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World Draw
- papa_bear 8y agoIt's telling me my browser is unsupported and to use Chrome, but I'm using the latest version on Mac. Anyone else getting this? Works on Safari though.
- Mononokay 8y agoWorking on Firefox 63.0.3 running on Linux perfectly.
- esotericsean 8y agoWorking in Chrome on macOS for me.
- torarnv 8y agoSeems like a bad version check. I'm running latest Beta (Version 71.0.3578.53 (Official Build) beta (64-bit)) on macOS and seeing the same thing.
- chki 8y agoSame for me. Ironically if you click on the "unsupported" link it wants you to install Chrome.
- Mononokay 8y agoKinda disappointing that the "AI" bit of it is just image recognition. I thought it was going to be a cool demo on changing 2D drawings to 3D objects.
- levesque 8y agoThere's probably a project to make here. Take those pixel2pixel models that are able to generate images from drawings, generalize them to 3D, say a pixel2vertex. Would be pretty neat. The key would be to find a way to constrain the output space so that it's not so vast that it won't be possible to converge to something useful.
- azlen 8y agoThat would be very interesting, reminds me of an demo a couple years back of sketching buildings and and immediately being translated using procedural shape grammars into 3d. http://www-sop.inria.fr/reves/Basilic/2016/NGGBB16/ http://www-sop.inria.fr/reves/Basilic/2016/NGGBB16/
- bfdm 8y agoNeat idea, but seems to be limited in user choice. Tried to draw a couple of things, it picked the closest match, then got stuck on "Finding a place in the world" for me (why can't I pick?). Also can't seem to draw new things, just pick from the AI guesses, so far as I can tell. I look forward to poking at the next version.
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- petetnt 8y agoThe graphics are incredibly charming! Would totally play a Sim City / Cities: Skylines etc. type of game with graphics like this and think the drawing controls could be a really nice way of navigating blocks and such on too!
- markovbot 8y agoI'm not really understanding the point of this. I can draw something, then it tries to match it to one of it's cookie cutter things that it knows about, and doesn't seem to use my drawing at all in the final map. So is this just a glorified "thing picker", rather than a big dropdown or something?
- Normal_gaussian 8y agoThis was my experience. First I drew a post box that I can (normally) see from my window. It tried to tell me it was a house, and I managed to cancel out by accident in my search for a "not a house" option. Second I drew a bush with lots of bubbly bits - very mario-esque - but it turned it into a spheroid. Confusing if this is what was intended; but the UI was pretty.
- komali2 8y agoYea would have been much more pleasant to just type "fence." I thought I could place it myself, I was going to be an Internet about it and drop a fence right in the middle of this roundabout with like ten buses going around it, but I'm stuck on this "finding a place in the world," so I don't really get the purpose of this app at all. I have no way to distinguish if I actually am affecting this "world." For all I know someone is just modeling stuff, and when I draw a "fence" it goes and finds a random fence and says "here's the fence you made, yay for you!"
- therein 8y ago> I have no way to distinguish if I actually am affecting this "world." For all I know someone is just modeling stuff, and when I draw a "fence" it goes and finds a random fence and says "here's the fence you made, yay for you!" I have a feeling that's exactly what's going on here because I drew a small bush and it said "Thank you, the world needed 4 of those!". Also take a look at where most of the trees were created at. Shoreline Amphitheatre. :)
- jayd16 8y agoIts just a thing they made for the last Google IO to show off their doodle-to-thing ai recognition. So, yeah, the thing picker is the point.
- kuanbutts 8y agoCan we all just acknowledge that the "AI" aspect of this is gimmicky and - ignoring that part - Scribblenauts did this way, way better back in like '09?
- zeroname 8y agoAcknowledged. I would say even Scribblenauts might've been actually a better game without this gimmick. It wouldn't have attracted the same amount of attention though.
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- deft 8y agoThis site makes absolutely no sense. Why is there no explanation to what I'm supposed to do and to what is happening? It says it's the "world" but I can barely navigate a small little neighbourhood. I thought I'd be able to explore the whole planet with drawings correlated to the location they're made in. Why does it tell me where people are drawing things from when it really means nothing? When I finally got around to drawing something, it didn't work. I drew a relatively simple rectangular building and nothing happened. I realized it must be matching based off of things it already knows so I restarted and drew the simplest 3 line car I could. Still nothing. No error, no instructions. Just a trash can and a circular arrow. This experiment is a failure.
- Varcht 8y agoI don't know, took me a few moments to create a house boat. Experiment is a success?
- zeroname 8y agoYou didn't create a house boat. Somebody modeled a house boat, gave it two parameters to slightly tweak it. An ML system was trained to classify scribbles as (among others) a house boat. You scribbled something that the ML system classified as a house boat. None of the characteristics in your drawing moved over to the model. The only creative part (your scribble) was destroyed. You could've just typed "house boat" and picked the model from a list. The result would be the same.
- jade-cat 8y agoThe Draw Things section has no way to finalize the drawing. The only buttons are reset and undo. Also on the world map there's a bunch of bikes that claim to be cars and pickups. Firefox on Windows.
- baumgarn 8y agoIt works completely contrary to what it pretends. There is no creativity and creative collaboration happening here. Everything I draw is turned into a predefined shaped. Everything unique is translated into something generic. I think there is a serious misunderstanding about the value of creativity happening here, and I very much hope this is not the future Google is imagining for us.
- fermentation 8y agoThis is probably the most dramatic reply I can think of
- baumgarn 8y agoHahaha, thanks. I remembered this site i used to spend time on where people actually collaborated on weird quilt paintings back around 2000 - now this was a lot of fun. Sadly not functional anymore and only as a gallery http://www.ice.org/tiles/ http://www.ice.org/tiles/ The paintings might be a bit uglyish, but I prefer them any day to the kind of tech fetishization Google is presenting here.
- ademi2 8y agoIt's an idea for a new open project, something like Github but with creative artistic designs! Where people can use similar version control ideology for an art project!
- tartoran 8y agoArt doesn't work like that, it could be a bit more disorganized, spontaneous, fluid, etc. As soon as it is pinned down it looses its vitality, becomes boring fast. Artists spend a lifetime to end up settling in some very personal ways.
- tartoran 8y agoI actually like this art quite a bit, don't find it uglish at all. Sad that it's not functional anymore, how did the collaboration take place? It could not have been real time at the time could it?
- wrayjustin 8y agoNo matter what I draw, I always end up stuck on the "finding a place in the world" step.
- zeroname 8y agoI guess the world is "full".
- Cd00d 8y agoI think it's really weird that you can't draw people or animals. I tried to add a t-rex to the world :(
- Hoasi 8y agoThis AI doesn't seem to recognize my drawing... https://imgur.com/a/fwmUEP6 https://imgur.com/a/fwmUEP6
- dummyvariable 8y agoThat was a good one!
- beaconstudios 8y agothank
- anonytrary 8y agoAmazing idea! Poor execution. I tried to draw something and it basically reduced to an AI doing an object recognition on what I had drawn, then suggesting me the closest matches from its existing database. I clicked on a match, then was able to change TWO parameters describing the object. It would have been much more interesting if you could draw something, then have an AI try to guess what it would look like in 3D, then add your model to their database. People could then upvote/downvote models to get rid of crappy results, and the AI could use that information to learn what models it messed up generating.
- fredley 8y agoIt kind of sucks if you draw something nice, but it can't tell what it is, so that's that.
- black-tea 8y agoI tried to draw a church but it didn't recognise it. This is no more advanced, and waaay less useful than this: http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html (which is at least 10 years old at this point).
- brian_herman__ 8y agoI thought this had something to do with the world chess championship though this is cool too.
- rollcat 8y ago> This website is optimized for certain browsers and devices. > Please upgrade your browser. Emphasis mine - I'm on Firefox 63. I can't believe this is still happening in 2018. :(
- robocat 8y agoEspecially because the corporate ESR version 60 is relevent for about another year (support finishes when Firefox 69 comes out).
- markovbot 8y agoI'm on Firefox 63.0.3 and it worked fine
- icebraining 8y agoSame on 63.0.1.
- wokwokwok 8y agoSame thing. “Works best on chrome” I guess. :(
- asmosoinio 8y agoI am getting this with Chrome 70.0.3538.102 on Mac.
- adzm 8y agoI let my 7 year old play with this; she was able to scribble simple things which were recognized pretty well, actually, and was a fun and useful activity. I think most of HN is not the target audience here, and we are reacting to our assumptions based on the title of the project.
- jhall1468 8y agoIt's nice to see a single reasonable response here. The entire premise seems to fit a young kid contributing to something, but a bunch of jaded 30 year olds on HN are angry that this tool didn't appeal to them.
- beaconstudios 8y agoHN does tend to get very self-absorbed at times.
- air7 8y agoHeck this site doesn't even work with noscript. I'm outta here. /s
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoBut has anyone claimed that they could build it themselves in a weekend?
- nneonneo 8y ago> World Draw determines what someone is sketching and turns it into a 3D model in WebGL. This appears to be highly misleading at best. It appears to be a fancy classifier for 2D drawings, that matches to a database of predesigned slightly-customizable 3D models. There's no real connection between the drawing and the model.
- seymour333 8y agoI feel like this essentially exists for the sole purpose of generating a large training set for some sort of drawing analysis. I wonder if google has some new use case where they want to be able to quickly tag human doodles with their subject matter?
- pxtail 8y agoDon't worry, this is simply made for tracking users, first one creates few drawings then his unique drawing style is assigned to profile and voila! now you can be recognized anywhere and everywhere by simply drawing a cat. (-:
- 40acres 8y agoReading through these comments is actually kind of hilarious, HN is definitely embracing The Grinch just in time for the holidays.
- lostgame 8y agoNot sure why, but this crawls on Safari, (2013 MBP, 16GB RAM) and demands I update either Chrome or Firefox before it will run, and I generally avoid running the newest version of anything unless completely necessary. Safari gives me about 4FPS, with nothing else open.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago> I generally avoid running the newest version of anything unless completely necessary. Including your web browser!?
- lostgame 8y agoEspecially my web browser, and iOS/MacOS/Windows. The security issues are not nearly as important to me as the software actually functioning the way I want. The best security is just not to use Google products to start, I know, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. I also avoid upgrading Logic Pro / Final Cut Pro like the plague. Apple has a nasty habit of changing minor UI/UX features that really screw with my workflow, even just the way they moved the 'tempo' field in Logic 10.4.
- ChuckMcM 8y agoI guess it says something that my drawing is so bad it doesn't recognize it as anything? The tool seems oddly non-functional.
- Waterluvian 8y agoYou know those joke UI exercises of "the most terrible way to implement a volume slider" or whatnot? This is basically that. In order to pick a tree prefab, please draw a tree.
- bobthechef 8y agoI don't get it.
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- emmelaich 8y agoIt'd be cool if you create things like in the Scribblenauts game.
- Bucephalus355 8y agoAn AI Experiment to “draw the world closer together”? While I appreciate this cool technology, it would look like the gushing technoutopianism of say 2010 is still alive and well inside Google despite social unrest across the world. I don’t want to explicitly criticize their optimism, but maybe they should have used a more restrained statement to describe their app?
- augbog 8y agoIs it just me or is it so slow?
- crystalPalace 8y agoThe drawing screen lags a little for me. Kinda hard to draw precisely unless you move very slowly.
- nthnclrk 8y agoSurely everyone else just sees this as a scaled way to keep training Google's machine learning models, right?
- sidcool 8y agoA lot of cynicism in comments. Seems like an innocuous experiment. Cool graphics. Average experience. But built on the web, that's important. Let's not conspiracy theories get the better of us.
- mohancy 8y agoSlightly the lot of changes regularly impacting the world like technology day by day change, some predictions for the near-future of artificial intelligence.
- tartoran 8y agoIt's drawing only cactuses?? I didn't know I could draw cactuses so well
- asmosoinio 8y ago> This website is optimized for certain browsers and devices. Please upgrade your browser. ... which? Getting this with Chrome 70.0.3538.102 on Mac.
- Illniyar 8y agoSeems like a great way to get training data for image recognition (or whatever the term that applies). Kudos google.
- hummingurban 8y agookay be honest...how many of you tried drawing a penis?
- b199 8y agoI'm guessing the suggested items are the ones hard to differ. Analytics and explanation of patterns to the machine if you ask me. They just keep pushing out stuff for the same reason on and on
- 2474 8y agoWell apparently they haven't modeled the Death Star yet... Turns out the closest thing to a Death Star is a bush.