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Do you have data supporting data for your claim? I'm a Chinese and this kind of murders are really rare. The last one I heard in my hometown (a small costal cit

Do you have data supporting data for your claim? I'm a Chinese and this kind of murders are really rare. The last one I heard in my hometown (a small costal city) is over 10 years ago. And with taxi-hailing apps' commence, this is becoming really rare since the driver can easily pin-pointed (by cross-referencing ubiquitous street cams). Actually in this case the murderer got arrested soon afterwards. While I agree China is under policed, they are generally more effective in body offenses and thanks to street cams (again). These years even home break-ins are rare. As who lived in SF for a year, it's definitely better than SFPD.

dmoy 8y ago
I don't think the point was that cab murders were high, just that both were low, so the whole freak out is probably not rational. The "heard of often" just means it gets plastered on the news / social media when it does happen.
- gbraad 8y ago
  > not rational If it could have been prevented, it is the right reaction. Besides, this is how China works most of the time. Pressure (boycot) on companies leads to results... or put them out of (nearly) business.
  - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
    I believe that was my original point: Chinese officials will rely on didi to police it’s drivers, since having the police instead do that isn’t practical. But it winds up being worse than that, since if didi wasn’t around we would all be taking anonymous black cabs again.
    - gbraad 8y ago
      What is wrong with the usual cabs? Sure, slightly more expensive but reliable.
      - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
        No, it’s the opposite actually. Cheaper, less reliable, especially the black cabs.
seanmcdirmid 8y ago
In Beijing it wasn’t uncommon to hear of a PKU student every few years being murdered by a taxi driver (especially black taxis), once they went full in on satellite campuses causing lots of transit headaches. And like I said originally, I don’t know if it was higher than average or just well publicized when it happens. Ride sharing and taxi hailing apps have definitely made taking a taxi mug safer. Conserving how didi has replace black cabs, that is definitely a good thing. I’m not sure why the government wants didi to shutdown its ride sharing business rather than rely on it as a sure fire way of at least solving murders after the fact. Even full background checks won’t solve murders 100%, and knowing you’ll get caught is a great deterrent. Property crimes are still a huge problem in China, there is a reason all 2nd tier apartments are still barred like crazy. Chinese police don’t really care, they are not using the CCTVs to actually fight property crime, rather for other things.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  > I’m not sure why the government wants didi to shutdown You finally mention it. Without the government wanting it, this story wouldn't have broken. It seems like the c. gov could easily hide hundreds of murders.

dmoy 8y ago

I don't think the point was that cab murders were high, just that both were low, so the whole freak out is probably not rational. The "heard of often" just means it gets plastered on the news / social media when it does happen.

gbraad 8y ago
> not rational If it could have been prevented, it is the right reaction. Besides, this is how China works most of the time. Pressure (boycot) on companies leads to results... or put them out of (nearly) business.
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  I believe that was my original point: Chinese officials will rely on didi to police it’s drivers, since having the police instead do that isn’t practical. But it winds up being worse than that, since if didi wasn’t around we would all be taking anonymous black cabs again.
  - gbraad 8y ago
    What is wrong with the usual cabs? Sure, slightly more expensive but reliable.
    - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
      No, it’s the opposite actually. Cheaper, less reliable, especially the black cabs.

seanmcdirmid 8y ago

In Beijing it wasn’t uncommon to hear of a PKU student every few years being murdered by a taxi driver (especially black taxis), once they went full in on satellite campuses causing lots of transit headaches. And like I said originally, I don’t know if it was higher than average or just well publicized when it happens. Ride sharing and taxi hailing apps have definitely made taking a taxi mug safer. Conserving how didi has replace black cabs, that is definitely a good thing. I’m not sure why the government wants didi to shutdown its ride sharing business rather than rely on it as a sure fire way of at least solving murders after the fact. Even full background checks won’t solve murders 100%, and knowing you’ll get caught is a great deterrent. Property crimes are still a huge problem in China, there is a reason all 2nd tier apartments are still barred like crazy. Chinese police don’t really care, they are not using the CCTVs to actually fight property crime, rather for other things.

solarkraft 8y ago
> I’m not sure why the government wants didi to shutdown You finally mention it. Without the government wanting it, this story wouldn't have broken. It seems like the c. gov could easily hide hundreds of murders.