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The F35 is “military grade” too. It’s massively over budget, doesn’t work and never will. Oh and rival states already stole all the blueprints.

• adventured 8y ago
  According to the Norwegian pilots currently flying the F35, it defeats all other planes it has gone up against due to its tech and stealth superiority. Only the F22 - which was recently in Norway for exercises - provided it a good challenge. The Israelis are actively using the F35 in missions. Their air force is not known for spending large sums of money on planes that don't work. Nobody else has fielded a 5th gen plane in meaningful numbers, including Russia and China. There's a reason for that.
  • alphabettsy 8y ago
    Wondering if that reason is not being necessary or beneficial? At this point we’ve built several generations of advanced jets that’ve never seen meaningful combat or use starting with, from what I remember, the F-117.
    • perl4ever 8y ago
      Well, there was one F-117 that was shot down, and conversely, since it was solely an attack aircraft, avoiding combat was more what it was supposed to do, no?
      • gaius 8y ago
        Yes, stealth defeated by "obsolete" equipment. F35s don't stand a chance against modern Russian S-400s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown
    • nradov 8y ago
      The F-117 flew combat missions all over the world before it was retired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Operational_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Opera...
    • Latteland 8y ago
      I've heard the idea that a rationale for the us to keep improving its jets was to provide a counter for the theoretical air forces of the world that field our previous generation of jets.
  • ttwtf 8y ago
    "According to the Norwegian pilots currently flying the F35, it defeats all other planes it has gone up against due to its tech and stealth superiority." The F35 is a one trick pony. - Arms load? Little - Speed? comparatively slow - Dogfighting capability? Low - View for the pilot? limited. - Maintenance requirement. High It sets all bets on "invisibility". By definition a plane can't be invisible in the year 2018. It depends on what frequencies/spectrum your look at it and from what angle you look at it (most planes are not very visible if the radar sees them from the front). Once you take this out (and Russians radars may be able to, nobody knows) it is a very risky bet. Guess why the US don't want Russia to train Turks on the S400. Then we would likely know. "The Israelis are actively using the F35 in missions. Their air force is not known for spending large sums of money on planes that don't work." What was the last time Israel fought Russia or China? Please remind me. And since people like to downvote me, take this as a hint: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-f-35-still-has-long-way-go-before-it-will-be-ready-24810?nopaging=1 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-f-35-still-ha... And this: http://www.defenseworld.net/news/10501/Enemy_AESA_Radar_Can_Detect_F_35_JSF http://www.defenseworld.net/news/10501/Enemy_AESA_Radar_Can_... One advantage has the F-35. Acquisition costs seem cheap. It is in the price range of the Eurofighter.