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I firmly believe that had Niantic been allowed to mimic the traditional Pokemon PvP, it would have been an even greater success. The core gameplay of the Ninte

I firmly believe that had Niantic been allowed to mimic the traditional Pokemon PvP, it would have been an even greater success. The core gameplay of the Nintendo games wasn't terribly complex, but had tons of replayability.

travisr 8y ago
What do you mean by "allowed"?
- TotempaaltJ 8y ago
  From what I understand, their contract with Nintendo (or whoever) explicitly dissolve disallowed it.
  - wokwokwok 8y ago
    That’s an odd assertion, given PvP battles are now live. Do you have anything to back it up? My understanding was that they just have a small team and aren’t very good (ie. brave enough) at making changes beyond ‘text fixes’
    - oregontechninja 8y ago
      He's saying traditional as in a turn based strategy game like the core series (like Red and Blue). Many of the long time fans were turned away by lack of strategy.
      - anoncoward111 8y ago
        Not only was the button mashing (and lag) extremely offputting, the worst feeling in the world was beating a level 6 gym by yourself and then someone puts their pokemon in before yours. I rage uninstalled pokemon go after that and my data bill has been rational ever since :)
chc4 8y ago
They added (limited) PvP to Pokemon Go yesterday.
- abledon 8y ago
  if they had added turn-based PVP with an AR overlay for other viewers to 'watch' on their phone, with crazy effects and real life sized pokemon,,,,, would have been a HUGE hit with initial snowball of people flocking to that app.
skocznymroczny 8y ago
I think a big flaw of Pokemon Go was how different the experience was for urban folks and the rural folks. While the former were running between Charizards and Blastoises, the latter were enjoying their very rare Pidgey and Rattata spawns.
- titusjohnson 8y ago
  As someone who grew up in an extremely rural area, I sympathize with those who didn't get to experience the full Pokemon Go launch, it was pretty amazing to partake in. Seeing hundreds of people out for night walks, hearing someone shout "There's one down here!" at the other end of the park, running in crowds with strangers to get in on a capture, it was a lot of fun while it the initial surge lasted. The magic burnt out pretty quick for me, but I do still see people playing the game at least a few times a week. As someone who left that rural background and now lives in a smaller, but proper city, my response is a lot colder and less sympathetic. Living rurally is a trade off. Cheaper land and housing, more space, less culture, fewer people, and less socialization. The internet _helps_ but it doesn't _cure_ this issue. Until we have teleportation living rurally will always be more isolating. It's not really surprising that a walking-based game with a social streak that seeks to have 10 to 30 interactions per user per hour (pokes to catch, teams to form, battles to fight, etc) wouldn't work well in areas of the world where there aren't even 10 to 30 _people_ per square mile.
  - erikpukinskis 8y ago
    > Until we have teleportation living rurally will always be more isolating. I am very curious how close VR with gaze and body language tracking will get us.

travisr 8y ago

What do you mean by "allowed"?

TotempaaltJ 8y ago
From what I understand, their contract with Nintendo (or whoever) explicitly dissolve disallowed it.
- wokwokwok 8y ago
  That’s an odd assertion, given PvP battles are now live. Do you have anything to back it up? My understanding was that they just have a small team and aren’t very good (ie. brave enough) at making changes beyond ‘text fixes’
  - oregontechninja 8y ago
    He's saying traditional as in a turn based strategy game like the core series (like Red and Blue). Many of the long time fans were turned away by lack of strategy.
    - anoncoward111 8y ago
      Not only was the button mashing (and lag) extremely offputting, the worst feeling in the world was beating a level 6 gym by yourself and then someone puts their pokemon in before yours. I rage uninstalled pokemon go after that and my data bill has been rational ever since :)

chc4 8y ago

They added (limited) PvP to Pokemon Go yesterday.

abledon 8y ago
if they had added turn-based PVP with an AR overlay for other viewers to 'watch' on their phone, with crazy effects and real life sized pokemon,,,,, would have been a HUGE hit with initial snowball of people flocking to that app.

skocznymroczny 8y ago

I think a big flaw of Pokemon Go was how different the experience was for urban folks and the rural folks. While the former were running between Charizards and Blastoises, the latter were enjoying their very rare Pidgey and Rattata spawns.

titusjohnson 8y ago
As someone who grew up in an extremely rural area, I sympathize with those who didn't get to experience the full Pokemon Go launch, it was pretty amazing to partake in. Seeing hundreds of people out for night walks, hearing someone shout "There's one down here!" at the other end of the park, running in crowds with strangers to get in on a capture, it was a lot of fun while it the initial surge lasted. The magic burnt out pretty quick for me, but I do still see people playing the game at least a few times a week. As someone who left that rural background and now lives in a smaller, but proper city, my response is a lot colder and less sympathetic. Living rurally is a trade off. Cheaper land and housing, more space, less culture, fewer people, and less socialization. The internet _helps_ but it doesn't _cure_ this issue. Until we have teleportation living rurally will always be more isolating. It's not really surprising that a walking-based game with a social streak that seeks to have 10 to 30 interactions per user per hour (pokes to catch, teams to form, battles to fight, etc) wouldn't work well in areas of the world where there aren't even 10 to 30 _people_ per square mile.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  > Until we have teleportation living rurally will always be more isolating. I am very curious how close VR with gaze and body language tracking will get us.