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AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers
- grezql 8y agogreat news, I love spinning up Lightsail instances for new projects!! my current running instances are not updated, I suppose I have to recreate them then.. Edit: It seems they have added new instance types. My current instances are now 3.50$ https://snag.gy/3Q1fL0.jpg https://snag.gy/3Q1fL0.jpg
- omgtehlion 8y agoWow, tree fiddy. How is cpu usage on these nodes? Aren't they oversubscribed as hell?
- grezql 8y agoI havent noticed it any. I deploy .net core application + loadbalancers and db.
- andy_ppp 8y agoCan I have everything be as simple as Digital Ocean but still use their Managed Services like RDS?
- krn 8y agoOVH provides Cloud Database[1], but only up to 4 GB RAM / 64 GB storage. [1] https://www.ovh.co.uk/cloud/cloud-databases/ https://www.ovh.co.uk/cloud/cloud-databases/
- blunte 8y agoOVH is a horrible company if anything goes wrong or if you have a billing issue. Their tech and pricing may be good, but if there's any problem you'll spend a lot of time trying to deal with them or you'll just give up a let your wasted payment fly away...
- krn 8y agoOVH is dirty cheap, because it is a fully automated service, and if you are using it for anything serious, you need to order a VIP support package[1]. People complain about their terrible support without realizing, that they only paid for the infrastructure, which costs 10x less than AWS. [1] https://www.ovh.co.uk/support/ https://www.ovh.co.uk/support/
- nicolaslem 8y agoDisclaimer: former OVH employee I set up a small personal service a few months ago. My requirements were being dirt cheap and not having to manage anything statefull myself. After looking at all cheap providers, very few of them had managed databases. So I ended up using OVH VPS + Postgres cloud database. The combo costs me 10€/month and runs surprisingly smoothly.
- BrandoElFollito 8y agoI hate OVH (despite my patriotic conscience which yells "achetez français" :)) for what they did with the bandwidth to hubic services. It was close to zero, completely unusable. Their customer service completely sucks, to the point they told me that they do need me. I kepy this in mind when signing up for a huge cloud contract where I told them straight that the way they treat their customers shows. They could have told me many things but not "fuck off, go somewhere else". This cost them a lot of money but they did not learn anything when I recontacted them again from my personal account and the customer service was still the same (of course I could have used the contacts I had there but I wanted to see if the situation impoved).
- eicnix 8y agoYou can but you have to deal with the latency between your host and the RDS instance hosted by AWS.
- patd 8y agoWhy is there only 3 providers there ? This should probably include others like OVH, Scaleway, Vultr,
- zython 8y agoAlso hetzner cloud I dont know about the cores that hetzner provides and how they compare to the competitors, but ~3$ for a somewhat usable VPS is damn competetive (not affiliated with hetzner in any way, other than I have one of those 3$ instances)
- subbz 8y ago+1 for Hetzner! They're great!
- afandian 8y agoI'm currently using Hetzner Cloud in production. Not for user-facing services, but background data churning. Very happy with the service so far, and it has a Terraform plugin, which makes it convenient to use. I think the feature-set and cost are in proportion, if you see what I mean. Compared to AWS EC2 its a great value proposition. Interestingly, they recently announced a 'dedicated vCPU' option for about 10x the price. Top option is €269 vs €29, 32 GB vs 128 GB RAM. But I'v found the performance of the default product to be perfectly good for my needs. The major shortfall with Hetnzer I have found is that the storage isn't scalable. You get what you get. You can choose SSD RAID or Ceph, but you still get the same allowance. I'd love to hear from anyone else using it. Edit: not Hetzner's traditional servers. I've used those too, and they're great value for money if you get them through their server bidding offering.
- foepys 8y agoI'm a Hetzner customer, too, but I'm quite sad that Hetzner doesn't really allow DNS configuration via a centralized REST(-like) API. You can configure DNS via an email interface but there are no officially supported libraries available and it's very clunky [1]. You effectively have to roll your own DNS servers or chose another DNS provider if you want to manage a lot of servers dynamically. 1: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/E-Mail-Schnittstelle_Domain_Registration_Robot/en https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/E-Mail-Schnittstelle_Domai...
- eahman09 8y agoDO and Linode are very expensive compared to OVH, Scaleway or Hetzner. So this reads as "Lightsail announces 50% price drop, will still be very expensive" (From another comment: https://snag.gy/3Q1fL0.jpg https://snag.gy/3Q1fL0.jpg) -> $3.50 for 512 MB of RAM is a fucking rip-off compared to this: https://www.scaleway.com/ https://www.scaleway.com/
- cbg0 8y agoIf all you're interested in comparing is price, then yes it is still expensive, but there are other considerations such as network quality, support responsiveness, the actual performance of the VPS.
- eahman09 8y agoMaybe OVH, Scaleway and Hetzner are better than DO and Linode in that regard.
- rooam-dev 8y agoFrom my experience Hetzner's network reliability is not even close to DO's.
- clagio 8y agoIn my experience OVH support is completely useless.. you have to wait for ages before having a response, and when you get it, it's useless...
- piotrkubisa 8y agoSadly I second that. Also I had problem with their "DDoS protection" which detected false-positive DDoS attack. I got instance suspended after 6 days after payment for next month without any refund. They noticed "weird" traffic to my instance where I had installed Cloud9 [0][1] and I assume built-in terminal was flooding instance with TCP-SYN packets when I was using it. I am glad that I haven't left anything inside, because I lost access to this instance and storage. Before that, I thought such protection rather stops instances not drops them with mounted SSD disks to do not impose an impact on other instances. [0]: https://github.com/c9/core https://github.com/c9/core [1]: https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9 https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9
- candiodari 8y agoKimsufi has dedicated servers starting at 5$ per month. Yes, it's an atom, but it's yours alone, and is going to beat these on performance, memory and riskspace.
- cbg0 8y agoNo ECC RAM, also their network isn't exactly top tier and many complain about support. You will get what you pay for.
- minimaul 8y agoKimsufi gets de-prioritised compared to other services on OVH’s network and there are capacity issues. This is probably due to the fact that a lot of people use them for cheap 24x7 torrent boxes rather than the cheap personal VPS alternative they were intended as.
- dx034 8y agoWhy not use Hetzner cloud instead? It's shared but with ECC ram and faster CPU & storage
- Outpox 8y agoI would suggest adding Scaleway[0] to the list. I've used their server a bit and it worked well. I know them because of their parent company (Online) which I've been a custom for quite a few years now. [0] https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/
- jayonsoftware 8y agoLightSail is the only vendor in this space to offer Windows hosting.
- adventured 8y agoI know they're not listed in the comparison, however Vultr has superior Windows Server hosting as compared to LightSail. Their network is a lot faster and their servers are better. I aggressively recommend Vultr over LightSail if you're using Windows for something.
- tnolet 8y agoSo a regular EC2 T2.medium with 4GB RAM is $39 while a LightSail 4GB is $20. Damn. Need to switch some EC2 workload to LightSail.
- romanovcode 8y agoWhat does "Consistent 100% CPU usage" means? Does it mean that if I get the instance and use CPU on 100% it will shut it down?
- ZiiS 8y agoNo, lightsail is less well documented; but are based on EC2 burstable instances. These have a baseline performance where you can use 5%-30% of the CPU, and accrue credits to burst up to using 100% for short periods. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/t2-credits-baseline-concepts.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/t2-credi... If you are out of credits your CPU is just slower, you don't get turned off.
- ernsheong 8y agoWish Google Cloud could have this kind of price point. 1vCPU + 1GB RAM on GCP is $19.22
- majewsky 8y agowtf 2 vCPU + 2 GB RAM is about € 2,50 ($3.00) on https://hetzner.cloud https://hetzner.cloud. (Not affiliated, just a happy customer.)
- aepiepaey 8y agoOn the far low end, BuyVM has a $15/year plan (1 core, 128M ram, 15G disk, 500G bandwidth). Has been working well so far (a few years), though haven't really been close to any resource limits (yet).
- LeonM 8y agoThat's really cheap, you couldn't even run a RPi at home for that.
- jaxondu 8y agoWhat do you use it for?
- BrandoElFollito 8y agoI would use for anything I put on a RPi: a DNS server, a MQTT backend, some light backends for a web app (I need to connect to some light services and prices their output into a JSON), a monitoring service,...
- hyperfekt 8y agoDepending what core that is, you get more on the Google Cloud free tier (600MB RAM, 30GB disk). But: only 30GB outgoing bandwidth.
- indigodaddy 8y agoThought it was 1G transfer max (not sure which direction or both)
- sudhirj 8y agoThis is probably based on the new T3 release. https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/aws-announces-availability-of-t3-instances-for-amazon-ec2-2018-08-21 https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/aws-announces-avai... I'm guessing they're able to do burstable offerings with better baseline and burst at a lower cost than before.
- ksec 8y agoThat would make sense. But T3 are comparatively speaking, much slower than DO and Linode. When Lightsail were first released those benchmarks won't any good at all. The only reason for using Lightsail is you want all those Amazon Services, which your LightSail can hook up free of transfer using Private Network.
- sitkack 8y agoWait, so you can read from an S3 bucket for free using LightSail but egress at LightSail prices?
- sudhirj 8y agoYes, but I think lightsail egress is more expensive than s3 egress. On my phone, but isn’t lightsail 9 cents a GB to S3 being 8 cents? Think regular ec2 is 8 cents as well, or is that 12?
- extra88 8y agoLightsail includes a data transfer allowance, starting at 1TB, though importantly both data in and out is counted against the allowance. In the vast majority of cases, the allowance is enough. If you do use all the allowance, data transfer out charges are $.09/GB in most regions, the same as EC2 and S3, at least for the first 10TB.
- scarface74 8y agoHopefully this won't be taken as an anti-MS rant. I've been developing exclusively on Microsoft's platforms for over 20 years. But, if developing and hosting in a cloud environment doesn't convince you to go Linux, nothing will. While for the most part as far as feature parity and development tools, AWS treats Windows developers like first class citizens. The "Windows Tax" is clear in AWS when you can see the cost difference between running the same instance size with Linux as Windows. Even worse, realistically, running any Windows instance with less than 8GB of RAM is painful. Your minimum cost is $70 a month. Being in the Windows world so long, I was amazed when I started using AWS and found how much you could do with relatively few resources in the Linux world. I never cared before, I was using other people's money. But I'm not leaving .Net Core, its made transistioning to Linux hosted development less painful. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-lightsail-update-more-instance-sizes-and-price-reductions/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-lightsail-update-mor...
- askaboutit 8y agoMeh. Look at the bandwidth pricing. If bandwidth is the Soda. DO is coke and lights sail is McDonald’s selling coke. You can get it direct at wholesale or buy it in a bottle for 5x more.
- pritambarhate 8y agoOne quick question about LightSail Load Balancers: Is the outbound traffic from the Load Balancer to the Internet is charged separately or it is taken from the instances quota? Scanned through the FAQ but couldn't find a clear answer.
- dna_polymerase 8y agoWouldn't use Digital Ocean for shit, there are multiple stories of users were they cancelled accounts (actual production systems) because of sustained use or bogus DMCA claims.
- zaarn 8y agoI wouldn't use a service for VPS either if they reacted to DMCA/Takedown Notice claims. As the operator of the server on that VPS the DMCA/Takedown Notice is my business not the providers. Otherwise it's a way to convenient method to cripple the competition or shut someone's personal website down for shits and giggles.
- chomp 8y agoYeah but that's not how the law works. A service provider risks losing its safe harbor status if it delegates a DMCA complaint to a party and then that DMCA complaint is ignored. Providers have an incentive to shut down services on the terms of the DMCA to protect their business. And even if you have a registered copyright agent for your business and a form on your site to report infringement, lawyers love to blast out DMCA claims to you, your agent, and your provider, as high in the chain as they can go. It's a huge headache. Do you colo, or use non-US based providers?
- zaarn 8y agoI'm not in the US and use a non-US based provider. The EU notice&takedown procedure does not entail that you loose protection for simply forwarding such notices, all that matters if someone responsible is actually reading the contents. If I don't give a shit about the notice then you can send a C&D and if I still don't give a shit, you can sue me. Or you make someone at my provider somehow care.
- jarland 8y agoI'm sorry you feel that way. We always try to work with our customers to resolve disputes in the best way possible. There are two sides to every story and we do respect the privacy of our customers. If you would like to talk about anything specific that you are concerned about, I'd be happy to chat at jdonnell@digitalocean.com.
- 0x7f800000 8y agoStill no IPv6.