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If you have 40M users I suspect the annual cost from the registrar is very small part of the budget. Get a registrar where you don't have to deal with a phone o
by belorn 8y ago
If you have 40M users I suspect the annual cost from the registrar is very small part of the budget. Get a registrar where you don't have to deal with a phone operator.
I work in this industry and it's a very clear separation between bulk registrars and those that maintain fewer but high value domain names. The latter usually give you a personal contact person to call and work proactively to deal with threats to companies' domain names and trade marks. I don't think I have ever heard of a domain being abruptly suspended by such a registrar.
The cost is usually 5x-10x that of the cheapest registrars so there is naturally a balance to be struck, and as I work in this industry I might be a bit biased. However the damage when waiting on the TTL when registries update NS records sounds very substantial when they first suspend and later restore a domain name in what sound as a very reckless behavior.
- taf2 8y agoWhich register do you recommend?
- bqe 8y agoMarkMonitor is what Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft and other huge companies use. They don't take small accounts, though.
- Alupis 8y ago> Google Google is a registrar themselves... Do you mean they use someone else for their own domains?
- Thaxll 8y agoGoogle uses markmonitor: Domain Name: GOOGLE.COM Registry Domain ID: 2138514_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.markmonitor.com Registrar URL: http://www.markmonitor.com Updated Date: 2018-02-21T18:36:40Z Creation Date: 1997-09-15T04:00:00Z Registry Expiry Date: 2020-09-14T04:00:00Z Registrar: MarkMonitor Inc. Registrar IANA ID: 292 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abusecomplaints@markmonitor.com
- mahesh_rm 8y agoIt probably looks like what Zoho should use..
- Operyl 8y agoCorrect, MarkMonitor is a _huge_ business. Alphabet has had an account there for much longer than they have been a Registrar under Google name.
- solarkraft 8y agoHow exactly was that story of a man owning Google.com through Google domains for a few minutes possible, then?
- tomnipotent 8y agoThey're a reseller like everyone else. If I'm not mistaken they actually use eNom for customers buying domains on any of their platforms (though not for their own domains).
- Operyl 8y agoDoesn't seem to be true, for my domain registered at Google: Registrar: Google Inc. Registrar IANA ID: 895 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: registrar-abuse@google.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8772376466 Verify yourself at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids... Zoho is Zoho Corporation Private Limited IANA ID: 3803
- stephenhuey 8y agoI get emails for a friend's domain that was originally registered through Google Apps (G Suite) many years ago, and I see emails with "enom" in them going back all those years.
- Operyl 8y agoThat’s before Google domains hit off
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- londons_explore 8y agoThey're a reseller for some TLD's, and a registrar for others.
- tomnipotent 8y agoWasn't aware they'd finally taken the plunge. Thanks for the correction.
- ttul 8y agoCloudflare Secure Registrar. Few people know that Cloudflare operates a registrar, but they do. The pricing is $enterprise, as it should be: "Cloudflare Registrar is the highest level of registrar security. It protects your organization from domain hijacking with high-touch, on and off-line verification of any changes to your Registrar account. Cloudflare is an ICANN accredited registrar providing secure domain registration for high-profile domains."
- BrandoElFollito 8y agoGandi.net, located in France with strong privacy. And a good API (the new version)
- svembu1 8y agoYes, that is good advice. We are reviewing all our processes about domain registries right now. Major lesson learned, and I would encourage other companies to think this through and learn from our experience today.
- ttul 8y agoCloudflare Secure Registrar - I know you guys probably in some ways compete with Cloudflare, but maybe give them a call. Or for that matter become your own registrar and get into the corporate registrar business. With this experience under your belt, no doubt you'll crush it!
- dogecoinbase 8y agoFWIW, CF's registrar is nice, but also represents an extreme form of lock-in on the part of Cloudflare -- the registrar subscription is specifically tied to your enterprise plan and will be terminated if you are not using other CF products.
- dknecht 8y agoThat is not the case anymore. We would still allow you to continue to purchase just registrar.
- dogecoinbase 8y agoOh, fantastic! I'll let my former colleagues know, assuming no one else has reached out to them (this was a pretty specific piece of feedback we had re registrar, so great to hear that it's changed).
- ethanwillis 8y agoI learned this the hard way just a few months ago with Namecheap. Those guys dumped all of my personal information to some people (my name, address, phone number, etc.). I have kids in my home and all they offered me was $100 in Namecheap credit, which I didn't accept out of principle. I spoke with a lawyer and the privacy laws in the U.S. seem to make it not even worth going after them. Registrars basically can do what they want and it's hard to hold them accountable.
- wafflesindeed 8y agoHey mate, I've always been a bit perplexed as to how registrar's are created. How could I become a registrar? Any advise or resources to explore this very open question would be wonderful. Cheers J
- caffeinewriter 8y agoBasically, you have to go through the ICANN accreditation process, which is documented here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/accreditation-2012-02-25-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/accreditation-2012-02-... The cheaper, and easier way, if you're looking to start selling domains with a lower barrier to entry (but less control over how much you pay/how you sell your domains) is to find a white-label reseller registrar.
- MichaelApproved 8y ago> I've always been a bit perplexed as to how registrar's are created. How could I become a registrar? In all that time of being perplexed, you never thought to do a simple Google search? https://www.google.com/search?q=how+registrar%27s+are+created https://www.google.com/search?q=how+registrar%27s+are+create...
- wafflesindeed 8y agoThanks for your response Micheal. That's an interesting website. I'll take a look!
- MichaelApproved 8y agoAre you a bot?
- belorn 8y agoThe first aspect is that every* TLD has it own registry and system. For the generic ones you got ICANN accreditation process, but there is also a bunch of registrar reseller that act as a middle man between ICANN and other registrars. Usually most processes involve some form of capital investment and/or technical capability. Country specific TLD can either be easier or much much harder depending on which country. * Not really everyone.
- henrygrew 8y agowhich registrars are these?
- belorn 8y agoI don't like to give recommendations since it either mean promoting the company I work at which just feels like mixing professional and private, or promoting competitors which just feel worse. Instead I prefer giving general advice on what to look for when picking a registrar. Having a personal contact at the registrar for example might sound unnecessary, but it means that a person at the registrar should know the company involved and the impact of the domain or domains before any serious action like suspension are made. In large and bulk like registrar this isn't the case and as such no one likely knew what Zoho.com was or how many users it would effect. It was likely just an other $10 annual fee among millions of other domains, and as such it is very easy to just suspend and forget and later try fix any issues if those are raised. Cheap and quick solution but very costly if the owner values the domain name above that of $10.