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Wait till they hit college. then you become the alarm clock. (Today, got up at 0500 Pacific to provide back-up alarm for kid on east coast with final).
by dbcurtis 8y ago
Wait till they hit college. then you become the alarm clock. (Today, got up at 0500 Pacific to provide back-up alarm for kid on east coast with final).
- lordCarbonFiber 8y agolol wut. In what world does your adult offspring need a call from home to show up for an obligation? Do you plan on early morning wake up calls every day of their career as well (because you should probably automate that).
- ntumlin 8y agoThis is common, or at least, I've definitely had my parents do this for me, and I know my friends have too. The logic is as follows: I need to be up early, my parents always get up early, and my alarm almost always works. If I have both to wake me up, there's a good chance I won't accidentally sleep in.
- sys_64738 8y agoThis is rewarding bad behavior. The offspring should be conditioned to awaken themselves by having an unpleasant experience occur when they don't awaken when expected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
- wgerard 8y agoMissing a final could easily be a life-altering event, so I don't think it really makes sense in this case. As long as it's a rare occurrence, I don't really see the problem here.
- garmaine 8y agoThat's a really inefficient way to train good behavior.
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- kulahan 8y agoPunishment has never been an efficient way of changing behavior. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/feeling-our-way/201401/punishment-doesnt-work https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/feeling-our-way/2014... Nobody wants to avoid the behavior when punishment is introduced, they want to avoid the punishment itself. Typically speaking, this is done by circumventing the punishment, rather than correcting the behavior. Besides, (almost) nobody purposely sleeps through their final - especially not if they take the time to ask someone to be a backup alarm. You'd be advocating for punishment of an accident at that point, which is aggressively useless at best, and sadistic at worst.
- krageon 8y agoI'm pretty sure the consensus is that positive reinforcement, when used consistently and over a long time, can be used without any negative reinforcement and still get the requisite training results. That's leaving aside the fact that negative reinforcement is bad for the relationship with your child and/or pet. Completely on this subject though, I find the behaviour in question here insane. Mostly because adults are supposed to be independent and competent. Of course, not everyone is raised equally. If this works for them, who are we to judge?
- EADGBE 8y agoThe offspring wakes up at the time determined or else the offspring gets the hose again.
- zaccus 8y agoEveryone gets the logic. It's still pathetic.
- beatgammit 8y agoJust go to bed earlier? I recently decided to wake up earlier (have kids, wanted an hour or so to myself before they woke up), so I started going to get earlier. Instead of an alarm in the morning, I have an alarm at night so I remember to go to bed on time. For something as important as a final, you should be getting a full night's rest. It's just not worth whatever little you can cram in the night before.
- ReptileMan 8y agoHaving a physical being call you before important event is absolutely sane. And I give explicit instructions - do not hang up until you hear me in the shower
- beatgammit 8y agoIf something is that important, I schedule something just before. E.g. for a final, I'll schedule an hour of study right before and go to bed early. That way if I'm late to that first thing in the morning, I still make the important event. The only time I asked someone to wake me up was for an early morning (started at 7 or something) class I took with my roommate. We went together, so we agreed that we'd both make sure the other was up. After that semester, I never signed up for an early morning class again (but I did okay in the class though!).
- sbjustin 8y agoI'm not saying that's not admirable but shouldn't your adult child have this figured out by now?
- lukebitts 8y agoI don't think it is the norm to have your stuff figured out by the time you reach college
- bendotero 8y agoStuff figured out = waking up on time for an exam? There are certainly things that aren't going to be figured out by college but dang, you're setting the bar madd low.
- beatgammit 8y agoYeah, I missed my 8am class a few times, but I never missed a final.
- badpun 8y agoIt's figuring out how not to oversleep for an important occasion, not figuring out the meaning of life... I mean, some people this age are working responsible jobs or serving in the military.
- anoncake 8y agoSwallowing your pride and asking your parent (or someone else) for help is a pretty adult thing to do.
- kulahan 8y agoYou've never accidentally slept through an alarm before? Why not have a backup plan just to be extra sure? That sounds perfectly responsible to me.
- njarboe 8y agoSure, but your backup plan probably should not involve one of your parents getting up extra early to give you a wake up call. But to each their own, I guess.