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Well in her defense the Myers Briggs is tarot cards for people with LinkedIn profiles. There’s not a bit of scientific validity behind it. It’s an entertainment

by crsv 7y ago

Well in her defense the Myers Briggs is tarot cards for people with LinkedIn profiles. There’s not a bit of scientific validity behind it. It’s an entertainment experience not a psychometrically valid diagnostic instrument.

m463 7y ago
A data driven exploration of Myers briggs might make a good article.
- nradov 7y ago
  It would be a short article. There's really no reliable data.
  - disgruntledphd2 7y ago
    Nah, there's quite a bit. However, saying that the Myers-Briggs is the worst personality test available is a little bit like saying the Holocaust was the worst genocide ever. It's true, but that doesn't mean that the others were good. In general, personality psychometrics is a pretty difficult field to work in. We don't have another source of data for personality, and as such, it's difficult to measure constructs appropriately. Additionally, modern psychometric methods like IRT work best for tests where the answer is known, and so without another source of evidence, personality psychometrics is a very difficult field. Finally, the "supported" model in psychology, the Five Factor Model is potentially not robust. The issue is that the authors refuse to use confirmatory factor analysis on their model, and invent new methods (procrustean rotation) to justify their particular choice of constructs. When these analyses were done by others and suggested that their model was incorrect, they huffed and puffed their way through the ensuing academic catfight in the journals. tl;dr myers briggs bad, nothing else is much better.
danso 7y ago
The only time I've ever taken Myers Briggs was during a team-building retreat for being a college residence hall advisor. It was just a "for fun" thing, like doing the trust fall exercise. For the director to say she judged Angwin for refusing to do Myers Briggs is as comical and absurd to me as whining that Angwin was scared to do the trust fall, or didn't like playing icebreaker bingo.

by crsv 7y ago

m463 7y ago

A data driven exploration of Myers briggs might make a good article.

nradov 7y ago
It would be a short article. There's really no reliable data.
- disgruntledphd2 7y ago
  Nah, there's quite a bit. However, saying that the Myers-Briggs is the worst personality test available is a little bit like saying the Holocaust was the worst genocide ever. It's true, but that doesn't mean that the others were good. In general, personality psychometrics is a pretty difficult field to work in. We don't have another source of data for personality, and as such, it's difficult to measure constructs appropriately. Additionally, modern psychometric methods like IRT work best for tests where the answer is known, and so without another source of evidence, personality psychometrics is a very difficult field. Finally, the "supported" model in psychology, the Five Factor Model is potentially not robust. The issue is that the authors refuse to use confirmatory factor analysis on their model, and invent new methods (procrustean rotation) to justify their particular choice of constructs. When these analyses were done by others and suggested that their model was incorrect, they huffed and puffed their way through the ensuing academic catfight in the journals. tl;dr myers briggs bad, nothing else is much better.

danso 7y ago

The only time I've ever taken Myers Briggs was during a team-building retreat for being a college residence hall advisor. It was just a "for fun" thing, like doing the trust fall exercise. For the director to say she judged Angwin for refusing to do Myers Briggs is as comical and absurd to me as whining that Angwin was scared to do the trust fall, or didn't like playing icebreaker bingo.