing the door to debate you open up the floor to hostility. Some conservatives have demented ideas, but that doesn’t mean ALL do. If we are going to heal our divisions it’s going to take more than each side calling the other ‘Snowflake’
    - awinder 7y ago
      I'm not taking a side here and said nothing about not listening to any conservative or closing off to debate. I'm merely pointing out that "college kids didn't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A or B" is not equivalent to how classes of people are treated in the slightest.
      - mamon 7y ago
        There's a difference between "I dont want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I won't come to his lecture" and "I don't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I think he should be banned from ever entering my college premises".
  - ng12 7y ago
    Plenty of people on both sides have "batshit crazy" ideas, except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs
    - CamperBob2 7y ago
      except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground. Well, Goldwater tried to warn the Republicans about what would happen if they kept sucking up to the evangelicals, and... Oh, wait, were you talking about Democrats?
- komali2 7y ago
  I was under the impression we were speaking of government officials, not 19 year old college kids.
- kro92kfmrzz 7y ago
  I was describing the politicians themselves. But I did conclude that they also fall short in many areas.
cwperkins 7y ago
That’s a smear against conservatives and blatantly untrue. There are activist organizations on both sides calling for violence and both should be condemned.
- throwaway031519 7y ago
  Corollary: You also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
  - cwperkins 7y ago
    How does this comment facilitate discussion?
    - komali2 7y ago
      At this point this whole conversation's fucked imo
jayess 7y ago
> Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes What rock are you living under?
SkyBelow 7y ago
>Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. Republicans are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. Not the same classes, perhaps even classes that many don't want recognized, such as the unborn, but the statement is still just as true.
- ModernMech 7y ago
  Abortion isn't blatant hostility toward fetuses. No one gets an abortion because they hate fetuses.
lopmotr 7y ago
> not be outright hostile to the truly marginalized No popular party can do this or they wouldn't be truly marginalized. By definition, it's impossible.

collegecamp293 7y ago

"Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes." There are tons of YouTube videos on college campuses that prove otherwise.

awinder 7y ago
Reminder: having shitty ideas is not a protected class, and “free speech” does not mean you get to say whatever batshit crazy thing comes to mind without other people expressing themselves
- jayess 7y ago
  You just made parent's point perfectly. A total lack of self awareness.
- SkyBelow 7y ago
  There seems to be an implication that the outcry is only ever against "shitty ideas". I think there are plenty of cases that prove this untrue.
- cwperkins 7y ago
  Listen to yourself man. By closing the door to debate you open up the floor to hostility. Some conservatives have demented ideas, but that doesn’t mean ALL do. If we are going to heal our divisions it’s going to take more than each side calling the other ‘Snowflake’
  - awinder 7y ago
    I'm not taking a side here and said nothing about not listening to any conservative or closing off to debate. I'm merely pointing out that "college kids didn't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A or B" is not equivalent to how classes of people are treated in the slightest.
    - mamon 7y ago
      There's a difference between "I dont want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I won't come to his lecture" and "I don't want to listen to token conservative talkinghead A, so I think he should be banned from ever entering my college premises".
- ng12 7y ago
  Plenty of people on both sides have "batshit crazy" ideas, except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs
  - CamperBob2 7y ago
    except one leans more heavily on mob mentality thanks to the self-righteousness that comes with the unshaken belief that you have the moral highground. Well, Goldwater tried to warn the Republicans about what would happen if they kept sucking up to the evangelicals, and... Oh, wait, were you talking about Democrats?
komali2 7y ago
I was under the impression we were speaking of government officials, not 19 year old college kids.
kro92kfmrzz 7y ago
I was describing the politicians themselves. But I did conclude that they also fall short in many areas.

cwperkins 7y ago

That’s a smear against conservatives and blatantly untrue. There are activist organizations on both sides calling for violence and both should be condemned.

throwaway031519 7y ago
Corollary: You also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
- cwperkins 7y ago
  How does this comment facilitate discussion?
  - komali2 7y ago
    At this point this whole conversation's fucked imo

jayess 7y ago

> Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes What rock are you living under?

SkyBelow 7y ago

>Democrats are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. Republicans are against outright hostility and blatant marginalization of certain classes. Not the same classes, perhaps even classes that many don't want recognized, such as the unborn, but the statement is still just as true.

ModernMech 7y ago
Abortion isn't blatant hostility toward fetuses. No one gets an abortion because they hate fetuses.

lopmotr 7y ago

> not be outright hostile to the truly marginalized No popular party can do this or they wouldn't be truly marginalized. By definition, it's impossible.