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Two points about nearsightedness: 1. If it isn't a serious problem for you, don't fix it. You were initially meant to be a hunter-gatherer, not an office emplo

Two points about nearsightedness: 1. If it isn't a serious problem for you, don't fix it. You were initially meant to be a hunter-gatherer, not an office employee. Your eyes' resting focus point is about 6 meters away (~20ft, this is where "20/20 sight" comes from). If you need to spend the entire day looking at something that is 1 meter away, it's normal and expected for your eyes to readjust. 2. Don't blame it on yourself. It's mostly genes. Some people can spend 15 hours a day in front of a computer, and still see like hawks. For others, reading a book 30 minutes a day can be enough to cause severe nearsightedness.

TheBarton 8y ago
Is there a valid reason to "treat" nearsightedness if it isn't a problem? I never cared about mine. A few times I tried somebody's glasses and surely enough I could see much better at a distance. But it's not something I need in daily life.
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- madeuptempacct 8y ago
  Uh, what are you going to do when the zombies come? Or the Russians? Or the Nazis on the moon (Antarctica?)?
- georgeecollins 8y ago
  Do you drive a car or a plane?
  - tdsamardzhiev 8y ago
    Exactly. I cannot drive without glasses, and glasses (expensive ones, mind you) cause me pain and a tickling sensation. This isn't much of a problem for me, as I drive 20 minutes a day. If I were a professional driver though, I'd definitely go for a surgery.
- arcticfox 8y ago
  There's no reason if you don't like looking at things in the distance. I happen to like doing that.
throwawayperson 8y ago
This is just so false and uninformed, couple of dacades earlier in China people with glasses on were seen as a rarity, meant he's not a peasant. The current myopia near-crisis in China is clearly a sociological one, the gaokao is every Chinese teen’s only and foremost task，and they live their lives in drab & carmped concrete forests，don’t have idyllic backyards and weekend outings. Teens are required to sit in cramped classrooms (we don't change room every course) more than 10 hours a day 6 days or more a week,the already meager physical and art classes (1 class a week each at best) were routinely canceled, to do the countless exam preparation and simulation, to get them to become the ultimate exam-taking machines, the higher score the students get in the gaokao, the more famous their school, teachers, principal will be，and yeah more money. Beware Americans, this is what happens in China where there are no affirmative action or anything, pure meritocratic admissions. https://www.google.com/search?q=Maotanchang+Middle+School https://www.google.com/search?q=Maotanchang+Middle+School This is also why I alwayes laugh it off at Chinese's high GRE or IELTS scores,or wharever high scores and statistics, as a fellow Chinese I just know all too well how they got it and it certainly doesn't represent their real level.
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  My first visit to China was in 1999, and glasses were already common back then, especially in the big cities I went to. The way they did eye sight exams at the eye glass shop was horrendous, however (my friend got a pair while we were there). It really is kids studying too much, I agree, but it could have also been TV back then and other things.
  - throwawayperson 8y ago
    That's kind of a survivorship bias, and again uninformed. People in China aren't allowed to move to cities freely especially back then, there are hukous to bind you to your birthplace, back then there were even police in Shenzhen dedicated to rounding up migrant workers (so called "blindly-moving migrants") and sending them back. What I want to say is that you likely went to some major cities and observed people there, without realizing that those people are entitled to live there, meaning good chunk of them are well-educated and that education was a privilege you need to fight for, that means dedicated learning. If myopia in China is genetic, then there is a big contradiction: in a generation of teens, those early drop-outs who went to factories and those who were putter around in schools rarely were myopic, yet those who are good academically and skinny had a high rate of myopia.
golergka 8y ago
> Don't blame it on yourself. Do you mean blame as in moral responsibility or as in causality? It's a crucial difference that people miss too often. Of course, suffering guilt over a thing like this is not very productive. But correcting your behaviour, like letting your eyes rest, is still a good idea.
Matrixik 8y ago
Actually it's mostly not genes but your day to day habits and science know from a long time how to reverse it (well, eyes doctors mostly don't know it...): https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/ https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/
- madeuptempacct 8y ago
  This guy is a self-promoter and a fraud. He pushes some "cillary pop" idea that the eyes "pop" into position after looking at far objects for a long time. This has zero scientific evidence. He has refused to come debate a scientist and markets a "secret" method for fixing eyes. In short, I am all for natural eyesight fixes, but this guy is a fraud.
  - walterbell 8y ago
    Which scientist (neurologist? behavioral ophthalmologist?) wants to debate this topic? There are many science paper/study references on his site.
    - madeuptempacct 8y ago
      Why doesn't he get a group of twenty people together, record their progress, and then become a billionaire selling his method? I totally would if I had "the secret". In fact, if anyone wants to fund me to do eye-exercise research, I will quit my job right now.
      - walterbell 8y ago
        There is no method. The blog and videos are public and free. Might be hard to understand for those earning billions of revenue from lenses and frames. Requires time investment to learn basic eye health principles which are well known to vision therapists.
        madeuptempacct 8y ago

TheBarton 8y ago

Is there a valid reason to "treat" nearsightedness if it isn't a problem? I never cared about mine. A few times I tried somebody's glasses and surely enough I could see much better at a distance. But it's not something I need in daily life.

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madeuptempacct 8y ago
Uh, what are you going to do when the zombies come? Or the Russians? Or the Nazis on the moon (Antarctica?)?
georgeecollins 8y ago
Do you drive a car or a plane?
- tdsamardzhiev 8y ago
  Exactly. I cannot drive without glasses, and glasses (expensive ones, mind you) cause me pain and a tickling sensation. This isn't much of a problem for me, as I drive 20 minutes a day. If I were a professional driver though, I'd definitely go for a surgery.
arcticfox 8y ago
There's no reason if you don't like looking at things in the distance. I happen to like doing that.

throwawayperson 8y ago

This is just so false and uninformed, couple of dacades earlier in China people with glasses on were seen as a rarity, meant he's not a peasant. The current myopia near-crisis in China is clearly a sociological one, the gaokao is every Chinese teen’s only and foremost task，and they live their lives in drab & carmped concrete forests，don’t have idyllic backyards and weekend outings. Teens are required to sit in cramped classrooms (we don't change room every course) more than 10 hours a day 6 days or more a week,the already meager physical and art classes (1 class a week each at best) were routinely canceled, to do the countless exam preparation and simulation, to get them to become the ultimate exam-taking machines, the higher score the students get in the gaokao, the more famous their school, teachers, principal will be，and yeah more money. Beware Americans, this is what happens in China where there are no affirmative action or anything, pure meritocratic admissions. https://www.google.com/search?q=Maotanchang+Middle+School https://www.google.com/search?q=Maotanchang+Middle+School This is also why I alwayes laugh it off at Chinese's high GRE or IELTS scores,or wharever high scores and statistics, as a fellow Chinese I just know all too well how they got it and it certainly doesn't represent their real level.

seanmcdirmid 8y ago
My first visit to China was in 1999, and glasses were already common back then, especially in the big cities I went to. The way they did eye sight exams at the eye glass shop was horrendous, however (my friend got a pair while we were there). It really is kids studying too much, I agree, but it could have also been TV back then and other things.
- throwawayperson 8y ago
  That's kind of a survivorship bias, and again uninformed. People in China aren't allowed to move to cities freely especially back then, there are hukous to bind you to your birthplace, back then there were even police in Shenzhen dedicated to rounding up migrant workers (so called "blindly-moving migrants") and sending them back. What I want to say is that you likely went to some major cities and observed people there, without realizing that those people are entitled to live there, meaning good chunk of them are well-educated and that education was a privilege you need to fight for, that means dedicated learning. If myopia in China is genetic, then there is a big contradiction: in a generation of teens, those early drop-outs who went to factories and those who were putter around in schools rarely were myopic, yet those who are good academically and skinny had a high rate of myopia.

golergka 8y ago

> Don't blame it on yourself. Do you mean blame as in moral responsibility or as in causality? It's a crucial difference that people miss too often. Of course, suffering guilt over a thing like this is not very productive. But correcting your behaviour, like letting your eyes rest, is still a good idea.

Matrixik 8y ago

Actually it's mostly not genes but your day to day habits and science know from a long time how to reverse it (well, eyes doctors mostly don't know it...): https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/ https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/

madeuptempacct 8y ago
This guy is a self-promoter and a fraud. He pushes some "cillary pop" idea that the eyes "pop" into position after looking at far objects for a long time. This has zero scientific evidence. He has refused to come debate a scientist and markets a "secret" method for fixing eyes. In short, I am all for natural eyesight fixes, but this guy is a fraud.
- walterbell 8y ago
  Which scientist (neurologist? behavioral ophthalmologist?) wants to debate this topic? There are many science paper/study references on his site.
  - madeuptempacct 8y ago
    Why doesn't he get a group of twenty people together, record their progress, and then become a billionaire selling his method? I totally would if I had "the secret". In fact, if anyone wants to fund me to do eye-exercise research, I will quit my job right now.
    - walterbell 8y ago
      There is no method. The blog and videos are public and free. Might be hard to understand for those earning billions of revenue from lenses and frames. Requires time investment to learn basic eye health principles which are well known to vision therapists.
      - madeuptempacct 8y ago