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It can't be that hard to change it to use whatever payment processor the seller wants, shouldn't it?
by s73v3r_ 8y ago
It can't be that hard to change it to use whatever payment processor the seller wants, shouldn't it?
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoWell, it's probably require a fork. Cryptocurrency is already tightly integrated with OpenBazaar. This also removes all of the platform's credibility in my eyes.
- antidesitter 8y agoWhy does it remove all of the platform’s credibility in your eyes?
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoBecause it shows that they're more interested in riding the crypto hype wave than in solving real problems.
- antidesitter 8y agothey're more interested in riding the crypto hype wave than in solving real problems On what basis do you make that accusation? And how does supporting cryptocurrency preclude them from solving "real problems", whatever that means?
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoBecause cryptocurrency is clearly the wrong solution to this problem. If they actually wanted to make a decentralized marketplace non-technical people can use they would not have used cryptocurrency.
- antidesitter 8y agocryptocurrency is clearly the wrong solution to this problem Why is it the "wrong" solution to making a decentralized marketplace? What's the "right" solution?
- s73v3r_ 8y agoSomething that the local people are actually using.
- antidesitter 8y agoCan you be more specific? Are you referring to cash?
- baq 8y agoExactly. Or credit/debit cards.
- antidesitter 8y agoHow do you propose cash transactions be carried out over the internet? How do credit/debit cards satisfy the proposition of a decentralized marketplace?
- arisAlexis 8y agothey just don't
- s73v3r_ 8y ago"How do credit/debit cards satisfy the proposition of a decentralized marketplace?" They're something that most people are actually using, allowing the marketplace to actually conduct commerce and exist.
- antidesitter 8y ago
- arisAlexis 8y agoits not difficult to understand that if you make this system with existing currencies it is centralised by default since the payment processors can and will enforce restrictions. then why make it decentralised?
- SamPatt 8y agoOpenBazaar is over four years old now. It didn't emerge out of blockchain hype. Cryptocurrency means it can be completely peer to peer and not reliant on any payment processing platforms, and with multisig is allows for powerful escrow as well.
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoHype has certainly peaked recently but that doens't mean they weren't a part of it. Blockchain has been hype for a long time. I understand the "benefits" of cryptocurrency. They're all outweighed by people wanting their money to have a stable value so they can realistically budget their real life expenses. In the bubble cryptocurrency nuts live in where they don't have to worry about real world problems like carefully budgeting their paychecks, it might work, but software like OpenBazaar crashes right into reality.
- mbrock 8y agoDo you think there’s any chance that within 5 years there will be a somewhat widely accessible cryptotoken whose value is decently stable in the short and medium term, so that platforms like OpenBazaar would become at least viable for early adopter types and their friends?
- api 8y agoDuring the height of dot.com mania would you have written off all web projects? People did. I remember reading those kinds of comments.
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoDo I have to remind you what happened between peak dot com hype and the modern web? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession
- api 8y agoSure. I expect that in cryptocurrency when the current bubble pops. It's likely that the most interesting things in cryptocurrency will be introduced during the crypto-recession. Right now there is too much noise.
- arisAlexis 8y agoor maybe you are resistant to change and fail to see the value of decentralised money ?
- s73v3r_ 8y agoOr maybe it's nowhere near there yet, and they want to help solve the problem they see now.
- SamPatt 8y agoWe would absolutely welcome attempts to integrate other forms of payment into OpenBazaar. Our escrow system currently relies on multisig but that's the only significant impediment to adoption.