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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation
- Fuzzwah 8y agoActual link to the tweet that has all the actual content: https://twitter.com/IrishAero/status/1061669444093730820 https://twitter.com/IrishAero/status/1061669444093730820 Direct link to the audio: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/einn/EINN-High-Nov-09-2018-0630Z.mp3 http://archive-server.liveatc.net/einn/EINN-High-Nov-09-2018... Side note; including a screenshot of a tweet with out a link to it, is pretty lame.
- adetrest 8y agoAudio: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/einn/EINN-High-Nov-09-2018-0630Z.mp3 http://archive-server.liveatc.net/einn/EINN-High-Nov-09-2018... (skip to 17min40s)
- Angostura 8y ago"Glad it wasn't just me" made me laugh.
- ronnier 8y agoWould love a transcript if anyone happens to find one. I have a very difficult time making out what is said, I'm not sure how they understand each other.
- minota 8y agoYup, just did it. I had to run over it a few times and transcribe it to catch what they were saying. Even then, there are still some bits I could not comprehend though. Wonder if Amazon/Google Transcribe can do a better job?
- PuffinBlue 8y agoVASaviation YouTube channel just released a video on the event. Starts about half way through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv7x4dRye3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv7x4dRye3U
- lend000 8y agoDo any airlines have high-def video cameras on planes? Seems like something that would be financially feasible with modern technology and would provide very useful data for unexplained phenomena like this. I imagine I'm not the only one who would pay to subscribe for a streaming service for airline footage, even when there aren't UFO sightings to examine.
- LolNoGenerics 8y agoCan you imagine that it is very boring most of the time?
- JasonSage 8y agoOr just very relaxing. You can already tune into air-traffic control for white noise.
- andymal 8y agoJust like my dash cam footage probably. You wouldn't go back and watch it unless something interesting happened.
- toss1 8y agoYou might be surprised at the popularity of "Slow Television" [0], which televises the long journeys of trains, cruise ships, etc. It is apparently quite popular in Norway and growing elsewhere. Add some potential UFOs to the mix, and who knows where it might go? [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_television https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_television
- zero_iq 8y agoI remember in the 90s tuning into "space night" on a German satellite channel when I got home from the pub. Just continuous video feeds from low earth orbit with electronica/chillout playing over the top. Was really relaxing to have on in the background. I can imagine working from home with something like that on in the background and occasionally looking up to "see where we are now" - would give me some sense of travelling and seeing something new, rather than just feeling like I've been stuck at home coding in front of my laptop all day.
- snek 8y agoAre the archives just really low quality or do ATCs and pilots possess superhuman abilities to understand super low quality audio
- asdfasgasdgasdg 8y agoThis is all captured by civilian equipment on the ground. The stuff the ATCs themselves have access to is much better.
- i_am_proteus 8y agoAs someone who operated marine VHF ("bridge-to-bridge") professionally for years, I'll say that these recordings sound perfectly intelligible. I imagine ATCs and pilots have a similar culture of "get the point across as fast as possible, but not so fast that it is no longer unambiguous." Especially airband, where everyone in each area tends to guard and use a single frequency.
- Casseres 8y agoUS Air Traffic Controller here. We have what we call "phraseology". The FAA Order 7110.65 prescribes how to say what we say. It makes for safe and efficient transmissions. If there's a set way of saying something, then pilots don't have to guess what we mean if every controller says it in a different way.
- Novashi 8y agoYou do need a bit of time for your brain to get used to it.
- scoot 8y agoDid we listen to the same recording? It was perfectly clear for me...
- mrob 8y agoIt's a 16kbps MP3 file, and MP3 doesn't work well at such a low bitrate. I found it very difficult to make out the speech over the compression artifacts. I frequently watch videos at 2x speed, so I don't think I have unusually bad audio comprehension skill.
- matthewwiese 8y agoSince we don't usually get UFO threads on Hacker News, I may as well brush the dust off my tinfoil hat... What's always puzzled me about UFO sightings is the preponderance of "bright lights" being what people report seeing. If some extraterrestrial being came to visit, why make itself known? And in such an obviously unnatural way, too? One immediate counterargument I can think of is that it's good camouflage. Who needs difficult shit like invisibility when we can just pound the earthlings' pupils with light so they can't see us well! Nevertheless, has always made the skeptic in me raise my eyebrows recursively.
- Scriptor 8y agoProbably some sampling bias there. If there wasn't a bright light (whatever caused it), then chances are a person wouldn't have seen it at all.
- dktp 8y agoCan't report the invisible ones if we can't see them
- krapp 8y agoDevil's advocate: the aliens may simply not care about being seen, or they may be aware that they can operate "in the open" with plausible deniability from a skeptical public and governments being unwilling to admit their existence.
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- evilturnip 8y agoI'll also put my tinfoil hat on, since I've had a long fascination with anamolous phenomenon. I still think the jury's out on what exactly is going on, but one thing that's consistent worldwide is that balls of light are associated with UFOs, bigfoot, poltergeists, etc. My rational mind doesn't really believe in all of this, but if it did, I think I'd take Jacques Vallee's theory seriously. Jacques Vallee is an astronomer and computer scientist (involved in early ARPANET) who's studied the phenomenon since at least the 70s. Here's a fun paper: https://www.scientificexploration.org/docs/4/jse_04_1_vallee_2.pdf https://www.scientificexploration.org/docs/4/jse_04_1_vallee... He essentially argues that the UFO phenomenon is neither extra terrestrials nor merely misidentified aerial craft. It's something even stranger! Also, if you find that paper interesting, here's one of this books (one of the most well-known in the anomalous phenomenon field): https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Saucers/dp/0987422480/ https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Sauc...
- narrator 8y agoI like the Zoo hypothesis. We do that to North Sentinel Island[1]. It is populated by 50-400 stone age tribes people. India does not prosecute them for murdering anyone who happens to land on their island. Previous contacts with these people led to them rapidly dying of diseases they didn't have immunity to, so staying uncontacted is literally a life or death issue for them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island
- russdill 8y agoI think it's bizarre that the fact that we have absolutely zero evidence for aliens actually gives a little weight to things like the zoo hypothesis.
- psandersen 8y agoTechnically every hypothesis that fits our data should get a little weight, plus our best available models of the universe show there should be billions of planets as habitable as ours. That is evidence in the abstract sense and we currently lack the technology to observe these candidate planets in enough detail to test the models further. We're like a person sitting in the desert at night with nothing but a candle concluding that the planet is completely deserted because they can't see anyone else.
- sublimation_19 8y agoFor anyone fascinated with the hype around UFO sightings, "The Resonance of Unseen Things" [1] is an interesting read focusing on the structure of the stories and their connection to people's social and economic lives. It approaches the UFO believers subculture from a sympathetic viewpoint and tries to understand. Great ethnography. [1]https://www.press.umich.edu/8373560/resonance_of_unseen_things https://www.press.umich.edu/8373560/resonance_of_unseen_thin...
- pubby 8y agoA few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I was a mess. And sure, it was probably a drone. Or a plane. Or a shooting star, etc. But was it? I couldn't shake the thought that it wasn't. It sounds hilariously silly now, but at the time it really screwed with my mental state.
- partiallypro 8y agoA similar thing happened to me a few weeks ago, I was so freaked out by it that I downloaded and paid for an app that showed satellite positions. Turns out...my rational side was right, it was indeed a satellite in low orbit, giving it the appearance of a fast speed and a very bright disposition. It was still a weird experience. There were two satellite actually. As for what this was? Honestly it sounds like people may have seen an air force drill of some military (possibly Russian or US.)
- skunkworker 8y agoHere's a good one that I think a lot of the 2 or 3 (Triangle) ufo sightings come from. The NOSS satellites commonly can be seen in a double or triple configuration. Here is an example image https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7XAxIsInxSM/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7XAxIsInxSM/maxresdefault.jpg China also launched triple satellite configurations into an almost identical orbit. http://www.satobs.org/noss.html http://www.satobs.org/noss.html
- bemmu 8y agoOnce this happened to me with a friend. We were staring at the sky when suddenly a progression of lights started moving quickly across the sky. At first I thought it might be a shower of large meteors about to hit us. Later on discovered someone had just released a bunch of sky lanterns, something I'd never seen before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_lantern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_lantern It can be tricky to judge the distance, speed and size of objects in the sky.
- minota 8y agoTranscribing the interesting bits from 18:15 Man A (ATC?): There's nothing showing on either primary or secondary Woman A: Ok, it was moving so fast. [Inaudible] Man A: Alongside you? Woman A: Yes, it was rapidly [inaudible] bright light and then it just disappeared at a very high speed. I am still wondering. Didn't think it was likely collision course. Wondering what sort it could be. Man B: Meteor or another object. Some kind of re-entry. Seem to be multiple objects following the same sort of trajectory. Very bright where we were Woman B (ATC?): Ok, that's copy, so what's the direction it was going in. Man B: Virgin 76 [inaudible] saw that NRS 11-o'clock position two bright lights. Woman B: Roger that's copy, thank you. Man C: So that wasn't just me? Man B: No. Yeah, very interesting, that one. Man B: Virgin 76. I saw two bright lights 11 o'clock. Seem to bank over to the right and then climb away. Speed at least Mach [inaudible] Woman B: Okay, we're passing that on, thank you. Man D (or is it Man A?): [inaudible] 94 Shannon. Man D: Just to let you know that other aircrafts in the area have also reported the same thing. So we're going to have a look and see. Man E: Speed was astronomical. It was like Mach 2. Man D: Roger, OK. Thank you.
- codezero 8y agowould be interesting to know the relative trajectory – would help determine if it was a known satellite reentry or on a typical orbit of debris (lots of periodic comets have well known debris trails, they form most of the "meteor showers" that happen yearly.)
- slg 8y agoThe transcript above refers to the object banking and climbing. That sounds a lot more like a secret military vehicle than falling space debris.
- flukus 8y agoCould be one skipping off the atmosphere. Aero breaking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobraking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobraking) if you want to stick with the spacecraft theory.
- Geee 8y agoThere is also a possibility of these bright balls of light actually being terrestrial lifeforms of some sort.
- Apocryphon 8y agoPerhaps it'd be more interesting for both casual observers and conspiracy theorists alike to assume modern UFOs are not extraterrestrial spacecraft, but clandestine earthly government aircraft. Maybe they turn on the bright lights to pretend to be aliens, to throw off the scent.
- thekingofh 8y agoPopular ideas in UFO circles are that there was a crash, the govs have the tech, and the craft we usually see are replication vehicles attempting to test out what we gathered from the real one that crashed years ago.
- nyolfen 8y agothis is probably pretty close to the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSLYh6ypiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSLYh6ypiw
- themodelplumber 8y agoI haven't read/heard any comments about possible sound (sonic boom or other) from these lights, whatever they were. Anybody know differently?
- motohagiography 8y agoIt it were aliens, they are probably making contact with the cephalopod population under the sea to see if they have developed technology yet, and in this planets case they've found another monkey hominid infestation in one of those rare millennia before its civilizations manage to collectively off themselves.
- HillaryBriss 8y agoMaybe the aliens want to communicate with the cephalopods anyway simply because their brains and consciousness are more interesting than ours. I mean, maybe. I don't know. Could be. I've never talked to one.
- srge 8y agoThat’s exactly what a cephalopod would say...
- motohagiography 8y agoThe cephs are better suited to space travel owing to their ability to survive cryogenisis, replication of their memories and intelligence throughout their bodies, no need for gravity, ability to breed i large numbers and transmit information to offspring. Hominids are a peculiarity of adapting to a given planet, where the cepholopods are adaptable to more common environments in the universe.
- newnewpdro 8y agoIsn't the most likely explanation for these sightings secret military aircraft testing/missions? There's been a number of credible UFO sightings lately, some even by military pilots and captured on video. If you consider how long it's been since there's been a major breakthrough publicized in the air superiority department, and how advanced technology in general has become since the days of the SR-71, we're long overdue for some next-level aircraft likely to be kept under wraps until required to win a conflict.
- hanoz 8y agoMisjudging distance seems to be a very frequent suspect in tales of the unexplained. "The light moved at an extraordinary speed" - it moved at an ordinary speed, close to you. Likewise "through the distant moors it stalked - a panther!" - a pet cat.
- ramgorur 8y agoWhy all these sightings are never accompanied with sonic booms? If something is moving that fast through the atmosphere, there must be a sonic boom. Or is there any way to suppress this? At least theoretically?
- andrewflnr 8y agoI do remember reading about an airframe designed to produce two sonic booms that cancelled each other out.
- ramgorur 8y agoYea, looks like it's possible to some extent. https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/270969/is-it- https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/270969/is-it- possible-to-noise-cancel-a-sonic-boom
- partiallypro 8y agoNASA is actually working on this, if I remember correctly. They want it to be a "low boom," apparently it's still a work in progress. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/6/nasa-quiet-sonic-boom-tests-rattle-galveston-texas/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/6/nasa-quiet-s...
- DonkeyChan 8y agoSeparating a pocket of space-time from itself, then moving that. Which would also effect inertia. I suspect that moving space-time around itself would introduce totally different shearing effects but maybe those could be mitigated using special non-physical(or physical) geometry, like aerodynamics but for space-time.
- KirinDave 8y agoUh, so... I don't have precise enough times to do this, but my first question is, "Is this an Iridium Flare event?" If you have never seen "Iridium Flares", grab your phone and download an Iridium Flare app. They're confusing, spectacular, and they actually happen pretty often. Because this sounds an awful lot like an iridium flare. And they're a kind of persistent source of "inexplicable aircraft" reports because they're SO bright you assume they have to be close by.
- atombender 8y agoIridium flares are extremely brief — they last just a couple of seconds. The pilot said "the object had come up along the left side of the aircraft". No pilot is going to describe an Iridium flare like that.
- KirinDave 8y agoThey are brief, but they can be longer than 2 seconds. They can easily last 7 seconds. Some even longer. Also, they can migrate across a huge swath of the sky and when you confuse a person's visual system, they have to interpret it. Obviously, I don't know for sure. But I checked and there was one in the area with a pretty long duration depending on where you are.
- Rebelgecko 8y agoIt looks like an Iridium passed over the ocean between Ireland and Iceland around 6:30Z, around 15 minutes before the radio conversation. However it doesn't quite line up with where I'm assuming the aircraft were
- _asummers 8y agoWould looking at it through a lens of clouds make it appear in a different spot to an observer?
- partiallypro 8y agoI never knew this was a thing, this definitely explains my experience with a satellite passing by I posted to this thread earlier.
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- infradig 8y agoNot to put a downer on speculation but probably military jets that lit the afterburners and zoomed away. My first thought was F-111s, but since it seems they were radar quiet, maybe stealth planes.
- FavouriteColour 8y agoNo more F-111s in service: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111_Aardvark#Operational_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111_Aardvar...
- zoenolan 8y agoEven if the Dump & Burn was spectacular https://youtu.be/BXmnr6_jKuw https://youtu.be/BXmnr6_jKuw
- mothsonasloth 8y agoI think you mean F-117 nighthawk, which was decommissioned.
- radiorental 8y ago'decommissioned' means different things to different people https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-f117-nighthawk-stealth-aircraft-still-flies-after-retirement-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-f117-nighthawk-ste...
- zoenolan 8y agoThe F-117 doesn't have afterburners. goes against the whole stealth thing
- nickphx 8y agocould be the USAF's unmanmed high orbit XB drone
- remir 8y agoA couple of years ago, I heard of a case where a guy was flying a small plane over James Bay in Québec in around 1978 and he saw what he thought were 5 fuel tanks on the ground, around 60' in diameters each. This was strange since this is in the middle of nowhere and these weren't even there a couple of days before and no road is leading to this place. As he approached the location, the "fuel tanks" started moving in formation and flew upward at an impossible speed. They looked like fuel tank from above, but they were circular crafts. Keep in mind, 5 objects of this size, moving at this speed would have displaced a lot or air, but there was no disruption, no noise. There's some big hydro electric dams in this place and apparently these crafts are often seen hovering above the power lines.
- gnulinux 8y agoIt's all nice and cute we're wearing our tin foils in this thread sharing interesting stories and papers. But > I heard of a case where a guy seems maybe a bit too shallow. Not trying to be an asshole but I do wonder what's the credibility of this guy.
- madeuptempacct 8y agoI am guessing most people browsing this are suddenly intrigued by the topic. This is the most interesting incident ever, by far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident
- yesenadam 8y agoWhat makes it so interesting?
- inawarminister 8y agoProbably because of >During the incident, two Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantom II jet interceptors reported losing instrumentation and communications as they approached the object. These were restored upon withdrawal. >One of the aircraft also reported a temporary weapons systems failure while the crew was preparing to open fire. These were explained away in the wikipedia article, but who knows the truth... Hidden away in another language.
- madeuptempacct 8y ago> Military sighting > Multiple points of observation from reliable sources. Visual AND radar observation > "Natural" sources ruled out > Military equipment going out on three occasions > American military investigators > US military satellite saw an IR anomaly at the same time on its own
- gnulinux 8y agoPhoenix Lights [1] is another potentially interesting one but accounts are pretty inconsistent. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights
- yters 8y agoCould be the angels, demons, djinn of most folklore.
- olivermarks 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter historical perspective
- blocked_again 8y agoThese sightings are all most all the time reported in the United States which probably means this is some sort of advanced military aircraft testing. The reason why none of the incidents can see the thing clearly is that because when seen clearly its just another plane and nobody reports that.
- egfx 8y agoWell this lends some credibility to a comment I posted just about a week ago. It got a lot of push-back understandably but being an eye witness myself. I know the phenomenon is true. It was in no way a meteor because it moved in erratic directions, up, down, left, right, and figure 8's. Is this from outer space though? It's been happening for at least 25 years. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18367198 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18367198
- vorticalbox 8y agoBright lights moving at "Mach 2" and no reports of hearing a sonic boom?
- macawfish 8y agoCarl Jung wrote about UFOs as something of a collective hallucination, a mass psycho-spiritual phenomenon. Not in the sense that they are "unreal", but in that they tap into an extraordinary dimension of our collective awareness. I suggest checking out "Flying Saucers: a Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky."
- sriku 8y agoBall lightning? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning
- darkhorn 8y agohttps://youtu.be/hxiDA3tVjRA https://youtu.be/hxiDA3tVjRA https://youtu.be/hF-kuB9pBT0 https://youtu.be/hF-kuB9pBT0 https://youtu.be/6ioN-3UWYrY https://youtu.be/6ioN-3UWYrY https://youtu.be/7n79gnbab_o https://youtu.be/7n79gnbab_o https://youtu.be/WlX-cEsnILc https://youtu.be/WlX-cEsnILc
- PuffinBlue 8y agoTwo of those were obviously insects, probably fireflies. One even goes in front of the tree in the parking lot. The others were just a blurred mess. This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlX-cEsnILc&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlX-cEsnILc&feature=youtu.be ...isn't ball lightning, it's that weird ice crystal thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ0laC2FksA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ0laC2FksA I'd love to see an actual ball lightning example if anyone has one though, it would be amazing to see!
- darkhorn 8y agoThis is something else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5cqazajP1Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5cqazajP1Q
- mothsonasloth 8y agoRussians probing NATO airspace along the Atlantic?
- cmroanirgo 8y agoA lot of people typically have a "Where's the proof?" wrt UFOs. However, there is Dr Steven Greer who in 2001 fronted a 'Disclosure Project' in which many people from positions of authority (eg FAA chiefs, Tower operators, Military pilots, etc) stated quite clearly on National Press Club in Washington their testimony on UFO's. [0] Since then, he's been often quoted as saying that there's such an abundance of proof that it's embarrassing. He has video and other testimonies from world leaders, and often sits down with heads of state advising them, and now has hundreds of testimonies from verifiable people in the military industrial complex testifying to the authenticity of their existence, as well as the massive deliberate misinformation systems put into place to control the UFO 'story'. [1] I'd recommend watching his documentaries, Sirius and Unacknowledged [2][2b] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClhNHIEPCKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClhNHIEPCKE [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVg1HBlWA4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVg1HBlWA4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZMgbXNSBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZMgbXNSBs [2] http://siriusdisclosure.com/ http://siriusdisclosure.com/ [2b] Sirius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_-HLD21hA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_-HLD21hA edit: better links
- credit_guy 8y agoCall me not convinced. https://xkcd.com/1235/ https://xkcd.com/1235/
- cmroanirgo 8y agoFair enough, but you can't really trust what's posted as video/photo evidence these days: https://youtu.be/Fm8FJ8la2VU https://youtu.be/Fm8FJ8la2VU I'd go for sworn affidavits with independently verifiable credentials for things like this. Dr Greer has collected thousands of data points on this topic, however. (Perhaps you haven't watched the 3rd link posted above, which is >1.5hr interview with a Richard Doty from OSI whose job it was to discredit/cover up/investigate all of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZMgbXNSBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZMgbXNSBs Also, the news wouldn't get out anyway: "So, every news agency, every television and radio station in the Albuquerque and Santa-Fe area had our snitches in there... we paid them good money" 1:24) edit: added relevant quote from doco.
- torgian 8y agoI still feel like if UFOs really were able to one: fly here and two: mess with us, they would just kill us off and take our planet. Or enslave us. It's what we would probably end up doing.
- axilmar 8y agoA more down-to-earth explanation for the lights could be spherical lightning bolts or spherical clouds or a combination of these two things.
- ainiriand 8y agoI saw 1 meteor over Dublin this weekend. It was on Sunday at about 23:30 and I was looking towards Ursa Major. I've seen a few by now to know that it was just that, a meteor. White and bright, moving fast and disappearing.
- PuffinBlue 8y agoI saw one not too long ago. Two white lights in the sky spaced close enough and moving so as to be obviously 'connected' to each other. It was perfectly still night in the UK. I outstretched my hand and finger and, I forget the details exactly, but the finger just about blocked out the pair of lights I think. A quick call to my father in law (pilot) and some info on joining the landing pattern at Boscombe Down, added to the lack of red/green lights so not normally a craft expecting to interact with other traffic, and a little investigative intuition seeing as the lights were moving so slow as to almost be gliding - and I find the Zephyr high altitude long endurance surveillance aircraft. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mod-buys-third-record-breaking-uav https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mod-buys-third-record-bre... A bit of trigonometry showed with a wingspan of 35m (I think that was it) and the angle of my finger outstretched, put the craft at about the height it should be for following the standard approach path into Boscombe Down. So with a little knowledge it was possibly to determine with a high degree of likelihood what this 'UFO' was. I suspect that virtually all reports can be attributed to similar terrestrial origins with experimental aircraft and using the 'extra-terrestrial' card is just a convenient way of covering that up. EDIT - I should add I saw it because it was I think the night SpaceX launched and landed a reusable rocket maybe for first time? Or perhaps it was reused rocket with reused dragon cargo capsule to ISS. The path I think was going to take it over the UK anyway, so I was out to see if it would be visible, having watched the launch a little earlier in the evening. Note to Royal Air Force - don't land the slightly secret plane when many people is likely to be looking up!
- jrgoj 8y agoI saw the Black Triangle UFO [1] in Duluth, MN about 10 years go. It went from a low altitude hover to a slow glide across the night sky. I was standing almost directly under it in a parking lot. I thought it was a strange pattern of new streetlights for a few moments until it started gliding. Always wondered what that was. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO)
- el_don_almighty 8y agoWe're here for your Lucky Charms!
- el_don_almighty 8y agoWe're here for your Lucky Charms
- js4ever 8y agoTR3B