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I have magnets implanted in my hands
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- CyberborgHuman 8y agoThere are a couple of sources of implant grade magnet, such as steve haworth and https://cyberise.me/transhumanme/37-sense52.html https://cyberise.me/transhumanme/37-sense52.html
- nickthegreek 8y agoI’ve had several procedures done by Steve and recommend him for anyone else looking to get this sort of work done. He is a professional and pioneer in this field. I have one of the earlier generations of these magnets implanted and everyone needs to understand the risks. Mine has lost its charge and I hope that it isn’t due to a leak in the silicone and that it isn’t being devoured by my body. It’s probably been pushing a decade now and I am passively looking for someone to remove this implant as well as a rejecting transdermal. If you do get any of these body mods done, realize that many aren’t going to be forever and you will need to have a removal plan.
- gregimba 8y agoIn all horrible honesty is self removal with a localized anesthetic not an option? for a subdermal implant it's not as deep as one might think. Once you overcome the initial pain you should be able to remove one yourself. (this is not medical advice and I could be horribly wrong)
- grawprog 8y agoSure...I imagine it's an option. I know someone who digs moles out with a pocket knife and a bottle of isopropynol. Lots of things are options. Doesn't mean they're all good ones.
- newnewpdro 8y agoYour acquaintance may like to know common 3% hydrogen peroxide can be used to great effect for oxidizing moles and warts off. It just takes some time, but persistent application eventually destroys the organic flesh and conveniently leaves a chemically cauterized surface behind.
- grawprog 8y agoI think it's for the 'it makes him feel manly reasons' mostly. I'm not sure oxidizing it off slowly with hydrogen peroxide would have the same effect as cutting into his own flesh and cleansing the wound with searing alcohol does.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoSounds like self-harm more than anything. I hope your friend is OK.
- squirrelicus 8y agoIt's all about risk (and liability)
- benj111 8y agoEvery barbershop should be able to do this. Get your beard trimmed at the same time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_surgeon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_surgeon
- dfischer 8y agoI'm all down for getting implants, but doesn't seem like the pros outweigh the cons yet :P
- TACIXAT 8y agoI had one in my left ring finger for a while. It was neat, totally impractical, and way too sensitive to touch. I could feel EM fields. This might be really useful if you work with electricity, but as a developer, it was only every so often that I noticed something. It lost a lot of its power to pick up small stuff after a while. The procedure wasn't painful because the person I went to had some numbing agent that I'm almost certain they weren't supposed to have (by saying this I can't say where I got it done so the body mod artist doesn't get in trouble). I opted for super glue instead of a stitch which also helps in the pain department. The biggest drawback, as someone who is active, was how sensitive it was to touch. You basically have a hard lump right under some thin skin. I would end up doing push ups with that finger off the ground for a couple of years. If you banged it, it hurt like hell. I got mine removed and my girlfriend got one put in. She got hers removed a few years later. The coating on hers did end up breaking and her skin got a bit discolored where it was.
- gumby 8y agoBy the way be very careful with the injection of novocaine etc into fingers. The proper application of a ring block is tricky, and if you get it wrong (which is easy to do) you can end up with necrosis -> loss of the digit. It's due to the cramped anatomy of the digits; other regions (apart from the head) are much easier. All that being said I've long been interested in trying this.
- modulated 8y agoInjections of local anaesthetics into end arteries like fingers are only dangerous if the formulation contains a vasoconstrictor (adrenalin/epinephrine) in addition to the anaesthetic agent.
- gumby 8y agoWhich almost all injectable will as it's a potentiator and improves locality of effect.
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- LeoPanthera 8y agoI always wondered why you can't do this topically. Perhaps a magnet in some kind of elastic band around your finger? Or even glue a magnet to your fingernail? Surely it's not necessary to put one inside you.
- squirrelicus 8y agoI think you're missing some of the point. Enthusiasts for this kind of thing are the same kind of people that inexplicably embed metal objects into their face just to feel different.
- honkycat 8y agoBody modding has been around for thousands of years in various cultures. It's just something weird humans enjoy doing. What is wrong with wanting to look different? What makes you so great that you can judge people?
- zrobotics 8y agoWhat about the parent was judgemental? I've had friends that were into body nodding, and they very proudly described themselves as wierd. That is one of the big draws, the unusual factor. Reading the parent, I see no reason to accuse them of being judgemental.
- hombre_fatal 8y agoIt reads as obviously condescending to me, including the word "inexplicably" only to provide their own explanation. > I see no reason to accuse them of being judgemental. Note that phrasing can be condescending regardless of the author's intention.
- explainplease 8y agoAll this talk of being understanding and non-judgmental, but here you are, passing judgment on his words without caring to understand his intention. More concerned about how you think he ought to have said it than what he actually meant. This is the way to destroy open and honest communication in society. Passive-aggressiveness and silent grudges, everywhere. And who made you the judge of condescension, anyway? How condescending is that. Hypocrisy.
- aeharding 8y agoI've had a programmable NFC tag embedded in my right hand, between my thumb and pointer finger for the last 5+ years. I forget about it for a month or so sometimes. It's neat, I guess, for storing a small amount of text information (bitcoin private key, stuff like that). Can read with any NFC capable phone.
- sjroot 8y agoDo you worry about the security implications of this? If you storing something sensitive like a private key, I mean.
- schwartzworld 8y agoA private key is only valuable if the person knows what the key is for and how to use it. Stealing a random looking string off an RFID can't be that valuable unless it's a very targeted attack.
- aeharding 8y agoIt's not any amount of bitcoin I'd miss. Just kind of for fun. I guess I could encrypt it with some passphrase that's easy to remember, but I haven't bothered. Honestly I'd be impressed if someone retrieved the bitcoin.
- majewsky 8y agoIt would be fun to implant the functional parts of a contactless credit card into one's palm, then freak out cashiers with your supposed force power. :)
- cf141q5325 8y agoSomeone did that with his bus ticket. https://gizmodo.com/australian-biohacker-who-implanted-transit-pass-in-his-1823832689 https://gizmodo.com/australian-biohacker-who-implanted-trans...
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- cypherpunks01 8y agoCan I just buy a magnetic ring somewhere, giving all the same benefits but without the downsides of surgery? Still sense EM fields but without pain, infection risk, can still get MRIs etc.
- senectus1 8y agonot really. the sensitivity of magnets under the skin in contact with nerve endings is an order of magnitude more powerful.
- michaelmrose 8y agoWhat about something that conducts vibration + an exterior device?
- jpindar 8y agoI've tried taping a Zen Magnet to my finger, and while I'm sure it's nothing like having an implant, it was mildly amusing. For a few minutes.
- TheGrumpyBrit 8y agoI wonder if a piercing would be a suitable hybrid, giving additional sensitivity while still being removable. If detecting EM fields is the goal, I'm not sure there's much advantage to using a finger as the location.
- shakna 8y agoI have several magnetic rings. Nowhere near the sensitivity of an implant, but still has the usefulness of grabbing things and so on, with the added benefit of removal at security checkpoints.
- foreigner 8y agoSuper glue a tiny powerful magnet to your fingernail.
- conjectures 8y ago
- RickJWagner 8y agoHave you ever met someone else who had this done? Was there an attraction?
- zapzupnz 8y ago(rimshot) But to the actual question of anybody actually getting this done, I still don't see the reason why. Yes, these things can be done; but for what purpose? Like, is there a professional advantage?
- GuB-42 8y agoI don't know how sensitive these things are but in theory, they can be used to feel the amount of current going through a wire, something, I guess, could be useful to electricians.
- forthispurpose 8y ago> I’ve seen quite a few large and intrusive biohacking experiments, which I personally wouldn’t touch with a 10ft pole. I wonder what are those
- taneq 8y agoWell, these guys have implanted LEDs and other electronics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindhouse_Wetware https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindhouse_Wetware
- anitil 8y agoCody's Lab did this as well. He ended up removing it, though I believe a small fragment was left behind. Struggling to find the videos, best I could do was : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-ylHmM2zLNQfaCIDYKKG3PVKcoIwyWv6 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-ylHmM2zLNQfaCIDYKKG...
- Hextinium 8y agoCody took down that video and a lot of his other ones when YouTube got really trigger happy about flagging explosive context or anything vaguely not advertising friendly due to King of Random. That was one of the videos he took down but he did mention it in others. I cant find the video where he talked about the video takedowns sadly.
- jstanley 8y agoIt's sad that YouTube has got to the point where people feel the need to self-censor totally inoffensive videos. We desperately need something better than YouTube.
- davman 8y agoI guess the question is, what is it about current YouTube alternatives that don't cut it, apart from the userbase being smaller.
- macleodan 8y agoPeerTube is a decentralised alternative which uses ActivityPub and can federate with Mastodon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube
- anitil 8y agoOh thanks, that explains it!
- notananthem 8y agoHahaha this is so stupid
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- Haga 8y agoOriginal title: A series of unfortunate accidents with genital piercings.
- onetimemanytime 8y agomy site coming soon iDrinkAntiFree.ze . Don't see any positive of doing this magnet thing...other than negatives. Known and unknown
- rurounijones 8y agoInstead of large magnets wouldn't it make more sense to have lots of little ones? I am thinking something like magnetic tattoo ink. It would remove the touch/blockiness issues and be touching many more nerves.
- otherme123 8y agoYour immune system would try to collect and excrete all of them. This happens to tattoos. Soon your magnets would be allocated in your lymph nodes.
- MnMWiz 8y agoWould that be such a bad thing, assuming the magnets aren't toxic? Full body EM detection possibly.
- mlang23 8y agoBiohackers give me the creeps. I remember this one big failure story of a women that spoke at a CCC event a few years ago. The magnet she implanted into her finger dissolved in her and they had a pretty hard time pulling out the individual bits. I cant get rid of the feeling that these people have read too much scifi.
- beaconstudios 8y agobiohacking definitely has a tinge of "DIY cyberpunk" to it. I find the area interesting, but my concern is that the mods they do right now aren't actually useful, and the surgical aspect is totally unnecessary. This leads me to think that magnet/RFID implants are more about in-group signalling (about being a hardcore hacker or being into cyberpunk or transhumanism) than they are about enhancing your abilities.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoMeh, I wouldn't get something like this done myself but fair play to the people advancing the art. It's their bodies after all. Piercings and tattoos were also pretty primitive for the longest time (not that I have any of those either, but I certainly appreciate the more creative ones).
- beaconstudios 8y agooh yeah, I wouldn't want to stop them; some of my friends have these implants. I just think it's a little odd because I lean transhumanist myself but the current implants don't seem to be very useful, hence my suggestion that they might be social signals instead. Don't mistake my analysis for wanting them not to do it.
- nkrisc 8y agoI always thought "bio-hacking" was a pretty grandiose term for shoving a magnet under your skin. As far as I'm concerned, "bio-hacking" occurs every day as doctors prescribe medicine or repair and enhance broken bodies.
- walrus01 8y agoIn my opinion the actual practical uses for a magnet implant are near nil, while the risks of needing an MRI scan someday in the future are very real. You might even be severely injured and unconscious when sent for an MRI, and medical professionals could very easily miss the implant. That would not end well.
- wodenokoto 8y agoI was surprised to read that the magnets weaken over time. I honestly thought permanent where really permanent, but according to a google search: > Neodymium magnets are the strongest and most permanent magnets known to man. If they are not overheated or physically damaged, neodymium magnets will lose less than 1% of their strength over 10 years - not enough for you to notice unless you have very sensitive measuring equipment.[1] So while they apparently do degrade, it still makes me wonder what these people are doing to markedly reduce the power of their magnets considerably over just a few year. [1] K&J Magnetics - FAQ https://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp https://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp
- Faaak 8y agoAs a parallel question: does that mean that permanent magnet motors degrade their performance over time ?
- raxxorrax 8y agoTo a negligible amount in my experience. Many electrical motors have an official shelf-life of around 10 years, due to other factors. If the magnet is treated correctly, it wouldn't loose much strength, maybe 1-2%. Some magnets lose strength from concussions and higher temperatures. A very strong magnetic field can also damage the magnet. That said, motors with permanent magnets have quite good performance properties and are pretty energy efficient. And if your magnet fails, you can always revitalize it with an external magnetic field.
- eutectic 8y agoProbably exposing them to strong magnetic fields.
- vinceguidry 8y agoMakes sense when you think about it. The property of magnetism is caused by the alignment of the atoms in the material. Surely this ordering is as subject to entropy as all other order. But the speed at which people are reporting their magnets losing strength makes me think they're either using low-quality magnets, or their brains getting used to the sensations and tuning them out. I think if mammals had an evolutionary purpose for sensing magnetic fields, they'd already have methods for doing so. From recollection I think dolphins have this trait and use it to navigate.
- foreigner 8y agoWhy not just super-glue the magnet to your fingernail? Almost all the benefits, almost none of the risks.
- mombul 8y agoEvery answer is worse than the previous one. It seems like a burden more than anything else.
- opportune 8y agoevery one of my friends who implanted neodymium magnets had it rejected at some point within 5 years of implantation
- feluso 8y agoPretty sad to hear they degrade so fast over time, the possibility of sensing electromagnetic fields just sounds so fun to me, like adding another layer to the human senses
- charlottedann 8y agoSite creator here - just added a few extra FAQs to elaborate on some of these comments