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Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. I’m mostly joking. Who makes their own websites anymore? Frustrating seeing users caught in the

by shawn 8y ago

Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. I’m mostly joking. Who makes their own websites anymore? Frustrating seeing users caught in the crossfire of policy updates for tech giants.

pmichalina 8y ago
Isn’t this how the web was supposed to work?
MBCook 8y ago
If only all this removed content already existed somewhere else. Like a different extremely popular social network. Like the one all the content was actually posted on originally. I guess I don’t see why this is such a big deal other than as a generic opportunity to be mad at Facebook.
- raphaelrk 8y ago
  I and many others I know post tweets and have them cross posted to Facebook. They get relatively little attention on Twitter, the likes and comments from friends on Facebook was what made them meaningful. Those likes and comments are gone now. It feels sort of like Facebook came and ripped pages out of my diary.
  - kenjackson 8y ago
    Curious, why use Twitter to post them if they get little attention on Twitter
nordsieck 8y ago
> Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance.
- aikah 8y ago
  > GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance. And how do you make your static blog social? No Mastodon and other decentralized networks are the real alternative to Twitter,Facebook, Reddit and co.
  - nordsieck 8y ago
    > And how do you make your static blog social? You can't really. That's the price you pay for running your own stuff. You can fake it a bit with widgets or injected comments, but ultimately that's a pretty pale imitation of the social experience. The upside, though, is that you get to keep all of your content forever, and you get to display it the way you want.
ravenstine 8y ago
Or just go back to email, which is what I've done. Proton Mail is an excellent alternative to Gmail, and pretty much everyone, even Richard Stallman, has an email address. Reaching out to individuals or sending out a general update every once in a while will suffice. Unless one's friends are really immature, people will hesitate to send you photos of their food or their thoughts on some trite opinion piece.
- bduerst 8y ago
  What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in-the-enterprise-g-suites-gmail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/ https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...
  - vageli 8y ago
    > What's wrong with GMail? > Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in.. https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in.... Google stopped mining it for ads, but it's disingenuous to say they stopped mining, period [0]. How do you think those Gmail suggested replies are generated? [0]: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-emails-1202477321 https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email...
    - baddox 8y ago
      So now they only mine it for things that are good for the user experience?
      - wolco 8y ago
        I'm sure that is the orginal intent but can quickly morph.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      > Smart Reply uses neural networks to figure out the main intent of an email, and then suggest short and adequate responses. It’s an incredibly useful feature, it works surprisingly well — and it clearly requires for Google’s computers to “read” your email. Would you stop using Protonmail if they offered the same feature?
ateesdalejr 8y ago
Shameless-plug https://neocities.org https://neocities.org lets you do that for free. :) + letting you kind of be a part of a community built around helping other people with their websites.
- hegz 8y ago
  Also github and gitlab let you host websites for free. Gitlab even let's you run arbitrary code to build the static content.
  - dsumenkovic 8y ago
    If you are interested in GitLab pages, this would be the best place to start: https://about.gitlab.com/features/pages/ https://about.gitlab.com/features/pages/.

by shawn 8y ago

pmichalina 8y ago

Isn’t this how the web was supposed to work?

MBCook 8y ago

If only all this removed content already existed somewhere else. Like a different extremely popular social network. Like the one all the content was actually posted on originally. I guess I don’t see why this is such a big deal other than as a generic opportunity to be mad at Facebook.

raphaelrk 8y ago
I and many others I know post tweets and have them cross posted to Facebook. They get relatively little attention on Twitter, the likes and comments from friends on Facebook was what made them meaningful. Those likes and comments are gone now. It feels sort of like Facebook came and ripped pages out of my diary.
- kenjackson 8y ago
  Curious, why use Twitter to post them if they get little attention on Twitter

nordsieck 8y ago

> Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance.

aikah 8y ago
> GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance. And how do you make your static blog social? No Mastodon and other decentralized networks are the real alternative to Twitter,Facebook, Reddit and co.
- nordsieck 8y ago
  > And how do you make your static blog social? You can't really. That's the price you pay for running your own stuff. You can fake it a bit with widgets or injected comments, but ultimately that's a pretty pale imitation of the social experience. The upside, though, is that you get to keep all of your content forever, and you get to display it the way you want.

ravenstine 8y ago

Or just go back to email, which is what I've done. Proton Mail is an excellent alternative to Gmail, and pretty much everyone, even Richard Stallman, has an email address. Reaching out to individuals or sending out a general update every once in a while will suffice. Unless one's friends are really immature, people will hesitate to send you photos of their food or their thoughts on some trite opinion piece.

bduerst 8y ago
What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in-the-enterprise-g-suites-gmail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/ https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...
- vageli 8y ago
  > What's wrong with GMail? > Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in.. https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in.... Google stopped mining it for ads, but it's disingenuous to say they stopped mining, period [0]. How do you think those Gmail suggested replies are generated? [0]: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-emails-1202477321 https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email...
  - baddox 8y ago
    So now they only mine it for things that are good for the user experience?
    - wolco 8y ago
      I'm sure that is the orginal intent but can quickly morph.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    > Smart Reply uses neural networks to figure out the main intent of an email, and then suggest short and adequate responses. It’s an incredibly useful feature, it works surprisingly well — and it clearly requires for Google’s computers to “read” your email. Would you stop using Protonmail if they offered the same feature?

ateesdalejr 8y ago

Shameless-plug https://neocities.org https://neocities.org lets you do that for free. :) + letting you kind of be a part of a community built around helping other people with their websites.

hegz 8y ago
Also github and gitlab let you host websites for free. Gitlab even let's you run arbitrary code to build the static content.
- dsumenkovic 8y ago
  If you are interested in GitLab pages, this would be the best place to start: https://about.gitlab.com/features/pages/ https://about.gitlab.com/features/pages/.