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On a bit of a tangential note: I am really not a fan of using the term "poaching" for this. The engineer is not a piece of property, and it is certainly not an

by kop316 8y ago

On a bit of a tangential note: I am really not a fan of using the term "poaching" for this. The engineer is not a piece of property, and it is certainly not an illegal or immoral act. Employees are allowed to leave for a different job (Interestingly the headline is the only place that term is used, they use "hire" in the article and in the HTML Header).

dekhn 8y ago
employee poaching is a legal term with a long historical precedent.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  The expression might have precedent but it does express a notion of property and dehumanizes the employee, as if he's a product without free will.
  - dekhn 8y ago
    I gave this some thought and I can't really see this as a reasonable statement.
    - kop316 8y ago
      ....care to elaborate? I think its perfectly reasonable
BossingAround 8y ago
> Interestingly the headline is the only place that term is used, they use "hire" in the article and in the HTML Header Clickbait headlines--whatever arouses any emotion in you (e.g. anger, sadness, curiosity, love, ...) will make them more money. Of course, I agree with you. I'd expect better from the 9to5 family...
kevin_b_er 8y ago
That is not how our society operations. The workers are property under how it works. As the corporation is a manifested creature of immoral and sociopathic greed, only barely constrained by the will of the people with the constraints being actively targeted by a major political faction, the employee is mostly property. As one sided employment agreements that only place liabilities upon the employee continue to grow, you will become more aware of this truth as time goes on.
brudgers 8y ago
When it comes to Apple and Google (and Silicon Valley in general) "poaching" has some historical precedent. http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/ http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/
blueboo 8y ago
Top tech companies go to great lengths to obscure key technical contributors to projects. Engineers are not property, no. But the information around their value-add is, at the very least, an obscured secret! Therefore it is newsworthy when a competitor decodes that value and offers a package that acknowledges that value.

by kop316 8y ago

dekhn 8y ago

employee poaching is a legal term with a long historical precedent.

geezerjay 8y ago
The expression might have precedent but it does express a notion of property and dehumanizes the employee, as if he's a product without free will.
- dekhn 8y ago
  I gave this some thought and I can't really see this as a reasonable statement.
  - kop316 8y ago
    ....care to elaborate? I think its perfectly reasonable

BossingAround 8y ago

> Interestingly the headline is the only place that term is used, they use "hire" in the article and in the HTML Header Clickbait headlines--whatever arouses any emotion in you (e.g. anger, sadness, curiosity, love, ...) will make them more money. Of course, I agree with you. I'd expect better from the 9to5 family...

kevin_b_er 8y ago

That is not how our society operations. The workers are property under how it works. As the corporation is a manifested creature of immoral and sociopathic greed, only barely constrained by the will of the people with the constraints being actively targeted by a major political faction, the employee is mostly property. As one sided employment agreements that only place liabilities upon the employee continue to grow, you will become more aware of this truth as time goes on.

brudgers 8y ago

When it comes to Apple and Google (and Silicon Valley in general) "poaching" has some historical precedent. http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/ http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/

blueboo 8y ago

Top tech companies go to great lengths to obscure key technical contributors to projects. Engineers are not property, no. But the information around their value-add is, at the very least, an obscured secret! Therefore it is newsworthy when a competitor decodes that value and offers a package that acknowledges that value.