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No, it runs only on hydrogen (to EV direct drive). https://m.hyundaiusa.com/nexo/ https://m.hyundaiusa.com/nexo/. Zero emissions, refuels in five minutes at o

by 7e 8y ago

No, it runs only on hydrogen (to EV direct drive). https://m.hyundaiusa.com/nexo/ https://m.hyundaiusa.com/nexo/. Zero emissions, refuels in five minutes at one of California's 40 stations. Soon all hydrogen production will be renewable from solar and wind electrolysis. Exciting times.

adventured 8y ago
It's the hydrogen that makes it a hybrid. The parent comment is correct. Being a hybrid does not require eg a gasoline motor. It's not strictly an electric vehicle, it requires hydrogen in the process. Their own diagram is very clear about this matter: motor + fuel cell + hydrogen + battery. https://m.hyundaiusa.com/images/vehicles/pages/vlp/2019/nexo/main/fuel-cell-explained/system-mobile.svg https://m.hyundaiusa.com/images/vehicles/pages/vlp/2019/nexo...
- 7e 8y ago
  That's not the common definition of hybrid. Here, electricity directly powers an electric motor and there are no emissions. Is a Tesla a hybrid because some of its electricity comes from regenerative breaking? How about if some comes from from ions in an electrolyte solution?
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  - computerex 8y ago
    I think you're overthinking it. Hybrid cars are not bad, they are pretty cool. It's a matter of semantics. A hydrogen fuel cell car could be considered a hybrid because the primary source of energy, hydrogen, is converted into energy and stored into an electric battery, which powers the drivetrain. Zero emissions, no internal combustion engine, hydrogen-electric hybrid. Tesla is pure electric. You charge the battery itself, directly.
  - wmf 8y ago
    That sounds like a series hybrid; when people say electric they mean battery electric. The point is moot since hydrogen is pointless.
    - code_duck 8y ago
      Perhaps for consumer automobiles. There’s a lot of research into hydrogen fuel cells for military and space.
    - imtringued 8y ago
      Almost every industrial vehicle will have to depend on hydrogen if we want to reduce emissions beyond personal transportation.
mikeash 8y ago
How much does that fill up cost? That, and the relative scarcity of filling stations, seem to make hydrogen vehicles supremely unattractive.
- selectodude 8y ago
  It's like $8 per gallon of gasoline distance equivalent last I checked.
- NotSammyHagar 8y ago
  it's not like there's no hydrogen stations. :-) i mean there are 2 in california, and then i think no more on the west coast.

by 7e 8y ago

adventured 8y ago

It's the hydrogen that makes it a hybrid. The parent comment is correct. Being a hybrid does not require eg a gasoline motor. It's not strictly an electric vehicle, it requires hydrogen in the process. Their own diagram is very clear about this matter: motor + fuel cell + hydrogen + battery. https://m.hyundaiusa.com/images/vehicles/pages/vlp/2019/nexo/main/fuel-cell-explained/system-mobile.svg https://m.hyundaiusa.com/images/vehicles/pages/vlp/2019/nexo...

7e 8y ago
That's not the common definition of hybrid. Here, electricity directly powers an electric motor and there are no emissions. Is a Tesla a hybrid because some of its electricity comes from regenerative breaking? How about if some comes from from ions in an electrolyte solution?
- deleted 8y ago
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- computerex 8y ago
  I think you're overthinking it. Hybrid cars are not bad, they are pretty cool. It's a matter of semantics. A hydrogen fuel cell car could be considered a hybrid because the primary source of energy, hydrogen, is converted into energy and stored into an electric battery, which powers the drivetrain. Zero emissions, no internal combustion engine, hydrogen-electric hybrid. Tesla is pure electric. You charge the battery itself, directly.
- wmf 8y ago
  That sounds like a series hybrid; when people say electric they mean battery electric. The point is moot since hydrogen is pointless.
  - code_duck 8y ago
    Perhaps for consumer automobiles. There’s a lot of research into hydrogen fuel cells for military and space.
  - imtringued 8y ago
    Almost every industrial vehicle will have to depend on hydrogen if we want to reduce emissions beyond personal transportation.

mikeash 8y ago

How much does that fill up cost? That, and the relative scarcity of filling stations, seem to make hydrogen vehicles supremely unattractive.

selectodude 8y ago
It's like $8 per gallon of gasoline distance equivalent last I checked.
NotSammyHagar 8y ago
it's not like there's no hydrogen stations. :-) i mean there are 2 in california, and then i think no more on the west coast.