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My experience with Bixby has been mixed as I am not too fond of the leveling system they have in place. However, I recently got a Samsung TV that has Bixby inte
by julianh95 8y ago
My experience with Bixby has been mixed as I am not too fond of the leveling system they have in place. However, I recently got a Samsung TV that has Bixby integrated and I dig it for the small tasks it can accomplish well such as changing the TV input selection. I can't wait to give the dev stuff a try!
On an unrelated note, I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it.
- maxxxxx 8y ago"my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it." I don't have a TV but really?
- ravenstine 8y agoThey couldn't pay me enough to use such a device.
- Spivak 8y agoYep, lets talk about the main demographic for big box TVs. - Used to being advertised to constantly so it's not really more of an intrusion. - Typically don't realize they can or have little desire to impose their will on technology. - Usually very price discriminating so shaving a few extra dollars off with ad revenue does translate into more sales. - Have demonstrated their value as someone with disposable income. - "Smart features" are a novelty value-add that's really cheap to include and has basically no user expectation of working. Match made in heaven honestly. If you really want a dumb TV you pretty much have to find somewhere that sells commercial models but you're going to pay a huge premium. They're on the way out too since businesses just opt for just buying the cheper consumer models. Your realistic options: - Find a Smart TV that can pass as a dumb TV and just never network the thing. Sony is pretty not terrible. - Buy a projector. - Buy a TV with a built-in Chromecast or wait for Android TV to happen which might be a not terrible enough experience to actually use.
- maxxxxx 8y agoWow. We are really moving into a sad future where we will be watched and advertised to all the time. I guess self driving cars will also have an ad screen you probably can turn off for a premium.
- mindcrime 8y agoWow. We are really moving into a sad future where we will be watched and advertised to all the time. If you see any Zik Zak ads[1], run away as fast as you can! [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJP-Ilw_xaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJP-Ilw_xaY
- jonathankoren 8y agoI'm confused by dismisal of smart tvs as "novelty value add[s]", while simultaneously saying "buy a tv with a built in chromecast". That's pretty much what smart televisions are. Mine has multiple streaming clients built in that work perfectly fine. It's literally running Android. The biggest problem with it is that it uses some private LG app store. If it didn't, I wouldn't own a Apple TV, but as it is, the built in tv apps are where I spend 90% of my time. They work. They're updated frequently. The experience is just better.
- Spivak 8y agoSmart TVs where the software is managed by the hardware vendor are IMO garbage. I'm saying if you can find a TV where the smart features are provided and managed by company whose device you were going to plug in the back anyway (Roku, Apple TV, Chromecast, etc.) then it's not too bad. Isn't LG running webOS? Didn't think they had any Android based non "Android TV" models.
- jonathankoren 8y agoYou're right, it is WebOS. Honestly, it's pretty good, with the caveat that outside of the major streaming providers, the apps aren't very interesting. But it's not like we're talking a infotainment system from a car manufacturer, those things are 100% shit every time.
- NickNameNick 8y agoI love my Android TV, but I had to uninstall "Google play movies and TV" from it a few nights ago. It was playing movie trailers in the background of the home screen. I don't need to watch the trailer for skyscraper on continuous loop.
- ovi256 8y agoAuto-starting trailers for adult movies like Predator is a horrible experience if you have kids in the house. Who thought that's a good idea should never be allowed to make decisions. Thanks for the idea to uninstall that app.
- jbigelow76 8y agoOn an unrelated note, I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it. Don't connect it to the interwebs. I don't have mine connected and have never seen an ad (granted it's two years old, so maybe it's only more recent models).
- hndamien 8y agoHow is Netflix on that?
- thfuran 8y agoGreat when you're furnishing the Netflix via HDMI.
- deathhand 8y agoI think this is the most sane answer. Yes we do not want 'smart TVs' and we should vote with our wallet... But when all else fails why not 'hack'[1] it? [1]https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hack https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hack
- saagarjha 8y agoPlug in a set top box.
- rocqua 8y agoI'm looking at a chromecast ultra. It'll do Netflix with 4K and HDR, plus all the other chromecast apps.
- jbigelow76 8y agoIt’s great, my Apple TV doesn’t show ads either, it’s kind of their “thing”. Thanks for asking!
- lostlogin 8y agoNetflix are testing adverts unfortunately. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/aug/20/netflix-streaming-service-tests-adverts-between-shows https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...
- vorpalhex 8y ago> I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it. Welp, never buying a Samsung TV.
- EpicEng 8y agoIf that's a deal breaker you probably have few options when buying your next tv, sad as it is. I just don't use any of the "smart" crap. It's an input output device, don't need/want it to be more.
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- __sr__ 8y ago> On an unrelated note, I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it. On a lighter note, don’t TVs have ads anyway?
- markovbot 8y agoNo, shitty TV stations have ads. Not all of us watch that trash.
- LeonM 8y agoFWIW, the professional edition of windows 10 also comes with ads for games pre-installed in the start menu, I guess that's just the world we live in now...
- kencausey 8y agoSure, but they can be removed in a few seconds. Edit: I feel I should add, in fairness, that this has to be done (the removal) per account. I suspect that there is a system directory somewhere that is used as a template but I have not so far bothered to figure out where it is. I guess I've just gotten too accustomed to the 'Unpin from Start Menu' dance.
- frou_dh 8y ago> Sure, but they can be removed in a few seconds. They can haphazardly reappear in time. I've seen this happen on 2 completely unrelated PCs. It's probably just bugged. I've found the W10 Start Menu in general to be dodgy. The keyboard-driven search seems like it's totally nondeterministic, e.g. exact string matches for the name of something in Control Panel sometimes finds it and sometimes doesn't.
- jjcm 8y agoThe search speed is vastly worse than what it was on windows 8. A part of me wonders if that's due to the conversion from native languages to html+css+js for the start menu, but even so it's significantly laggy for that. Another thing that really annoys me is that web results pop in above local results on the computer. I almost never search Bing via the start menu, and I'd love for a way to disable that but I also realize it's their main strategy for monetization for win 10 now that they're doing free rolling releases.
- O_H_E 8y agoWow, now even window is being written in js. Do you have any info or read on why this is the case?
- x2f10 8y ago>On an unrelated note, I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it. Is it Samsung pushing the advertisements or is it Google (via Android TV)? This is the first I've heard of this. Gross.
- julianh95 8y agoThey appear within the TV's interface (Tizen OS).
- Ambroos 8y agoAndroid TV is free of ads. There's some space in the launcher for recommendations from content apps and Play Store, but those can be customized and turned off. Samsung doesn't use Android TV, so it's definitely 100% Samsung here.
- picsao 8y agoAt this moment in time, as far as I can observe, before or after the update, though I may be blacklisted as a dev, and as I might as well be a shillbilly, I think I can observe.. What a determinism dystopia.. Are you sure you are not a schizophrenic hallucinating adds? Maybe observing the state of your system collapses the wave function of the dystopia tech you are surrounded by?
- ddingus 8y agoI would return that. As far as I am concerned, if the TV contains ADS, it is totally not worth owning. Maybe if they gave one to me.
- reaperducer 8y agoMaybe if they gave one to me. Maybe we'll see a return to the 90's when you could get a free computer if you allowed it to show ads at the bottom of the screen.
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- dsr_ 8y agoFilter by MAC address.
- ridiculous_fish 8y agoI successfully squelched the ads in my $2k LG TV with a Pi-hole. Maybe I should have asked for more ads, they'd have given me a bigger discount.
- cocacola1 8y agoI know what I'm doing this week. It's kind of ridiculous that even their OLEDs are ad-laden.
- on_and_off 8y agoI have one of their 4k oled tvs, but I don't see which ads you are talking about ? To be fair my tv is mostly used to read my hard drive, youtube, netflix and games and not even connected to regular channels, so maybe I am missing something to get them.
- rocqua 8y agoSamsung doesn't make OLEDS, so I'm guessing you are on a different brand running a different OS.
- on_and_off 8y agoby their I meant LG
- ridiculous_fish 8y agoOn LG OLEDs, when you press the Home button, there's a sidebar on the left that consumes about 1/5th of the screen with an ad. Free trial of Starz, that sort of thing.
- on_and_off 8y agoah yeah I might have seen that .. but too small of a disturbance to spend the time to remove it.
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- jonathankoren 8y agoA couple of years ago, it was literally just device control. $215 million for device control. https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13180286/samsung-viv-labs-acquisition-siri https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13180286/samsung-viv-labs...
- satysin 8y agoYeah I had this. I simply blocked the TV from accessing the Samsung ad domains while leaving things like Netflix accessible.
- elyobo 8y agoI'm annoyed that smart TVs are a thing; it's like having a smart monitor, it just doesn't make sense. I'd rather have a beautiful dumb display that I can plug in to the smart part, allowing the (relatively cheap) smart part to be upgraded without having to upgrade the (relatively expensive) display part.
- mfoy_ 8y agoYeah, but it's pretty much impossible to find not-smart TVs. :(
- thejrk_ 8y agoAt least you can still use TV's without a network connected. For now.
- kimburgess 8y agoIt comes up nearly every time this topic is discussed here, but commercial series displays are what you are looking for. Prepare to pay more, but in exchange get a display that just functions as a display.
- rocqua 8y agoPaying more for fewer features doesn't make sense though. I'm also guessing the commercial displays also are tuned more for endurance and less for quality.
- adetrest 8y ago> On an unrelated note, I am pretty upset that my Samsung ~$1200 TV has ads built into it. If you knew all the data it collects from you, you'd never give it internet access again: - grabs the list of HDMI connected peripherals to see what other devices/consoles you use - analyzes everything you watch using video recognition (similar to what Shazam does for music, so it works with shows that you download, stream, etc and yes it also works with porn) - grabs the list of other devices it can see on the network so it knows if you're Mac or pc, iPhone or Android, etc - cross advertises things on your other devices based on your browsing history (on your phone, computer) and viewing history from your tv: do you watch a lot of shows from HBO but you don't have a cable or satellite box connected to your tv? You'll now be a target for ads from HBO and your friendly neighborhood cable company to subscribe. - tracks your tv viewing habits to provide real-time audience numbers and analytics to broadcasters It's not like it's a secret, but the reach/extent of the surveillance is not very well known outside the adtech industry. Since working (and leaving in disgust) the industry, I swore to never ever give a smart TV my WiFi password. There is no good reason to do so, and it tries to exfilter way too much data to my liking.