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Which countries are on the right track, according to their citizens
- lfnoise 8y agoChart unreadable for red/green color blind.
- avaku 8y agoI’m one such person. There is still a line in the middle, so it’s ok.
- politelemon 8y agoI was wondering about how representative this is of the populations. The link to the survey is broken but I did find this on the Ipos Mori site: https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/what-worries-world-september-2018-0 https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/what-worries-world-se... > The remaining 11 countries surveyed: Brazil, Chile, China, India, Malaysia, Mexico, Russia, Peru, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and Turkey have lower levels of internet penetration and so these samples should instead be considered to represent a more affluent, connected population I would extend that consideration to most of the countries shown in the results.
- Cyclone_ 8y agoPeople's perception isn't necessarily an indicator of how well things are going..
- freddie_mercury 8y agoSo? No one said it was. Why make up a strawman just to reply? We could come up with a long list of other things that also weren't claimed and rebut those as well but I don't really see how it helps advance the discussion.
- ciguy 8y agoNo surprise that countries with the most oppressive internet surveillance and censorship also rank highly in self reported satisfaction. Chinese citizens probably got a boost to their social credit score for answering positively on this survey. I was just in Beijing and Shanghai for a few weeks and almost everyone I talked to in private admitted that they expect an economic crash in the near future. So this survey is essentially useless for countries where privacy on the internet is not expected and dissent is punished.
- shanghaiaway 8y agoBeing a tourist is far from being an authority on a culture
- ciguy 8y agoWhen did I ever claim to be an authority on anything? I'm making the observation that citizens who know they're being surveilled online are unlikely to respond to this type of poll negatively, affecting the accuracy of the results. I threw an interesting personal anecdote in there as an example but at no time did I make an authority claim. So I don't know what your point is.
- zachguo 8y agoHe/she is trying to point out your hasty assumption that Chinese people share the same societal and cultural values as you. In reality they may not care much about surveillance and censorship at all.
- pseudalopex 8y agoWhether someone likes surveillance is one question. Whether it discourages them from expressing certain opinions is another.
- ciguy 8y agoWhen did I ever say that the Chinese cared about censorship or surveillance? I know you think you're culturally enlightened by bringing up this tired argument. You're not. Anyone who's been to China knows that the average person in China doesn't particularly care about privacy, we're not arguing that here. What I'm saying is that regardless of whether someone cars about it, it does affect their behavior.
- tuukkah 8y agoThere are newer results from September here: https://www.ipsos.com/en/what-worries-world-september-2018 https://www.ipsos.com/en/what-worries-world-september-2018
- dang 8y agoOK, we changed to that from https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/which-countries-are-on-the-right-track-according-to-their-citizens/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/which-countries-are-o.... Thanks!
- Jolter 8y agoSee Daureg' reply below for November numbers.
- daureg 8y agoseems it's updated quite regularly https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/what-worries-the-world-dec-2018 https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/what-worries-the-worl... (and that the yellow vest movement didn't improve France optimis :D )
- buboard 8y agoPolls like this are not useful for anything. They are, at best, measuring the temperament of the citizens of a country, and some of them will be overly negative or positive about anything. It would be interesting if pollsters attempted to "correct for temperament"
- lolc 8y ago> online survey Is it representative in some way? > Data are weighted to match the profile of the population. No, just the opposite.
- thejohnconway 8y agoWeighting is done to make the sample more representative, because voluntary samples are always demographically biased. You can argue that the way they weight is wrong in some way, but it’s purpose is exactly to address representativeness of the survey.
- lolc 8y agoWhen the lone 80-year old that participated is weighted against the hundreds 20-year olds (I'm exaggerating, I hope) we still don't know whether her opinion is representative for the other 80-year olds that didn't respond. There is no point of weighing her more than a 20-year old. My glib comment was about the fact that before weighing, I could have at least attempted to imagine who would typically respond to such an online-survey. It's a biased sample. But it's a sample. I could say: Well at least this many people out of the whole population answered this or that way. Once weighing mixes things up I don't even know how people responded anymore.
- FrankDixon 8y ago> „[this study] finds X“ without actual details on its methodology, a study doesn‘t find anything. - how are the surveyed chosen? - how do you make sure they are from the country they claim - what possible answers can they chose from - etc.
- Farradfahren 8y agoWell the local aristocracy, hires some aristocratic researchers - who send their students, who venture out onto the campus to question other young members of the aristocracy. The real populations thought are only revealed ocassionaly in studies called "elections" in democracies, and most of the times consists of attempts to shake of the local aristocracy in a wild rodeo if they think the countrie is heading into the wrong direction. Seeing that most of the western world is currently in such a wild rodeo motions- you can get great percentages of the plebejans and aristocrats - state in sync that there country is on the wrong track.
- hliyan 8y agoSome methodology in PDF (https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-10/www-september-2018.pdf https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/...) The survey is conducted monthly in 28 countries around the world via the Ipsos Online Panel system. The countries included are Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Great Britain, Germany, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Turkey and the United States of America. An international sample of 20,787 adults aged 18-64 in Canada, Israel and the US, and aged 16-64 in all other countries, were interviewed between August 24th 2018 and September 7th 2018. Approximately 1000+ individuals participated on a country by country basis via the Ipsos Online Panel with the exception of Argentina, Belgium, Hungary, India, Israel, Mexico, Peru, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, Sweden and Turkey, where each have a sample of approximately 500+.
- the_mitsuhiko 8y agoThe US results are strange. A lot fewer worry about healthcare and inequality/poverty than you would expect. In fact only Sweden worries less about the latter.
- yostrovs 8y agoHow many would you expect to worry? In a rich country with ample jobs and cheap food,I don't worry about it much either. I've seen poverty abroad, so maybe I just don't see what Americans call poverty as poverty.
- the_mitsuhiko 8y agoI expect more than half to worry given the number of children in food insecure households, the lack of retirement savings many americans are confronted with. You might have seem poverty abroad but there are plenty of countries on this list that worry more (like Germany) which much better working conditions for the vast majority of people with little income.
- yostrovs 8y agoYou're equating "food insecure households" and "lack of retirement savings" with poverty. In America, the supposedly impoverished, the "food insecure", are more often obese than not and their retirement, though boring and doesn't involve golf courses and biannual vacations, doesn't involve starvation, lack of electricity, television, heating and air conditioning, and other essentials. Open up any book from 100 years ago on household maintenance, written usually for upper and upper middle class women. There you will learn that the laundry in the apartment building is an incredible luxury, as is the store down the street, and the fact that you can buy a loaf of bread there for about $1.50.
- the_mitsuhiko 8y agoThe statistics speak for themselves. If you want to argue them away you are just further telling me that Americans are indeed more likely than not blind to those issues when surveyed compared to (some) other countries.
- erikstarck 8y agoThe note about Sweden seems a bit off. It is now January and we still don't have a government formed since the election in September. The politicians have all showed their worst sides in not getting along and the trust in them has plummeted. At the same time there are clear signs of a recession coming. Things are as gloomy as a Bergman-movie in Sweden. Sort of.
- Jolter 8y agoRemember, these were the numbers from September, just after the election. Lots of people would still have their hopes up then.
- mathieubordere 8y agoWhat worries me is that global warming is not one of the five major worries. Of course I understand that when you're unemployed, struggling to make ends meet, global warming is the least of your concerns.
- zachguo 8y agoTake a look at the updated 2018 version.
- wilhil 8y ago"upon interviewing the locals, it turns out the winner is North Korea with 160% of residents saying they have full confidence in the leadership"
- throwaway190113 8y agoParent makes the point glibly, but it is very serious. I have considerable experience talking to people from one of the top places mentioned and the freedom to answer a survey is far from guaranteed. To give you an idea of the scale of this (these are real, actual and exact numbers): In that country (which I'll name as Northern East Soumania, a small autonomous island belonging to an African republic, or a similar African country) the President recently put in a bid to be able to stay President for life. This required constitutional changes, which were passed by the annual sitting of parliament. The vote on this bid was 2,859 votes supporting lifting the term limit, 2 votes against lifting the term limit and 4 abstaining. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine an American president at the end of their second term wanting to lift the term limit congressionally and out of 535 members of congress (435 in the house of representatives and 100 in the senate) 530 voting to remove the term limits, 2 voting against and 4 abstaining? (Actually since the basis is 535 instead of 2,859, I should divide the against and abstaining voted by 5.5) I would personally not be surprised if the 2 "against" votes had serious consequences for their personal life, I mean things like not being able to travel and so forth. (Despite being members of parliament in that country.) If I were a member of that country, I probably wouldn't feel free to say in a survey that the country was not headed in the right direction.
- pergadad 8y agoSeems this reflects to a large degree societal values and current debates rather than the"real" impact. Eg US has a lot bigger inequality and higher proportion of destitute people than most of Western/Northern Europe, so the only way to explain the German & Swedish vs US numbers would be by pointing to the values/expectations and ongoing discourse. China... You have got to wonder is it that the past was so bad? That people aren't aware of how bad problems of eg corruption are? Or are they too scared to say their true opinion ..?
- bognition 8y ago> China... You have got to wonder is it that the past was so bad? That people aren't aware of how bad problems of eg corruption are? Or are they too scared to say their true opinion ..? I imagine it's more about the citizens feeling like the government and its leaders have a strong vision and mission for the future of china. I think the same thing can be seen with the M.A.G.A. movement. Lots of people are ignoring problems they face on a daily basis and vote against their interests because they'd rather believe in an ideal that is bigger than themselves (even if that ideal is a farce).
- SamReidHughes 8y agoThe reason people broke for Trump was because he actually represented their interests, unlike the Democrats or the GOP. The problems of crime, illegal immigrants competing for jobs, and trade with poor countries, all drive down the quality of life of the working class American.
- DevX101 8y agoChina has lifted 500 million people out of poverty in a generation. They're absolutely going in the net right direction, even accounting for corruption.
- marcosdumay 8y agoAs a Brazilian, the one thing that gives me some confidence that things will get better is the low confidence people display on those studies.
- yzb 8y agoYou had a radical change of government recently, so I guess it's a matter of time to see if people like it or not.
- Jolter 8y agoAlready in the November study, Brazil's confidence is up 22 percentage points, so yes things are happening. My confidence in Brazil has taken a dive, but I'm not voting there... https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-12/what_worries_the_world_us_dec2018.pdf https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/...