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This is great, sadly I don't know how to push my favorite content creator to move from Youtube to Peertube.

by wyoh 8y ago

gagege 8y ago
One of the main challenges is that you don't just make a PeerTube account and start uploading. You have to somehow get hosting for your videos, don't you?
- phoe-krk 8y ago
  This isn't as bad as it sounds. Enough PeerTube instances are already open to general public.
  - thrownblown 8y ago
    i wonder if there's a model where ads are served and host, platform and creator all get a slice.
djsumdog 8y ago
It's probably not wise to move, but cross posting between YouTube and a personal PeerTube instance should be the route that content creators go at first. Eventually with services like PeerTube, Patreon, Drip, it'd be nice if we one day saw more people in the general public not going to YouTube and instead to specific PeerTube instances to get their content. I'd like to see YouTube turn into MySpace, and Google have to eat all their advertisement focus, false copyright claims, censoring content bullshit.
- zabuni 8y ago
  Anything that gets large enough to matter will have to deal with false copyright claims and censoring content bullshit, without the help of the Google legal department. Your future is a future of hosts constantly disappearing, due to copyright claims, child pornography, and not wanting to deal with the bullshit drama of running a server anymore. With a couple of surviving, but being way locked down and moderated. 21st century phpbb message boards, ephemeral as hell. Not to say I don't approve of the software. A self hosting video platform that doesn't die at the first viral video is a powerful thing. But Youtube is Youtube because of network effects and monetization, not technology.
- evv 8y ago
  Agreed, but cross-posting is a pain so it probably won't happen. Unless somebody makes an app to cross-post automatically, I don't see PeerTube getting much adoption from the mainstream. Even if such a cross-posting app existed, it get shut down by YT pretty quickly. To survive, I think it would need to be well-supported open source endeavor.
kodablah 8y ago
I am not familiar w/ the tech here (specifically concerning live streaming vs on-disk), but one wonders if you can proxy YouTube over PeerTube to ease the transition. Would require live search backed by site scraping, ability to stream YouTube videos over BT/PeerTube on demand, etc. Like youtube-dl but ephemeral, at least then content creators can dual host if they want. Or an easy-import feature. Or maybe just a combined user interface for clients so they don't have to switch back and forth.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  This should be quite easy, indeed. The streams themselves can quite easily be extracted, but what you probably lose is what I find makes YouTube powerful: Recommendations. Of course we could just go back to a subscription feed. I don't really see significant technical blocks here.
arnaudsm 8y ago
YouTube demonetization is such a big problem for most creators, I'm sure a last impactful YouTube scandal could push a lot of users to another platform.

This is great, sadly I don't know how to push my favorite content creator to move from Youtube to Peertube.

by wyoh 8y ago

This is great, sadly I don't know how to push my favorite content creator to move from Youtube to Peertube.

One of the main challenges is that you don't just make a PeerTube account and start uploading. You have to somehow get hosting for your videos, don't you?

phoe-krk 8y ago
This isn't as bad as it sounds. Enough PeerTube instances are already open to general public.
- thrownblown 8y ago
  i wonder if there's a model where ads are served and host, platform and creator all get a slice.

djsumdog 8y ago

It's probably not wise to move, but cross posting between YouTube and a personal PeerTube instance should be the route that content creators go at first. Eventually with services like PeerTube, Patreon, Drip, it'd be nice if we one day saw more people in the general public not going to YouTube and instead to specific PeerTube instances to get their content. I'd like to see YouTube turn into MySpace, and Google have to eat all their advertisement focus, false copyright claims, censoring content bullshit.

zabuni 8y ago
Anything that gets large enough to matter will have to deal with false copyright claims and censoring content bullshit, without the help of the Google legal department. Your future is a future of hosts constantly disappearing, due to copyright claims, child pornography, and not wanting to deal with the bullshit drama of running a server anymore. With a couple of surviving, but being way locked down and moderated. 21st century phpbb message boards, ephemeral as hell. Not to say I don't approve of the software. A self hosting video platform that doesn't die at the first viral video is a powerful thing. But Youtube is Youtube because of network effects and monetization, not technology.
evv 8y ago
Agreed, but cross-posting is a pain so it probably won't happen. Unless somebody makes an app to cross-post automatically, I don't see PeerTube getting much adoption from the mainstream. Even if such a cross-posting app existed, it get shut down by YT pretty quickly. To survive, I think it would need to be well-supported open source endeavor.

kodablah 8y ago

I am not familiar w/ the tech here (specifically concerning live streaming vs on-disk), but one wonders if you can proxy YouTube over PeerTube to ease the transition. Would require live search backed by site scraping, ability to stream YouTube videos over BT/PeerTube on demand, etc. Like youtube-dl but ephemeral, at least then content creators can dual host if they want. Or an easy-import feature. Or maybe just a combined user interface for clients so they don't have to switch back and forth.

solarkraft 8y ago
This should be quite easy, indeed. The streams themselves can quite easily be extracted, but what you probably lose is what I find makes YouTube powerful: Recommendations. Of course we could just go back to a subscription feed. I don't really see significant technical blocks here.

arnaudsm 8y ago

YouTube demonetization is such a big problem for most creators, I'm sure a last impactful YouTube scandal could push a lot of users to another platform.