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Until a UFO crash lands on my front garden, I'm going to continue worrying about; weird weather, extinction of species, privacy and data leaks, increasing restr

Until a UFO crash lands on my front garden, I'm going to continue worrying about; weird weather, extinction of species, privacy and data leaks, increasing restrictions of freedom by western governments and the price of a loaf of bread.

sbenitoj 7y ago
If you go gluten free you can take that last one off your list of worries too ; )
- staticautomatic 7y ago
  Or, you know, eat gluten-free bread.
  - azinman2 7y ago
    Or just stop eating bread, but otherwise eat gluten.
hedora 7y ago
This might be a good time to watch “They Live”.
- mothsonasloth 7y ago
  Never seen this, added to my watch list. Now that Duke Nukem reference makes sense! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTK8eff1Zsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTK8eff1Zsk
- whenchamenia 7y ago
  It's always a good time. I am honestly suprised there is not a remake. But with the cape-fest spewing from hollywood right now, perhaps it should wait a bit longer.
chmike 7y ago
That would be a straightforward way to know the truth. But it can take a long time until a UFO would crash in someones front garden, if they are real. An alternative path is to use the inductive research process. In this process, we assume that testimonies are reports of real encounters with Unconventional Flying Objects. These objects flying in our atmosphere must respect the law of physics that we know very well. Could we deduce their propulsion mechanism from the collected data ? This is the research path followed by the physic professor Auguste Meessen since 1972. The result is the pulsed electromagnetic propulsion system (PEMP) that requires an intense alternating magnetic field. He also suggest a new type of oscillator that can produce this intense field. The outer shell of the UFO must be supraconductive at room temperature and above. The side effect is that it isolate the object and the passegers from the intense field. This theory still needs experimental validation. Since humans don’t master supraconductivity at room temperature, it would be a strong hint that UFOs are from ET origin. This is just to remind that ufology can be matter of scientific research and that we don’t have to captured a UFO to start studying it. 1. "Pulsed EM Propulsion of Unconventional Flying Objects" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Pulsed_EM_Propulsion_of_Unconventional_Flying_Objects.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Pulsed_EM_Propulsion_of_... 2. "Evidence of Very Strong Low Frequency Magnetic Fields" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen)/UFO_Evidence_of_Very_Strong_Low_Frequency_Magnetic_Fields.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen)/UFO_Evidence_of_Very_Strong... 3. "Production of EM Surface Waves by Superconducting Spheres: A New Type of Harmonic Oscillators" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Production_of_EM_Surface_Waves_by_Superconducting_Spheres.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Production_of_EM_Surface...
- amelius 7y ago
  Ok, but wouldn't such a "PEMP" produce a clear electromagnetic signature that we can search for in the sky?
SeanAppleby 7y ago
I would vote for you to worry about increasing restrictions of freedom by governments outside of the west, since the overton window for acceptable policy proposals will be pushed on by what other nations get away with. If China succeeds in monitoring all of their citizens and manipulating them into an easy to govern mass of conformity and subservience through their social credit system, it seems highly likely that that will at least make people in the west slightly more willing to move in that direction than if the whole world would just agree that it was far beyond the pale.
- ccrush 7y ago
  If that social credit bullshit makes its way here, they'll be prying the last bit of freedom out of my cold, dead hands. I don't give a fuck about China or what those clowns believe in, and if I'll have to risk never visiting their cement and plastic factory of a shit hole country, it'll be just fine. I'm never going there with their social credit system, and I bet you all the world's money isn't either. No one is giving up that much freedom when they're getting so little in return. It's absurd to anyone that doesn't understand why it's in place, and once the generations that originated it based on the ugliness of the recent past, the truth is that it'll go away over and over again. That, combined with the fact that it's such a fragile system to begin with (i.e., it takes quite a bit of human involvement to run all aspects of it including policing and interrogation and incarceration) means that the system can't survive a generational divide.
  - SkyBelow 7y ago
    >If that social credit bullshit makes its way here What do you think about private companies providing a similar service, for example to potential employers?
- boo-boo-nah-nah 7y ago
  So, let’s just contemplate for a second, the idea that China clamps down, and succeeds in technological oppression. They do indeed triumph in their vision of conformity and subservience, producing the perception that the technology restricted a population in ways making it easier to govern. That doesn’t mean China wasn’t already easy to govern, and that the technology is mostly incidental. It also doesn’t mean that the same here wouldn’t be met with violent backlash and abject vitriol, if ever such a transgression were put upon us, even though we watch from afar with idle bemusement for now. Point being, history has lots of examples where it happens over there and it sucks for them but so what. Then, you try it on us over here, and get your fucking head ripped off, because yeah, nah... So, you know, it’s fine if China wants to fuck around like a bunch of dipshits with their thumbs up their asses. But don’t think for a second that the same thing’s going to go down that way over here.
fauigerzigerk 7y ago
What about antibiotics resistence? That's what worries me the most. Catching a couple of UFOs and getting a hold of some advanced tech might help with that.
- sologoub 7y ago
  Or could bring some superbugs we haven’t event contemplated and the current host might be largely immune to. previously isolated groups usually don’t do well when meeting other groups who had much wider contact and therefore exposure to more pathogens.
  - fauigerzigerk 7y ago
    I doubt that would work across completely unrelated species. Unfortunately, the same may be true for any med-tech they bring.
    - wool_gather 7y ago
      Maybe at the level of viruses/bacteria, but even something like Dutch elm disease (fungus) or something macro like an insect that finds itself accidentally over-adapted compared to native species could be devastating.
darepublic 7y ago
obviously the aliens will save us from all your worries
avium 7y ago
Your sentiment could be the reason why aliens permit these fleeting reveals, assuming these really are alien crafts.
- Udo 7y ago
  But what would be accomplished by that? Why do it in the first place?
  - avium 7y ago
    Who knows? Could be they were trying to monitor us and made a mistake, but the mistake was within an acceptable margin of error.
pier25 7y ago
Worry? It would actually be pretty awesome. I mean, confirming UFOs are real, not the crashing in your front garden.

sbenitoj 7y ago

If you go gluten free you can take that last one off your list of worries too ; )

staticautomatic 7y ago
Or, you know, eat gluten-free bread.
- azinman2 7y ago
  Or just stop eating bread, but otherwise eat gluten.

hedora 7y ago

This might be a good time to watch “They Live”.

mothsonasloth 7y ago
Never seen this, added to my watch list. Now that Duke Nukem reference makes sense! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTK8eff1Zsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTK8eff1Zsk
whenchamenia 7y ago
It's always a good time. I am honestly suprised there is not a remake. But with the cape-fest spewing from hollywood right now, perhaps it should wait a bit longer.

chmike 7y ago

That would be a straightforward way to know the truth. But it can take a long time until a UFO would crash in someones front garden, if they are real. An alternative path is to use the inductive research process. In this process, we assume that testimonies are reports of real encounters with Unconventional Flying Objects. These objects flying in our atmosphere must respect the law of physics that we know very well. Could we deduce their propulsion mechanism from the collected data ? This is the research path followed by the physic professor Auguste Meessen since 1972. The result is the pulsed electromagnetic propulsion system (PEMP) that requires an intense alternating magnetic field. He also suggest a new type of oscillator that can produce this intense field. The outer shell of the UFO must be supraconductive at room temperature and above. The side effect is that it isolate the object and the passegers from the intense field. This theory still needs experimental validation. Since humans don’t master supraconductivity at room temperature, it would be a strong hint that UFOs are from ET origin. This is just to remind that ufology can be matter of scientific research and that we don’t have to captured a UFO to start studying it. 1. "Pulsed EM Propulsion of Unconventional Flying Objects" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Pulsed_EM_Propulsion_of_Unconventional_Flying_Objects.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Pulsed_EM_Propulsion_of_... 2. "Evidence of Very Strong Low Frequency Magnetic Fields" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen)/UFO_Evidence_of_Very_Strong_Low_Frequency_Magnetic_Fields.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen)/UFO_Evidence_of_Very_Strong... 3. "Production of EM Surface Waves by Superconducting Spheres: A New Type of Harmonic Oscillators" http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Production_of_EM_Surface_Waves_by_Superconducting_Spheres.pdf http://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/UFO_Production_of_EM_Surface...

amelius 7y ago
Ok, but wouldn't such a "PEMP" produce a clear electromagnetic signature that we can search for in the sky?

SeanAppleby 7y ago

I would vote for you to worry about increasing restrictions of freedom by governments outside of the west, since the overton window for acceptable policy proposals will be pushed on by what other nations get away with. If China succeeds in monitoring all of their citizens and manipulating them into an easy to govern mass of conformity and subservience through their social credit system, it seems highly likely that that will at least make people in the west slightly more willing to move in that direction than if the whole world would just agree that it was far beyond the pale.

ccrush 7y ago
If that social credit bullshit makes its way here, they'll be prying the last bit of freedom out of my cold, dead hands. I don't give a fuck about China or what those clowns believe in, and if I'll have to risk never visiting their cement and plastic factory of a shit hole country, it'll be just fine. I'm never going there with their social credit system, and I bet you all the world's money isn't either. No one is giving up that much freedom when they're getting so little in return. It's absurd to anyone that doesn't understand why it's in place, and once the generations that originated it based on the ugliness of the recent past, the truth is that it'll go away over and over again. That, combined with the fact that it's such a fragile system to begin with (i.e., it takes quite a bit of human involvement to run all aspects of it including policing and interrogation and incarceration) means that the system can't survive a generational divide.
- SkyBelow 7y ago
  >If that social credit bullshit makes its way here What do you think about private companies providing a similar service, for example to potential employers?
boo-boo-nah-nah 7y ago
So, let’s just contemplate for a second, the idea that China clamps down, and succeeds in technological oppression. They do indeed triumph in their vision of conformity and subservience, producing the perception that the technology restricted a population in ways making it easier to govern. That doesn’t mean China wasn’t already easy to govern, and that the technology is mostly incidental. It also doesn’t mean that the same here wouldn’t be met with violent backlash and abject vitriol, if ever such a transgression were put upon us, even though we watch from afar with idle bemusement for now. Point being, history has lots of examples where it happens over there and it sucks for them but so what. Then, you try it on us over here, and get your fucking head ripped off, because yeah, nah... So, you know, it’s fine if China wants to fuck around like a bunch of dipshits with their thumbs up their asses. But don’t think for a second that the same thing’s going to go down that way over here.

fauigerzigerk 7y ago

What about antibiotics resistence? That's what worries me the most. Catching a couple of UFOs and getting a hold of some advanced tech might help with that.

sologoub 7y ago
Or could bring some superbugs we haven’t event contemplated and the current host might be largely immune to. previously isolated groups usually don’t do well when meeting other groups who had much wider contact and therefore exposure to more pathogens.
- fauigerzigerk 7y ago
  I doubt that would work across completely unrelated species. Unfortunately, the same may be true for any med-tech they bring.
  - wool_gather 7y ago
    Maybe at the level of viruses/bacteria, but even something like Dutch elm disease (fungus) or something macro like an insect that finds itself accidentally over-adapted compared to native species could be devastating.

darepublic 7y ago

obviously the aliens will save us from all your worries

avium 7y ago

Your sentiment could be the reason why aliens permit these fleeting reveals, assuming these really are alien crafts.

Udo 7y ago
But what would be accomplished by that? Why do it in the first place?
- avium 7y ago
  Who knows? Could be they were trying to monitor us and made a mistake, but the mistake was within an acceptable margin of error.

pier25 7y ago

Worry? It would actually be pretty awesome. I mean, confirming UFOs are real, not the crashing in your front garden.