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Too bad they've now been replaced popups that occur in the same window as the website you're viewing. Is there a name for this new type of popup?
by ihuman 8y ago
Too bad they've now been replaced popups that occur in the same window as the website you're viewing. Is there a name for this new type of popup?
- deleted 8y ago[deleted]
- stormbrew 8y agoThe real scourge at the time was actually pop-unders, which you would never figure out where they came from and saw them potentially hours after visiting the site that produced them. It's honestly an improvement that sites have to obscure their own content (and thus spite their nose to save their face) and nothing else in order to give you intrusive ads. You'll always know what websites don't put value on their own content that way.
- rasz 8y agoWhat do you mean was? popunders are all the rage recently and work great under Chrome. [Reverse Engineering new PopUnder for Chrome 63 on Windows] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFQeimLH1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFQeimLH1c https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveOverflow/comments/84ertx/new_popunder_in_chrome_67_even_works_on_canary_as/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveOverflow/comments/84ertx/new_po...
- Dylan16807 8y agoHeck, popups still work in Chrome if they clickjack. There's no way to entirely disable popups on a site.
- garmaine 8y agoThe browser could just not make any new window as a result of a click in the content area.
- tomxor 8y agoChrome provides many content settings that tend to toggle between "disabled, ask, allow". It should be possible to provide an option for spawning windows even when originating from a user event (although there isn't one currently).
- brennebeck 8y agoAre you saying to have a permission that would ‘disallow, ask, or allow’ me opening new tabs? Because that’s exactly what it sounds like to me.
- feross 8y agoIndeed. Have you seen my site https://theannoyingsite.com/ https://theannoyingsite.com/ ?
- hollerith 8y agoYour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFQeimLH1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFQeimLH1c is a 4.5-hour video, the first 5 minutes of which shows a completely static video track with an audio track of a guy talking slowly.
- rasz 8y agowelcome to reverse engineering
- stormbrew 8y agoEh, it's kind of different when they're literally exploiting something in new versions of browsers that are actively updated and are going to get fixed. Back then it was just supported behaviour and the dominant browser went several years without a major update. Like night and day.
- tomxor 8y agoThe funny thing with these under a tiling window manager, is they turn into pop-sideways-es :D (unless you are in a stacking mode), makes it a bit easier to kill them immediately and also makes it more obvious where they came from. Haven't come across these in a while now though.
- mcdevilkiller 8y agoi3wm?
- tomxor 8y agoyes :)
- tempodox 8y agoOverlay?
- lmkg 8y agoThe word is "modal." Modal view, modal window, modal pop-up. Sometimes implemented by iframes, sometimes just with divs.
- FactolSarin 8y agoI don't think so. Maybe "modal ad"?
- MagnumOpus 8y agoInterstitial ads?
- Terretta 8y agoYou shouldn’t be voted down. This is the ad industry term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstitial_webpage https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstitial_webpage Now we have interstials behave like SPAs, so siblings are calling this modal, but that’s more about a dialog box you can’t click outside of until dismissed. Interstitial is the entire content until you get past it, like Forbes when you have a content blocker on.
- glitchdout 8y agoModals or modal windows. Case in point: https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/99ljrr/research_has_shown_that_modals_that_cannot_be/e4pjq7h/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/99ljrr/research...
- JBiserkov 8y agoThank you for this! The comments are amazing!
- zamalek 8y agoI use "popover" because modals can serve a real purpose (logins etc.).
- ohitsdom 8y agoA minor aside- "Popover" doesn't quite work if you're regularly using Bootstrap because that means a specific thing. https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.1/components/popovers/ https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.1/components/popovers/
- gregknicholson 8y agoGnome has a similar widget, also called a “popover”; most menus use them.
- overcast 8y agoLogins are not a real purpose for modals. Just go to the login page, and redirect back to where you were. I'll give you confirmation yes/no modals, but that's about it.
- takeda 8y agoThey are bad, but because they are in the same window usually there's not as many of them as it was with popups.
- dblohm7 8y agoWe're working on blocking those too. Feel free to install this addon to help submit data on these: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/in-page-pop-up-reporter/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/in-page-pop-u...
- jetrink 8y agoThis would be an amazing feature! Good luck in your efforts.
- blacksmith_tb 8y agoThat sounds great, but it seems like a Hard Problem, given that lots of sites/apps use modals for necessary things like logins and shopping carts. I suppose one approach would be to inject some kind of 'close and stay closed' control into any elements that cover the page (nice for paywall gray screens, too...)
- aethertap 8y agoI use 'nuke anything' for the gray screens. Click the stuff you never want to see again and it's gone forever.
- scaryclam 8y agoI'm not sure it's all that hard. It's never been a great idea to make core user flows reliant on modals (by all means use them, but make sure you either practice progressive enhancement or have a fallback). Sites doing so are at risk of failing their users. That said, I'd love for a solution akin to popup blocking: block the popunder but alert the user that it happened and allow them to show certain ones.
- natch 8y agoLet me turn off Javascript more easily. And back on again easily. I usually need it gone for like 5 seconds, and then I need it back on, each of which is one key and one click in Safari and an entire journey to the moon and back in Firefox.
- ashleyn 8y agoNothing makes me want to sign up for your newsletter less than having it interrupt what I'm reading.
- Ntrails 8y agoI particularly hate every idiot who decided that scrolling up meant I was done and wanted your garbage top bar to obscure half the screen (including, no doubt, the stuff I was trying to read).
- thaumasiotes 8y agoPffft, what are the odds that scrolling up will leave the text you were trying to read at the top of the screen?
- Ntrails 8y agoI WILL CUT YOU In all seriousness, it's partly that I have dumb habits. I highlight text as I read it (and that causes all sorts of idiot pop ups to share the quote on social media etc) and micro scroll up and down even when not actually trying to actively change the field of view. I can't even justify why I do it. But I do. It's just how I read longform text on computers. On the plus side "reader view" can be a lifesaver
- w0land 8y agoYou're (and me) are not alone at this habit. Nice to know I'm not alone :-)
- yarosv 8y agoI do it all the time too. Hate when something happens. I've seen sites that also start loading next article if I click on the right side of the text column...
- Sabinus 8y agoGood to know I'm not the only one with spastic Web browsing habits.
- pwg 8y agoIf one browses with NoScript in default-deny mode, then many of those "popups over the content in the window" simply do not occur. As well, when they do occur, going into Dev-Tools and deleting the <div> (or whichever element it happens to be) that is the actual popup is often sufficient to remove the popup and make the content view-able again.
- ianlevesque 8y agoI just leave. To each their own though.
- michaelmrose 8y agoUblock origin has a little icon that looks like an eyedropper. You can use it to pick an element you don't want to see anymore on a website. It works on mobile too.
- squarefoot 8y agoAlso reachable using the mouse: right click on the page, select from the menu the "Block element" option near the Ublock Origin icon, then pick the element to block and "Create" the rule in the lower right window that opens as soon as one picks the element. It also supports wildcards, useful to block similar elements or elements used in numbered pages, so that one * will nuke all of them.
- mderazon 8y agoThe ones that track your mouse and sense you're about to close the tab and then show you the pop-up are the most sleazy
- manigandham 8y agoThe adtech terms are: Popups/Overlays = cover your current website. Pop-unders = open new tab with your current site, while redirecting the old tab to an ad, thereby surprising you when you close your current site. Bounce/Exit intent = the above formats but triggered when you leave the site or close the tab. Interstitials = the above formats but triggered when you navigate between pages, common in image galleries.
- deleted 8y ago[deleted]
- JoshMnem 8y agoYou can reduce the problem by turning off CSS animation and blocking elements with Stylus[1][2]. Also turn off all CSS and JS by default and enable resources on a site-by-site basis with umatrix[3][4]. If a page isn't readable, you can turn on Firefox reader mode to format it with one click. The system works well for me. I put this in my global Stylus rules: /* Remove CSS animation on all websites */ *, *:before, *:after { transition-property: none !important; transform: none !important; animation: none !important; } [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/styl-us/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/styl-us/ [2] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpeebahjckkjfobafhncgmne?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpe... [3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [4] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/umatrix/ogfcmafjalglgifnmanfmnieipoejdcf?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/umatrix/ogfcmafjal...
- madeofpalk 8y ago> Also turn off all CSS and JS by default Arguably, that creates a more user-hostile internet browsing experience compared to just allowing for those in-page modal pop ups. At least with those they're few and far between and you can just close the tab and forget about the site.
- JoshMnem 8y agoI don't think "hostile" is the correct word, since it improves my browsing experience. It does more than stop modals -- it prevents 90% of the design, advertising, and tracking garbage on the Web, and I can now read websites the way I want.
- lostmsu 8y agoHow do you turn CSS off with uMatrix? Is it doable separate from scripts?
- detaro 8y agohttps://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/wiki/The-popup-panel https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/wiki/The-popup-panel <- CSS is a column
- christefano 8y ago> Is there a name for this new type of popup? I've heard that these are called pop-ins. 1. https://www.webfx.com/blog/marketing/non-intrusive-pop-ups/ https://www.webfx.com/blog/marketing/non-intrusive-pop-ups/ 2. https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/stop-pop-ups-chrome#comment-ltm-257b655c-0ddf-421d-ab55-6d7fe7e94257 https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/stop-pop-ups-chrome#comme...
- jdironman 8y agoI call them pop-ins.