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This is a gold standard for what a platform should be. An individual sells a product at a one-off price to a entrepreneur who then is able to make a living off

This is a gold standard for what a platform should be. An individual sells a product at a one-off price to a entrepreneur who then is able to make a living off of it. There is no 30% take in perpetuity with regulations that slowly chip away at margins. It's just one person selling another an honest opportunity to make money. And as they scale, everyone in the consumption chain benefits -- more sales, more businesses and more places to eat easily for the end customer.

RangerScience 8y ago
This occurs today. All the software tools I use are a one-off price for a forever license, and then a subscription to updates. There's also the argument for renting, where those wagons went unused during the day: if I rent, notionally, what I am renting can be made cheaper by the owners renting to others when I don't need it. But, this does not work well in all markets.
- contingencies 8y ago
  BREAKING: Linux version upgrades still free. - @NeckbeardHacker ... from http://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup http://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup
blt 8y ago
rent-seeking is too seductive to the capitalist
- adventured 8y ago
  Overly aggressive rent-seeking presents an opportunity to other capitalists. Throughout industrial history fat margins and egregious royalties are frequently sweet targets for disruption. Every day, Spotify goes to work looking for a way to route around or limit the obnoxious music cartel. They'll never stop pursuing that. Just as Netflix did before them with the movie industry cartel. The old movie industry ended up creating its biggest competitive nightmare.
Eridrus 8y ago
This is nonsense. By what criteria, besides "I like it" is "An individual sells a product at a one-off price to a entrepreneur who then is able to make a living off of it." the ideal form of business? Adobe went from this model to SaaS, and their user growth has taken off, because it turns out paying the full cost of the software in a front-loaded fashion is really expensive. I remember pirating visual studio when I was a child, because it cost thousands of dollars that I could not afford, but these days it is free because platform providers have realised that increasing developer share is more important, and now finance their platform via the 30% take.
- Dylan16807 8y ago
  Microsoft doesn't make their money off a percentage take at all.
  - Retric 8y ago
    That’s the basic model for the XBox with Microsoft selling it for a loss at the beginning and making it up from a cut of software and peripheral sales. The App Store’s 5% cut is not currently a major revenue stream for them, but it’s still revenue and would be a big deal for most companies. https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-store-taking-5-cut-of-all-apps-2018-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-store-taking-5-cut...
    - Dylan16807 8y ago
      XBox is hardware and a completely different thing. > The App Store’s 5% cut is not currently a major revenue stream for them, but it’s still revenue and would be a big deal for most companies. Do you have a citation for how much money it is? And it's only a big deal if it's larger than expenses, which I'll believe but not assume.
      - Dylan16807 8y ago
        I'm curious why the downvotes. To be clear, I searched through some microsoft financial info to try to figure out what app store revenue is, but I couldn't find the number. It's very genuine curiosity.
Arn_Thor 8y ago
No regulations, huh? Terrific, I love salmonella
- moate 8y ago
  I also love when my public water supply becomes a dumping ground for all the industrial waste created in the production of this super simple wonder-product. There's a reason Ron Swanson's brand of Libertarian idealism was used as a punchline so often.
joesb 8y ago
Apple/Google maintains AppStore server, it maintains user review, it filter fraud and malicious apps. Wagon factory don't give a shit if you break your wagon. They don't care if someone bought it to create lure kids to eat rat poison. The analogy doesn't even make sense. Go ahead and write your app for other platform on the internet. Or go ahead and sells your Android APK directly on your website.

RangerScience 8y ago

This occurs today. All the software tools I use are a one-off price for a forever license, and then a subscription to updates. There's also the argument for renting, where those wagons went unused during the day: if I rent, notionally, what I am renting can be made cheaper by the owners renting to others when I don't need it. But, this does not work well in all markets.

contingencies 8y ago
BREAKING: Linux version upgrades still free. - @NeckbeardHacker ... from http://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup http://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup

blt 8y ago

rent-seeking is too seductive to the capitalist

adventured 8y ago
Overly aggressive rent-seeking presents an opportunity to other capitalists. Throughout industrial history fat margins and egregious royalties are frequently sweet targets for disruption. Every day, Spotify goes to work looking for a way to route around or limit the obnoxious music cartel. They'll never stop pursuing that. Just as Netflix did before them with the movie industry cartel. The old movie industry ended up creating its biggest competitive nightmare.

Eridrus 8y ago

This is nonsense. By what criteria, besides "I like it" is "An individual sells a product at a one-off price to a entrepreneur who then is able to make a living off of it." the ideal form of business? Adobe went from this model to SaaS, and their user growth has taken off, because it turns out paying the full cost of the software in a front-loaded fashion is really expensive. I remember pirating visual studio when I was a child, because it cost thousands of dollars that I could not afford, but these days it is free because platform providers have realised that increasing developer share is more important, and now finance their platform via the 30% take.

Dylan16807 8y ago
Microsoft doesn't make their money off a percentage take at all.
- Retric 8y ago
  That’s the basic model for the XBox with Microsoft selling it for a loss at the beginning and making it up from a cut of software and peripheral sales. The App Store’s 5% cut is not currently a major revenue stream for them, but it’s still revenue and would be a big deal for most companies. https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-store-taking-5-cut-of-all-apps-2018-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-store-taking-5-cut...
  - Dylan16807 8y ago
    XBox is hardware and a completely different thing. > The App Store’s 5% cut is not currently a major revenue stream for them, but it’s still revenue and would be a big deal for most companies. Do you have a citation for how much money it is? And it's only a big deal if it's larger than expenses, which I'll believe but not assume.
    - Dylan16807 8y ago
      I'm curious why the downvotes. To be clear, I searched through some microsoft financial info to try to figure out what app store revenue is, but I couldn't find the number. It's very genuine curiosity.

Arn_Thor 8y ago

No regulations, huh? Terrific, I love salmonella

moate 8y ago
I also love when my public water supply becomes a dumping ground for all the industrial waste created in the production of this super simple wonder-product. There's a reason Ron Swanson's brand of Libertarian idealism was used as a punchline so often.

joesb 8y ago

Apple/Google maintains AppStore server, it maintains user review, it filter fraud and malicious apps. Wagon factory don't give a shit if you break your wagon. They don't care if someone bought it to create lure kids to eat rat poison. The analogy doesn't even make sense. Go ahead and write your app for other platform on the internet. Or go ahead and sells your Android APK directly on your website.