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>>Maternity/Paternity leave is the norm all over Europe and it works. It doesn't really work that well. Young women face blatant discrimination in hiring and s

>>Maternity/Paternity leave is the norm all over Europe and it works. It doesn't really work that well. Young women face blatant discrimination in hiring and small employers and sadly it's for good reasons as here a lot of women go on medical 2months into pregnancy and then take the full leave. >>. If you had a daughter perhaps you would realise that "not giving a job to a young woman because she may decide to get pregnant" is pretty much the worst reason to refuse someone employment, regardless of the law, you are happy to discriminate against a person just because of their genitalia. That's a sad state of affairs for you, your company and your family. I hear your moral outrage but I put well-being of my family first. I prefer to be sexists if my children don't need to worry about food and good school than being gender neutral and worrying about how I am going to pay for a good school or for the treatment if they get sick.

celticninja 8y ago
Yet you call out others for sexist behaviour and then behave that way yourself.
- bluecalm 8y ago
  That's the problem. The laws are set in a way that I am either sexist or put my children well being below someone's else. The incentives are there to be sexists maybe let's think how to set them right.
  - celticninja 8y ago
    You are wondering how you put your children through a private (paid for) school, whilst the employee might be wondering about feeding and accomodating theirs. Your children's well being is at a much higher level than those of your employees I am sure. How do you propose to make it right? You already flout the existing laws, it's not like you would voluntarily enact something. So your proposition is to what? Get rid of maternity/paternity leave laws entirely? Make it fair by not letting anyone have parental leave?
    - Dylan16807 8y ago
      We could always make leave mandatory for both parents.
fzeroracer 8y ago
You're so close to coming to the grand realization of why parental leave and such works in European countries. It's because they have a much stronger safety net. If your children get sick or if they need to go to college, it is significantly cheaper and less stressful. It's a shame that your thoughts seem to be mirred in sexism though since you fear women having kids and ruining your business by taking time off.

celticninja 8y ago

Yet you call out others for sexist behaviour and then behave that way yourself.

bluecalm 8y ago
That's the problem. The laws are set in a way that I am either sexist or put my children well being below someone's else. The incentives are there to be sexists maybe let's think how to set them right.
- celticninja 8y ago
  You are wondering how you put your children through a private (paid for) school, whilst the employee might be wondering about feeding and accomodating theirs. Your children's well being is at a much higher level than those of your employees I am sure. How do you propose to make it right? You already flout the existing laws, it's not like you would voluntarily enact something. So your proposition is to what? Get rid of maternity/paternity leave laws entirely? Make it fair by not letting anyone have parental leave?
  - Dylan16807 8y ago
    We could always make leave mandatory for both parents.

fzeroracer 8y ago

You're so close to coming to the grand realization of why parental leave and such works in European countries. It's because they have a much stronger safety net. If your children get sick or if they need to go to college, it is significantly cheaper and less stressful. It's a shame that your thoughts seem to be mirred in sexism though since you fear women having kids and ruining your business by taking time off.