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Have you been faked?

73 points by wastemaster 8y ago

Semaphor 8y ago
Already hugged to death it seems: Error 502 Bad gateway edit: working again. So far I haven't been faked ;)
- wastemaster 8y ago
  yep needs some tuning // added some more resources to it
lawlessone 8y ago
was very worrried this was going to be like "haveibeenpwnd" glad to see it isn't
- wastemaster 8y ago
  haha well, I was looking at them too. I'm not a native speaker, so considered to use at least their name scheme haveibeenfaked.co or something. Fortunately chosen current option
jaclaz 8y ago
>You have probably seen https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ by Philip Wang. >But have you ever wondered if they made photos that look like you? Let's check! >We collected the huge dataset of 428526 fake generated photos and extracted their facial parameters with https://github.com/ageitgey/face_recognition https://github.com/ageitgey/face_recognition. Now you can match your image against fake faces and compare with the closest matches. Enjoy! Maybe it is just me, but how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? Having curious people uploading them to my website could be an easy way.
- yorwba 8y ago
  https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ only exists because someone already collected enough real photos of real persons to have a neural network learn their distribution well enough to generate new samples. Harvesting even more photos is not really necessary at this point, and in any case, scraping them off the web would be faster than creating a novelty website.
  - jaclaz 8y ago
    >Harvesting even more photos is not really necessary at this point, and in any case, scraping them off the web would be faster than creating a novelty website. But scraping them from the web says nothing about the source, even if you manage to remove all stock photos. This way it is IMHO more likely that it is a "real" photo, most probably uploaded by a "real" user and the site has also the IP of the sender. Morover, most photos you can find on the web have had their EXIF information removed by the host, maybe it is not the case for a casual user. As I see it scraping them off the web is good for quantity but not so much for quality, this (completely hypothetical) approach would give less quantity but IMHO better quality data.
    - C4stor 8y ago
      I definitely tried it with more junk images that I had in stock than real photos, so, there's that. There's moment where you need to know what face a computer would say resemble the most a sushi... So I'm not 100% sure about quality
  - deleted 8y ago
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- brlewis 8y ago
  >Maybe it is just me, but how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? Use APIs or scraping to collect profile photos from facebook, twitter, google, gravatar, etc. You'll get a lot of non-person photos, but havetheyfaked.me probably does too.
  - jaclaz 8y ago
    Yep, but as said above that would be "big data" with the need of de-duplicating them and with no additional (reliable) parameters. Then you will need some AI (or whatever) to remove non-human photos or non-suitable photos (position, lighting, etc.) whilst this method would almost guarantee only "portraits" or "upper torso" pictures of humans. What I tried to say wasn't that this is the "only" method, but that it is one of the "easy" ones with a high probability of getting "reliable" data.
- devb 8y ago
  > how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? I guess you could just steal them from Flickr? http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/millions-of-flickr-photos-were-scraped-to-train-facial-recognition-software/ http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/millions-of-flickr-photos-were...
- good_guy 8y ago
  You probably never heard of a site called Facebook.
- navane 8y ago
  Maybe all the images from thispersondoesnotexist.com are coming from havetheyfaked.me?
thatguyagain 8y ago
Where does my face end up when I submit it to this website?
- kacamak 8y ago
  On thispersondoesnotexist.com
- wastemaster 8y ago
  This is a good question. the thing is that except you photo I have to extract its vector of facial parameters to match fakes. So with this 128-dimentional vector I can find you on other photos (if I had some) All the pics and their vectors stay on this small server. if you want to be deleted please drop me a letter wastemaster@gmail.com
  - jstanley 8y ago
    Why don't you delete them all automatically as soon as you've finished processing them?
    - wastemaster 8y ago
      Already doing this! Cleaning up all the uploaded info in 3 minutes after upload!
  - plibither8 8y ago
    > All the pics and their vectors stay on this small server. This should be mentioned on the website. > if you want to be deleted please drop me a letter wastemaster@gmail.com There should be an easier mechanism to request a deletion of our photo. Better still, request permission from the user to store the photo in your servers before actually storing them. I think this is the bare minimum of transparency that should required before letting people upload personal data, especially in this day and age.
    - moreira 8y ago
gsich 8y ago
This needs to be open-sourced and self-hostable. (if it works, haven't uploaded anything)
aw4y 8y ago
not yet....but... :)
amelius 8y ago
Can this same algorithm be used to find doppelgängers?
- ddeck 8y ago
  There are plenty of sites for that: https://twinstrangers.net/ https://twinstrangers.net/ https://www.ilooklikeyou.com/ https://www.ilooklikeyou.com/ https://www.twinlets.com/ https://www.twinlets.com/ https://findmydoppelganger.net/ https://findmydoppelganger.net/ https://www.twinfinders.com/ https://www.twinfinders.com/ etc. Disclaimer: This the result of a "find my twin" search. I know nothing about the credibility of these sites.
w-m 8y ago
They haven't faked Matt Damon yet. Thank god! https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/ab60f524-6111-41a4-afef-211d2995b688/ https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/ab60f524-6111-41a4-afef-211d299...
- giancarlostoro 8y ago
  One of the similar faces has a kid that could be his illegitimate son though.
discobean 8y ago
So, anybody have the balls to upload their photo yet?
- Harvey-Specter 8y ago
  What do you imagine is going to happen if you upload your photo?
- jimijazz 8y ago
  I did, but the matches do not look like me.
- oppressedgf 8y ago
  Everyone's getting absolutely bloody terrified about uploading their photos... What do you think the creator's gonna do, drive to your house and kill you, knowing nothing but what you look like?
pgt 8y ago
This would be cool tech for finding single people you are attracted to based on a reference image.
- thatguyagain 8y ago
  This is a really cool idea
johnbatch 8y ago
What happened here? https://havetheyfaked.me/d/ed0949b5-7a05-4614-8b0e-267e4458a4e1/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/ed0949b5-7a05-4614-8b0e-267e4458a... Also I got told I matched with this https://havetheyfaked.me/d/c4662bf7-eb98-4c7f-a59d-6c96c9c1fe1d/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/c4662bf7-eb98-4c7f-a59d-6c96c9c1f...
- MayeulC 8y ago
  There seems to be plenty of less-than-pleasant outputs from this net. I had a couple of strange ones when I landed: [1][2]. If those were generated with GAN, the adversarial network could really use another training pass with examples like this (and if GANs are not used, there could be a simple network filtering the first net's output). [1]: https://havetheyfaked.me/d/539e20e9-560c-4a8d-a2ba-ca89e2c9ad5e/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/539e20e9-560c-4a8d-a2ba-ca89e2c9a... [2]: https://havetheyfaked.me/d/86526a1d-bbe7-4956-8bec-a7e64e082b2b/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/86526a1d-bbe7-4956-8bec-a7e64e082...
- smoyer 8y ago
  I hate to be the one to break the news to you but ... you are a zombie (it's the only way they'd match your photo to pictures of computer-generated undead).
- itronitron 8y ago
  They are trying to match photos to the top right expression on that page (the 2nd link)
deepstream 8y ago
I love this comment mood. Everyone losing it when some random small website asks people to upload their photo if they want to find out some random information. But everyone's cool with sharing constantly on FB, IG, uploading their photos and locations to massive companies, etc etc. The internet has reality distorted everyone's perspective. Orwell would be have something to say about it. Everyone loves Big Brother (FAANG etc) but distrusts each other. Divide and conquer much?
- nkrisc 8y ago
  I think you'll find an above average amount of people here who despise FAANG and haven't given them anything.
- Kye 8y ago
  There's no reason to assume people commenting here about risks use any of those sites and post their photos to them.
  - Yajirobe 8y ago
    There is no reason to assume that they don't.
    - aflag 8y ago
      There is. It would be inconsistent of them.
      - Crinus 8y ago
        And people generally tend to be inconsistent in what they say and what they do.
- lm28469 8y ago
  It's almost has if big companies were regulated but personal websites were not. > when some random small website It could be some random website. It could also be a 3 letters agency website training airport security face detection, a social engineering website, a random website storing images in a public s3 bucket. > The internet has reality distorted everyone's perspective. You give all your personal / biometric info when you get a new passport. If some rando guy were asking for your biometric data in a street would you give him ?
p2detar 8y ago
Well I'll be! It really works. [1] Joke aside, I really enjoy both of these projects. It's fascinating that you can put a story behind every "fake" face. 1 - https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/7b8ec517-c5a6-4e43-8bae-5be69eea183d/ https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/7b8ec517-c5a6-4e43-8bae-5be69ee...
kingkawn 8y ago
Am I the only one deeply disturbed by the emotional presence of these generated “people”?
- paradigmshiv 8y ago
  The teeth is what bothers me
- sergiotapia 8y ago
  I'm freaked out that literally non of these people exist - yet they're there. I can see them. Some eldritch shit yo.
deleted 8y ago
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wastemaster 8y ago
Got two gdpr complaints, so I added automated removal of uploaded photos and metadata extracted from those photos. Now photos and data are only stored for 3 minuites, then deleted (app artitecture requires server side processing of uploaded file and to compare results with your photo I have to store it - to be able to show) Also reflected information above on the website itself. Thank you for your interest to this project!
- accountwasmade 8y ago
  Well done. Does this apply to all images that have ever been uploaded to the website, or only to the ones uploaded after your update? If an user uploaded an image 2 hours ago, will their image be stored or has it been deleted already?
  - wastemaster 8y ago
    applies to every uploaded photo of this website, uploaded at any time
    - accountwasmade 8y ago
      Nice, thanks for implementing this
lkbm 8y ago
None of the matches looked a ton like me, imo, but I tried five photos of myself from 2011-2018 and a couple matches kept reoccurring -- not as top match, but in the top few, so that was interesting. I didn't trim my beard or mustache from 2009 - 2012, when I shaved it off entirely, and I didn't cut my hair from 1996 - 2017, so there's some good variation in these pictures.

73 points by wastemaster 8y ago

Semaphor 8y ago

Already hugged to death it seems: Error 502 Bad gateway edit: working again. So far I haven't been faked ;)

wastemaster 8y ago
yep needs some tuning // added some more resources to it

lawlessone 8y ago

was very worrried this was going to be like "haveibeenpwnd" glad to see it isn't

wastemaster 8y ago
haha well, I was looking at them too. I'm not a native speaker, so considered to use at least their name scheme haveibeenfaked.co or something. Fortunately chosen current option

jaclaz 8y ago

>You have probably seen https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ by Philip Wang. >But have you ever wondered if they made photos that look like you? Let's check! >We collected the huge dataset of 428526 fake generated photos and extracted their facial parameters with https://github.com/ageitgey/face_recognition https://github.com/ageitgey/face_recognition. Now you can match your image against fake faces and compare with the closest matches. Enjoy! Maybe it is just me, but how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? Having curious people uploading them to my website could be an easy way.

yorwba 8y ago
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ only exists because someone already collected enough real photos of real persons to have a neural network learn their distribution well enough to generate new samples. Harvesting even more photos is not really necessary at this point, and in any case, scraping them off the web would be faster than creating a novelty website.
- jaclaz 8y ago
  >Harvesting even more photos is not really necessary at this point, and in any case, scraping them off the web would be faster than creating a novelty website. But scraping them from the web says nothing about the source, even if you manage to remove all stock photos. This way it is IMHO more likely that it is a "real" photo, most probably uploaded by a "real" user and the site has also the IP of the sender. Morover, most photos you can find on the web have had their EXIF information removed by the host, maybe it is not the case for a casual user. As I see it scraping them off the web is good for quantity but not so much for quality, this (completely hypothetical) approach would give less quantity but IMHO better quality data.
  - C4stor 8y ago
    I definitely tried it with more junk images that I had in stock than real photos, so, there's that. There's moment where you need to know what face a computer would say resemble the most a sushi... So I'm not 100% sure about quality
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
brlewis 8y ago
>Maybe it is just me, but how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? Use APIs or scraping to collect profile photos from facebook, twitter, google, gravatar, etc. You'll get a lot of non-person photos, but havetheyfaked.me probably does too.
- jaclaz 8y ago
  Yep, but as said above that would be "big data" with the need of de-duplicating them and with no additional (reliable) parameters. Then you will need some AI (or whatever) to remove non-human photos or non-suitable photos (position, lighting, etc.) whilst this method would almost guarantee only "portraits" or "upper torso" pictures of humans. What I tried to say wasn't that this is the "only" method, but that it is one of the "easy" ones with a high probability of getting "reliable" data.
devb 8y ago
> how would I go if I wanted to harvest large numbers of "real" photos of "real" persons? I guess you could just steal them from Flickr? http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/millions-of-flickr-photos-were-scraped-to-train-facial-recognition-software/ http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/millions-of-flickr-photos-were...
good_guy 8y ago
You probably never heard of a site called Facebook.
navane 8y ago
Maybe all the images from thispersondoesnotexist.com are coming from havetheyfaked.me?

thatguyagain 8y ago

Where does my face end up when I submit it to this website?

kacamak 8y ago
On thispersondoesnotexist.com
wastemaster 8y ago
This is a good question. the thing is that except you photo I have to extract its vector of facial parameters to match fakes. So with this 128-dimentional vector I can find you on other photos (if I had some) All the pics and their vectors stay on this small server. if you want to be deleted please drop me a letter wastemaster@gmail.com
- jstanley 8y ago
  Why don't you delete them all automatically as soon as you've finished processing them?
  - wastemaster 8y ago
    Already doing this! Cleaning up all the uploaded info in 3 minutes after upload!
- plibither8 8y ago
  > All the pics and their vectors stay on this small server. This should be mentioned on the website. > if you want to be deleted please drop me a letter wastemaster@gmail.com There should be an easier mechanism to request a deletion of our photo. Better still, request permission from the user to store the photo in your servers before actually storing them. I think this is the bare minimum of transparency that should required before letting people upload personal data, especially in this day and age.
  - moreira 8y ago

gsich 8y ago

This needs to be open-sourced and self-hostable. (if it works, haven't uploaded anything)

aw4y 8y ago

not yet....but... :)

amelius 8y ago

Can this same algorithm be used to find doppelgängers?

ddeck 8y ago
There are plenty of sites for that: https://twinstrangers.net/ https://twinstrangers.net/ https://www.ilooklikeyou.com/ https://www.ilooklikeyou.com/ https://www.twinlets.com/ https://www.twinlets.com/ https://findmydoppelganger.net/ https://findmydoppelganger.net/ https://www.twinfinders.com/ https://www.twinfinders.com/ etc. Disclaimer: This the result of a "find my twin" search. I know nothing about the credibility of these sites.

w-m 8y ago

They haven't faked Matt Damon yet. Thank god! https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/ab60f524-6111-41a4-afef-211d2995b688/ https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/ab60f524-6111-41a4-afef-211d299...

giancarlostoro 8y ago
One of the similar faces has a kid that could be his illegitimate son though.

discobean 8y ago

So, anybody have the balls to upload their photo yet?

Harvey-Specter 8y ago
What do you imagine is going to happen if you upload your photo?
jimijazz 8y ago
I did, but the matches do not look like me.
oppressedgf 8y ago
Everyone's getting absolutely bloody terrified about uploading their photos... What do you think the creator's gonna do, drive to your house and kill you, knowing nothing but what you look like?

pgt 8y ago

This would be cool tech for finding single people you are attracted to based on a reference image.

thatguyagain 8y ago
This is a really cool idea

johnbatch 8y ago

What happened here? https://havetheyfaked.me/d/ed0949b5-7a05-4614-8b0e-267e4458a4e1/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/ed0949b5-7a05-4614-8b0e-267e4458a... Also I got told I matched with this https://havetheyfaked.me/d/c4662bf7-eb98-4c7f-a59d-6c96c9c1fe1d/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/c4662bf7-eb98-4c7f-a59d-6c96c9c1f...

MayeulC 8y ago
There seems to be plenty of less-than-pleasant outputs from this net. I had a couple of strange ones when I landed: [1][2]. If those were generated with GAN, the adversarial network could really use another training pass with examples like this (and if GANs are not used, there could be a simple network filtering the first net's output). [1]: https://havetheyfaked.me/d/539e20e9-560c-4a8d-a2ba-ca89e2c9ad5e/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/539e20e9-560c-4a8d-a2ba-ca89e2c9a... [2]: https://havetheyfaked.me/d/86526a1d-bbe7-4956-8bec-a7e64e082b2b/ https://havetheyfaked.me/d/86526a1d-bbe7-4956-8bec-a7e64e082...
smoyer 8y ago
I hate to be the one to break the news to you but ... you are a zombie (it's the only way they'd match your photo to pictures of computer-generated undead).
itronitron 8y ago
They are trying to match photos to the top right expression on that page (the 2nd link)

deepstream 8y ago

I love this comment mood. Everyone losing it when some random small website asks people to upload their photo if they want to find out some random information. But everyone's cool with sharing constantly on FB, IG, uploading their photos and locations to massive companies, etc etc. The internet has reality distorted everyone's perspective. Orwell would be have something to say about it. Everyone loves Big Brother (FAANG etc) but distrusts each other. Divide and conquer much?

nkrisc 8y ago
I think you'll find an above average amount of people here who despise FAANG and haven't given them anything.
Kye 8y ago
There's no reason to assume people commenting here about risks use any of those sites and post their photos to them.
- Yajirobe 8y ago
  There is no reason to assume that they don't.
  - aflag 8y ago
    There is. It would be inconsistent of them.
    - Crinus 8y ago
      And people generally tend to be inconsistent in what they say and what they do.
lm28469 8y ago
It's almost has if big companies were regulated but personal websites were not. > when some random small website It could be some random website. It could also be a 3 letters agency website training airport security face detection, a social engineering website, a random website storing images in a public s3 bucket. > The internet has reality distorted everyone's perspective. You give all your personal / biometric info when you get a new passport. If some rando guy were asking for your biometric data in a street would you give him ?

p2detar 8y ago

Well I'll be! It really works. [1] Joke aside, I really enjoy both of these projects. It's fascinating that you can put a story behind every "fake" face. 1 - https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/7b8ec517-c5a6-4e43-8bae-5be69eea183d/ https://havetheyfaked.me/u/f/7b8ec517-c5a6-4e43-8bae-5be69ee...

kingkawn 8y ago

Am I the only one deeply disturbed by the emotional presence of these generated “people”?

paradigmshiv 8y ago
The teeth is what bothers me
sergiotapia 8y ago
I'm freaked out that literally non of these people exist - yet they're there. I can see them. Some eldritch shit yo.

deleted 8y ago

[deleted]

wastemaster 8y ago

Got two gdpr complaints, so I added automated removal of uploaded photos and metadata extracted from those photos. Now photos and data are only stored for 3 minuites, then deleted (app artitecture requires server side processing of uploaded file and to compare results with your photo I have to store it - to be able to show) Also reflected information above on the website itself. Thank you for your interest to this project!

accountwasmade 8y ago
Well done. Does this apply to all images that have ever been uploaded to the website, or only to the ones uploaded after your update? If an user uploaded an image 2 hours ago, will their image be stored or has it been deleted already?
- wastemaster 8y ago
  applies to every uploaded photo of this website, uploaded at any time
  - accountwasmade 8y ago
    Nice, thanks for implementing this

lkbm 8y ago

None of the matches looked a ton like me, imo, but I tried five photos of myself from 2011-2018 and a couple matches kept reoccurring -- not as top match, but in the top few, so that was interesting. I didn't trim my beard or mustache from 2009 - 2012, when I shaved it off entirely, and I didn't cut my hair from 1996 - 2017, so there's some good variation in these pictures.