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Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look
- kolderman 8y agoI still have the option to use old gmail thankfully. They did the same thing to YouTube, however there is a nice Chrome extension to force the old version.
- elvirs 8y agoyes please
- gedy 8y agoIt's funny, I absolutely love Inbox, but that's going away in favor of the "improved" Gmail which supposedly incorporated many things from Inbox - but I can't stand the new Gmail either.
- kevsim 8y agoDitto. I finally bit the bullet this week and made the switch from Inbox back to Gmail since Inbox is headed to the guillotine. So far I’m finding it awful. Miss my bundling and I miss swiping to snooze on iOS (swiping both directions archives in iOS though I’ve heard it’s configurable in Android)
- dpcan 8y agoInteresting. I switched to the new Gmail, and I actually can't remember what the old one looked like already. I'm sure Google will do just fine ignoring all these requests and their billion+ users will adapt.
- flattone 8y agoI got in a bad car accident. Neck back hurt. I can't remember what it felt like before. Not sure I'm better off now.
- manquer 8y agoYou are not.. the car manufacturer is better off , since you can't remember it is their flault..
- flattone 8y agoThe comment was meant to be analogous to remembering an incident and tracing a time where my prrception was positive. Was not meant to show tracing producer/consumer value/fault.
- vqng 8y agobut you can still feel neck back hurt
- jimueller 8y agoI agree, that thread is a bit dramatic. With compact view, I'm failing to see a big difference.
- blux 8y agoThe biggest problem in my opinion is not the new looks, but the degraded performance. It seems after just opening GMail the website tries to cache every listed email in your inbox. After that is done, it becomes faster. My use case is not to leave GMail open in a tab all the time, so I have to suffer through this caching period every time GMail is opened now. This, together with the recent Google-China upheaval, is the final straw for me. I've had a GMail account since the beginning, and am now looking into alternatives (ProtonMail, self-hosting).
- mwambua 8y agoMy biggest issue (that users will find hard to ignore) is the lag. The new UI loads noticeably slower... And I don't feel like it's giving me anything useful to compensate for the lag.
- annadane 8y agoSeen this type of comment thread before countless times on the Google support forum. They'll placate the complainers by saying they're listening to feedback and then only pay heed to the positive comments and not change a thing. De rigeur for businesses. The general type of dishonesty is quite amazing. Yes, people are maybe excessively resistant to change, but when everyone is telling you something sucks, your customers, who do you listen to, them or your marketing department, oh wait, don't answer that.
- nailer 8y agoIt's de rigeur for bad businesses. Especially considering many gsuite users are paying customers.
- nailer 8y agoReplying to self: judging from the voting here people on HN have a poor view of business. I'll point out Stripe or most smaller tech companies as an example of listening to customer feedback and doing something about it.
- Freak_NL 8y agoThe folks at Google aren't idiots. They now that there is a vocal minority of complainers, most of whom will accept the new UI after a week or two. For a customer base the size of GMail, placating every complaint is just not in the interest of their business. That is one of the downsides of dominant marker players. Microsoft had the same leverage with Windows 10 (this round of complaints feels similar, although the focus is different). People who don't like it should use IMAP/SMTP (until GMail shuts that down), or vote with their wallet and go somewhere else. The world could do with more competition for email.
- abainbridge 8y agoAgreed, but what do Google get out of making the new version? The biggest negative business impact for them is that the new version makes talented developers less likely to want to work there. When Gmail first came out, it was breath of fresh air. It showed how to do email right. I remember wishing that I worked a company that could create such brilliant software.
- Nicksil 8y agoIt just force-updated for me. I had clicked the "wait two weeks" (or however many weeks) prompts, delaying the inevitable, but had thought I would at least still be able to click the "revert" button as soon as the change occurred. There was no button this time. So I clicked through to the "simple HTML" version as soon as the link presented itself at the bottom of the fancy new splash screen and have been a little less unhappy ever since. Now I just need to quit talking about it and finally finish my move out of Google's house. Everything else is out except for the email. The damn email.
- nemothekid 8y agoMy biggest problem with the new UI is the font. Roboto, or whatever font they are using, is terrible to read a lot of small text. I wish the font could be set to Helvetica or disable web fonts for Gmail.
- throwaway2048 8y agoublock/umatrix can disable web fonts for a domain.
- nazri1 8y agoWith the old UI I don’t have to scroll down to see the labels that I frequently go to. The new UI uses a heavier font that the labels list takes up more vertical space than they used to which is becoming a nag for me.
- zeusk 8y agoI just switched to Outlook.com and basic HTML mode for when I HAVE to use my old email.
- partycoder 8y agoGmail's user base = billions of people. A few hundred upset users can be misleading.
- felixgallo 8y agoOr, representative.
- partycoder 8y agoThis only means many users are upset. But even if they were 100,000, that would be a small fraction of the user base and you could still say the user base is either indifferent or satisfied with the change.
- Nicksil 8y ago>But even if they were 100,000 That would still be representative. A sample. I don't understand your argument.
- _ttg 8y agoA sample but a self-selected, louder sample. I would bet the overwhelming majority of users are indifferent to the change.
- system2 8y agoSimply put, normies count. Not us. Even if 1% (few million users?) are upset now, this wouldn't make google change their mind serving 99% unaware users.
- Nicksil 8y agoI don't understand. We (at least the folks who are unhappy with this update) are the users of the application. The complaints pertain to issues which affect both "normies" and "us" alike. If I observe an unresponsive/lagging behavior, it isn't because I may be more technically inclined, but because my brain detected an unexpected delay between my input and the outcome.
- alphakappa 8y agoEveryone hates UI changes. Wait 6 months and it will be the new normal.
- itake 8y agoSeriously, every time big company does large UX change, there is a post like this asking how to revert. Sources: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=10200320024496476 https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=1020032... Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8w03ms/is_it_possible_to_permanently_keep_old_reddit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8w03ms/is_it_poss...
- inpdx 8y agoOld reddit is still available and still better.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoI think this response often comes up in response to complaints about UI changes. Sometimes it’s a valid response, and people are just being resistant to change. Sometimes the changes are genuinely bad. The point is - the fact that people complain about everything doesn’t mean that some of the things they complain about aren’t legitimate problems!
- Freak_NL 8y agoLegitimate or not, what the user perceives as problematic may make total sense for the business providing the service. Google (Facebook, Reddit, etc.) is not a non-profit or government agency that acts in the interests of the people. It's a business operating on capitalist principles, so profit is, by design, their main drive (of the business as such, not necessarily of the individuals who work there). Somehow we insist on treating these mega-corporations as if they are always beneficent, and anytime one of them does something that doesn't align the user's and business interests, there is a storm of complaints like this. Sure, it would be nice if a mega-corporation always acted in its user's interests, but that's not how the current system works. Ideally, we'd end up with a system where you just pay a company to host your on-line end-points, keeping all data and the software you use personal, and you have the option to move to a competitor at a moment's notice, keeping all identifiers (like an email address now). Where just not there yet.
- nailer 8y agoFor me it's not about look but speed: Gmail simply can't put text in the compose box as fast as I can type it. Gmail is the slowest web app I use. From what I've read Google, for whatever reason, don't care about Gmail perf and use slow deprecated APIs in Firefox and Edge even when faster ones are available. The DOM looks like garbage with massive amounts of unnecessary elements. It's basically the opposite pf everything every Chrome Developer Advocate says about web performance.
- krrrh 8y agoI switched to using the macOS mail app for the first time in years, and was kind of blown away by how fast it was. Native apps still have their place.
- Nicksil 8y agoDon't get me started about the compose box (really any text box with their "rich text" implementation). It is terrible. Like you said, the input alone has crazy latency. But the logic built into their formatting sends me through the roof most of the time. Don't want bold text? Too bad, you're getting bold text because you enabled bold text one time about 10 minutes ago. Even though you disabled bold text, like, a second after you enabled it, you just now hit the enter key so you get bold text! And don't you even think about returning to non-formatted typing after you just pasted-in some text which may or may not have had formatting applied even though you did the very special kind of paste where plain, non-formatted text is supposed to be rendered! Clearly, it has affected me.
- ttty 8y agoIt's so sloooooooooow
- ryanbertrand 8y agoI don’t mind it. What are the biggest issues?
- shakna 8y agoLoad speed. It adds ~5sec per action in the interface.
- flattone 8y agoOne response I have is that it was vaguely perfect approx 6 years ago. And it's just clinkier feeling in terms of responsiveness and visual apace efficiently . . And probably a better point is to say: I might be wrong at the analysis level/efficiency numbers. . But if my brain is stressed out from the change enough that I'm laying here on a Saturday ranting and getting worked up on this apparently along with others here, prioritising this over normal leisure & conversing /entertaining out of town guests... There may be some unnamed metric here that isn't measured and represents a negative impact on users?
- cycrutchfield 8y agoPlease Google, let us keep Inbox
- Xunxi 8y agoI prefer email clients to web-mail. I have multiple email addresses so I use email clients to manage my accounts; contacts, calendar, meeting schedule lookups, view multiple mail accounts, reply from multiple mail accounts, less passwords to remember etc. Even though I'm using something else, Eudora still rocks by the way. http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/the-eudora-email-client-source-code/ http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/the-eudora-email-client...
- dreamcompiler 8y agoSame thing happened with Google maps a couple of years ago. They changed the UI to one a lot less functional, gave users an option to use the old UI for a while, then took it away. Now we're stuck with gmaps that are much worse than they used to be. Product managers at Google (and everywhere else) don't get promoted for leaving good products alone.
- djsumdog 8y agoThe layout takes up more of the screen, which I kinda like, but my issue was always how terrible terribly slow it is now. It's so laggy, compared to competitors like Here and OSM. The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version. Google Maps on Android is almost entirely unusable now. It's so god damn slow on my Sony Z5c running Lineage. The combination of Maps and Google Services updates has thrown any type of efficiency out the window. New releases should use less memory and be faster, especially if they do the exact same god damn thing! Google doesn't care, because they expect users to migrate to newer phones every two years. I don't want to generate more e-waste, have repaired several things on my phone several times and don't want to just consume consume consume. It'd be nice if there was some company to take up that space and create more tools that run on older devices, but unfortunately there'd be no real way to make money at it; no one is demanding it em mass.
- LeoPanthera 8y ago> The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version. This isn't how Apple works. They make money from hardware sales - so there is a native app version of Apple Maps for both iOS and macOS. (And, with the recent updates, it is pretty damn great.)
- tehwebguy 8y agoApple already released a JS SDK for Maps: https://developer.apple.com/maps/mapkitjs/ https://developer.apple.com/maps/mapkitjs/
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- fh973 8y agoThe mail part might be fine, but they completely broke the editing functionality of the task list. No more merging/splitting items.
- mabedan 8y ago“Everything is round” The only way to settle this one, is to wait for one of the following groups of people to go extinct: - those who like round things - those who like rectangles
- begriffs 8y agoWhy not use a desktop/mobile mail client of your choice to access gmail over open protocols? Then they can clown up the web UI all they want and it won't matter to you.
- system2 8y agoIf you are using multiple machines, your desktop client will be a huge headache to set up each. Business computers at work have outlook, but personally, I cannot use the client(s) for my 6+ separate computers. Browser email is the way to go.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoMmm I’m sure you accept that’s an extreme minority requirement. Anyway, what’s painful about setting up multiple clients?
- system2 8y agoGigabytes of data per account. Sync issues. If you are asking, you probably never suffered from these.
- begriffs 8y ago> a huge headache to set up OK, but "huge headache" is somewhat exaggerated. For many clients, gmail connection settings are a preset option, where you enter a username and application password. It's a one-time configuration. > outlook My condolences. > my 6+ separate computers You are perhaps an outlier? But I can see how it's a hassle in your particular case.
- system2 8y agoOutlook type of software download all of the emails. Which means gigabytes per account. I use multiple google emails (gsuite), and this makes things harder.
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- prepend 8y agoI don’t understand why gmail ties their functionality to skins so much in gmail. This is the third time they’ve forced a UI change for no functional reason, just that they wanted easier maintenance. I really got bugged in 2011 when they got rid of their terminal theme [0]. I don’t think this is a UI issue, I think it’s just poor design where a skin would somehow not perform well. It seems pretty easy to maintain different simple skins or to provide an API. [0] https://productforums.google.com/forum/?noredirect=true#!topic/gmail/k8IpCevPTpI https://productforums.google.com/forum/?noredirect=true#!top...
- dschuler 8y agoScrolling the list of emails is very choppy on Safari, and works on Chrome and Firefox. How annoying. We're entering a new browser monoculture where something only has to work on Chrome :/ I think it's a good time to test out a few self-hosted email clients, perhaps storing emails on a mail server that retrieves incoming mail from gmail, and sends out via gmail as well to avoid the authentication/blacklisting/spam filtering hassles. RainLoop looks pretty good for a web client. Any suggestions on clients or mail servers (only to fetch mail from gmail or outlook)?
- diminish 8y agoon firefox, it doesn't open the message, when i click on it after search. i had to revert back to html.
- alexnewman 8y agoI want them to not kill Inbox!
- JamesAdir 8y agoThe UI is horrible and it has already been discussed in many places, but to me the slowness is the no.1 problem. I thought it was just a hiccup when they had it on optional mode, but now it's plain slow. I've tried on different connections and different browsers and they all seem to generate the same result. Super slow loading times of the interface and the emails. I still remember when gmail was the fastest kid on the block or when they've optimized chrome for a faster gmail. But now I'm really looking into alternatives. Last week I've switched from chrome to firefox because of the synced login thing, and gmail will be a bit more complex to change instantly but I'll surely find a way.
- themodelplumber 8y agoMan, last week a friend asked me to set him up with an email account through Dreamhost shared hosting. My first reaction was "who does this anymore" but after 10 minutes passed (he already had a website there) I was sending him IMAP server information and thinking, "I have got to move on something like this, I'll bet it's 200% faster than current GMail." It's not going to be a GSuite-level toolset for him, of course, but wow, simple email like that is a huge portion of my personal use case.
- binarymax 8y agoI've done the same. IMAP is great and in the worst case many registrars use round cube for webmail, which is quite decent.
- m_mueller 8y agoIsn’t spam the main problem nowadays? I find a hosted mail unusable without some spamfilter in front that is either costly or comes with your corporate accounts.
- Kovah 8y agoI don't think so. I was using a selfhosted email for years and never had any problems with spam. You just need to configure your email services to use some DNS block lists like those: zen.spamhaus.org bl.spamcop.net and so on. Also, setup DMARC and SPF entries for your domain. https://dmarc.org/ https://dmarc.org/
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoI don’t consider there to be anything technically interesting here, neither with regard to design. Flag and move on. As others have mentioned: a vocal minority always dislike UI changes, but in six months it will be the new normal. One thing I will say though, it’s starting to look like we’ve run out of good UI changes and what we’re served up now is the refried beans / day old reheated leftovers of UI design. Anyway, the elephant in the room is: move away from Gmail / free email services. Email, for me, is way too important to have no paid support.
- inlined 8y ago>> Email, for me, is way too important to have no paid support Paid support (and other features) is $1.99/mo. https://one.google.com/about https://one.google.com/about
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoOh! I didn't realise that, wow! Well, that's interesting. Hmmmmmmmmm.
- bad_user 8y agoNot available in my country. Also, paid support is just one piece of the puzzle. More important is to not be locked in. So buy your own domain and if you really want Gmail then pay for G Suite.
- thinkingemote 8y agoFrom the guidelines: "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- miles 8y agoIf you've got a reasonably fast connection and machine, the "load basic HTML (for slow connections)" link at bottom right disappears almost instantly when loading the Gmail web interface. You can use this direct link to the basic HTML version: http://mail.google.com/mail/h/ http://mail.google.com/mail/h/ but Google's not quite done with you yet, presenting this message along with two buttons: Do you really want to use HTML Gmail? You’re about to use a version of Gmail designed for slower connections and legacy browsers. To get all of Gmail’s features, including inbox categories, images, and quick actions, please use the latest version of Gmail (recommended). Take me to latest Gmail | I'd like to use HTML Gmail Selecting the latter button allows you to enjoy an interface from a simpler time.
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- codedokode 8y agoAlso, HTML version works even with JS disabled.
- djsumdog 8y agoIn 2012 I switched back to running my own e-mail. I realize there are reliability issues sending stuff out to Google/Microsoft (and yes, I have the correct DKIM, SPF and DMARC records), but I'm still happier running my own. I use Thunderbird and Roundcube, but I could also use Evolution if I wanted to or Microsoft Mail on my Windows machine or even fire up Squirlmail in a docker container.
- system2 8y agoOvercomplicated for an average user. Doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population unfortunately.
- stonogo 8y agoGood thing he posted it to hackernews then, which is full of people to whom it CAN apply.
- Freak_NL 8y agoFrankly, neither do the complaints about the new UI voiced here.
- michaelmrose 8y agoYou don't think anyone uses browsers other than Chrome or wants to access mail faster than 7 seconds to load contents?
- Freak_NL 8y agoI think these people exist, and that their complaints are valid. I also think that the percentage of people who complain about it is not significant enough for Google to perceive this as more than a minor public relations issue. 1‰ of GMail's users complaining effectively means that a lot of people are miffed, but it may well be that this is totally acceptable and expected as far as Google is concerned.
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- sandov 8y agoThat's what we get for still using gmail in 2018. I'm migrating to paid email next month.
- _ttg 8y agoAm I blind or what? I have not noticed a single change to my account, not at least in the last 2 weeks. Is there a screenshot of said changes I can check?
- vmware513 8y agoI'm a big fun of the latest GMail and of the modern Google Map. I think, their changes are usually based on thorough UX research. It is normal, there are a strong minority, who cannot get used to new user interfaces and cannot accept changes... Luckily there are alternative services, so they can use something else. ;)
- realusername 8y agoThey are better UX-wise yes but they are also much slower, that's my problem with it. I don't really care to have fancy animations if it takes 5 more seconds to load and 3 more seconds when I click on something. The new Google Maps is bad enough that I use only the phone app now.
- symlinkk 8y agoDo you have specific examples? Everything is instantaneous for me.
- realusername 8y agoJust loading the empty Google maps page (just https://maps.google.com https://maps.google.com) takes at least 5 seconds for me. During that time, it's doing so much stuff in the background that it makes the input on the left lag, so during that time, you realistically cannot do much, otherwise you risk to mistype your search. Every Zoom/Unzoom animation is lagging a lot, the problem is they added that everywhere to make it fancier: - When you click on a result - when you click on the arrows on the destination screen - when you enter a destination - when you click on another type of transport (car, public transport...) So all those actions are lagging because of that. It's probably because they only spent time to optimise it in Chrome but I don't care, I prefer to stop to use GMaps than to use Chrome.
- Mystrl 8y agoMight just be you. It loads in under a second for me.
- erikb 8y agoThe thing is that someone saying "I don't like the new UI" doesn't say anything. Always when you change something that more than 10 people use at least one person will be unhappy with a change. What they hopefully do is check the metrics, e.g. of how many people switch to desktop mail clients and basic html view. And honestly the new UI doesn't disrupt my workflow that much. You can like or not like the roundedness or that it got slower, but the workflow can stay almost the same. Therefore I'd say the current change is at least better then when they switched to teh Google-plus-everything mode a few years ago and fucked up all processes and all static links.
- xkcd-sucks 8y agoSo the most elite software organization in the world could have made it even shittier, but they didn't. They probably consulted the Abuser's Handbook to find that you have to boil the frog slowly. Clearly they did check the metrics for users switching to the old gmail interface, because they removed the option to revert.
- adavidoaiei 8y agoI have the same desire, the new gmail user interface is annoying.
- sergiotapia 8y agoThe app has become unbearable slow with no tangible benefit to me as an end user. I would revert to simple gmail in a heartbeat.
- enriquto 8y agoyou can still use the pure html interface which is perfectly functional and extremely fast
- bsimpson 8y agoSpeaking personally (I happen to work at Google, but not on mail): The combinatorics of supporting multiple versions of a product get expensive very quickly. It's the same reason that web platform changes now affect evergreen browsers directly (even with the occasional breaking change), rather than introducing more modes like quirks and strict. Every variant you introduce grows the surface area for bugs and security issues, and adds at least one more case to consider when implementing new functionality. Even if you froze the featureset in the old UI, you'd still need to maintain compatibility with it as the backend evolves. It's not as simple as just leaving the old codebase running on a server somewhere. If Google wanted to invest in multiple mail products, it wouldn't have end-of-lifed Inbox.
- JoshuaAshton 8y agoI mean... if it takes 23 seconds to load on my machine, and the old version took less than 3, maybe its not worth maintaining the new version to begin with. Just a thought.
- hoffs 8y agoIf it takes 23 seconds to load you definitely have an issue and not new Gmail.
- bad_user 8y agoI disagree, if it took 3 seconds to load and now it takes 23, given mostly the same features, it means the software is broken, not the hardware it runs on.
- joshuamorton 8y agoI think the point is moreso that 23 seconds is abnormal, not the experience of most users, and therefore likely either not consistent for you (maybe your WiFi connection dropped) or due to some wierd configuration on your end. (Technically speaking, I work on Gmail, but unrelated to this)
- phreack 8y agoThe symbolic language they've added was the last straw for me. Gmail is the last Google product I'm using and I'm now working on getting away from it. I really can't tell what each button does now without a label, and I've lost a few mails due to it.
- system2 8y agoThe average user doesn't even know what SSL is, yet we are discussing round boxes in Gmail and 2+ second delay. Literally, no one cares, google knows this too. Yet another meaningless google discussion.
- Simulacra 8y agoI’m using the standard HTML mode. The new scheme is just awful and too confusing.
- deevolution 8y agoQuit whinning
- gushie 8y agoI don't mind the UI so much, besides the speed. My issue is that sometimes it just doesn't work. I click on an email to open it and nothing happens, even if I wait a while. I end up having to reload the page. It's somewhat frustrating.
- akras14 8y agoI call it Death by Redesign - https://www.alexkras.com/death-by-redesign/ https://www.alexkras.com/death-by-redesign/
- kyriakos 8y agoWhile at is please KEEP Inbox. I went back to Gmail now that Inbox is being discontinued and its like going back to stone age.
- mehrdadn 8y agoNot sure how many people have noticed, but there are 3 Gmail UIs that I've been seeing in the past few weeks. One is the entirely-new UI, one is the classic UI, and one is a subtly-modified version of the classic UI. It's hard to distinguish between the last two, but one way to tell is if you see "Sent" instead of the usual "Sent Mail". For some reason I seem to be switched back-and-forth between the two occasionally. I'm confused why they even improved that UI though, since it seems they want to shift everyone to the new UI. And of course I hate the new UI. The information density is low and the graphics are (e.g. the Important and Star markers) visibly blurry under non-96 DPI.
- microwavecamera 8y agoI can't stand the new gmail. It's ridiculously slow and doesn't do anything new. The trick I've been using to get around having to use the new interface is using the mobile interface instead. Here's the link: https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp https://mail.google.com/mail/mu/mp You might have to log out completely. It works consistently when I open it in a private window on Firefox 62. Also you'll probably get a prompt to install the mobile app, just click the "not interested" link at the bottom of the page. Your mileage may vary.
- carlospwk 8y agoThis is one of those things where I'm baffled by how strongly people feel about the re-design. In fact it doesn't even feel like a 're-design' to me since the layout is more or less identical to the previous version. I've had zero issues with using the updated look and I actually enjoy that it looks more modern now. If you don't like it, why not just switch to an actual email client and forget about the web interface?
- oliveshell 8y agoThe issue that I (and countless others) have is that the new interface is agonizingly slow to use. I could give a hoot about the redesign, but the fact that it now regularly takes 5-10 seconds to switch to my “sent” or “drafts” folders— an action which happened practically instantly in 2008– is unacceptable and has prompted me to begin migrating to another email service. I know I could use Thunderbird— which I used to— but I’ve come to rely on the web app for access away from my own computers. I’m preliminarily quite happy with Fastmail.
- thinkingemote 8y agoThe main thing for me is that the themes have not been updated for 7 years, and they only work by applying a background image now.
- gabrielblack 8y ago- It's slow - It's ugly - It's a bad UX I am so disappointed that this one is the first complaint about a software I'm writing after Windows ME. So, a "welcome" to GMail ME. Please, Google correct it or give us back the previous version.
- NikolaeVarius 8y agoIve been debating a full move to protonmail. Or is fastmail the big current alternative?
- wetpaws 8y agoI ended up reverting to basic html mode. It took some time to get used to, but everything is miles faster.
- Tharkun 8y agoIf this makes even one user switch away from gmail, that'll be a win in my book. I hope Google continues treating their users and products like garbage, until none are left.
- jraph 8y agoPeople who switch mail providers: maybe use your own domain with the new provider, so you don't have to change your email address next time.
- desperatelover 8y agoIdk but I always hate on the new redesign until I get used to it. The only exception being reddit - still using the old reddit design
- williamstein 8y agoThe main gmail.com now forces me to use the horrible new design. However, I manage a for-pay Google apps domain (@sagemath.com) for my company, and it still lets me use the classic look. Does anybody know if I will also be forced to switch to the new horrible design for my for-pay Google apps domain? The new Gmail design actually gives me a pretty intense sense of motion sickness -- I feel I have a genuine accessibility issue with it and really hate it, and will have to consider migrating off of gmail if they don't provide their classic UI.
- radicalgold 8y agoI was so used to the old design, it was more functional to me
- robben1234 8y agoLet people have Inbox and old Gmail. Why do we as users need to live through every time when Google decides to change for the sake of change?