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Has he tried setting it on his bare legs during the test?
by njloof 8y ago
Has he tried setting it on his bare legs during the test?
- satysin 8y agoWhy would anyone put a high end laptop on their legs while doing a prolonged intensive task such as video rendering??
- bradenb 8y agoIsn't part of the definition of a laptop that it should be able to be used comfortably resting on the user's lap?
- satysin 8y agoWell you can put it on your bare legs if you really want to and during general use doing so is fine but rendering video is going to make it get hot and very uncomfortable.
- namibj 8y agoPlace a W-series Thinpad on your bare legs on a warm summer day (think you can just still survive/think at all without A/C). You will want to get it away as you can't sweat well under it, and it's dumping some heat into your blood. That's it, despite some discomfort you won't mind it. And apparently the make them with more TDP than apple seems to be able to handle, but instead of an i9 they appear to jump directly to a Xeon. Those start at over $3500 in base configuration though....
- zaroth 8y agoThe versatility of a laptop doesn’t mean that it should be expected to violate the laws of physics, or only use chips with maximum TDP such that it is always comfortable on your lap. Having a chip which can max out thermal load while plugged in at your desk, with the expected thermal results, and then throttle down when you go mobile, again with the expected thermal results, is actually the best of both worlds. And with one click the user can actually choose which power mode they want to operate in. A laptop that throttles back to avoid getting hot when you need the CPU/GPU operating at peak performance would be much less useful, particularly for professional use.
- Dylan16807 8y agoViolate the laws of physics? Is that the term for limiting the amount of power you dump into the chassis? There's an unlimited amount of air to soak up the bulk of the heat.
- dpkonofa 8y agoThat's why they're explicitly not referred to as laptops but notebook computers. It's the reason Apple calls them MacBooks only and not laptops.
- tooop 8y agoLaptop is the same thing as notebook computer and Macbook is just a brand name while the actual device is laptop.
- x2f10 8y agoYou have to be kidding. What you're referring to is a branding tactic. It has nothing to do with some subconscious direction on how to use the device. It's not only reasonable, but expected, that customers will use the device in their laps... no matter what the naming convention. Come on.
- dpkonofa 8y agoNot kidding at all. The entire industry made a huge hard stop and turn on the terminology around 2001/2001 after Dell was sued because a man claimed that his "laptop" burned his thighs/penis when the CPU/battery heated up and the fans didn't turn on. The courts ruled that "laptop" implied that the machine was safe to use in that manner and the guy was awarded damages. After that, it became exclusively "notebook" or "portable" computer industry-wide. I haven't really put any thought into it recently but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any manufacturer referring to their machines as "laptops" now. Edit: It was a Dell Latitude that burned the man's penis: http://ftp.compal.com/Download/NB/NCL50/User-Service%20manual/NCL50%20user%27s%20%20manual%200430.pdf http://ftp.compal.com/Download/NB/NCL50/User-Service%20manua...
- x2f10 8y ago>I haven't really put any thought into it recently but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any manufacturer referring to their machines as "laptops" now. Oh, really? Let's see. Dell: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/sc/laptops https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/sc/laptops HP: https://store.hp.com/us/en/cat/laptops https://store.hp.com/us/en/cat/laptops ASUS: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ Lenovo: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/c/LAPTOPS https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/c/LAPTOPS Toshiba: http://laptops.toshiba.com/computers-tablets/home/ http://laptops.toshiba.com/computers-tablets/home/ Acer: https://us-store.acer.com/laptops https://us-store.acer.com/laptops Samsung: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/windows-laptops/ https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/windows-laptops/ I will stop there, because it's obvious that 'the entire industry' did not make a 'huge hard stop and turn on the terminology'. Stop being a fool.
- minikites 8y agoIf you look carefully, Apple (and probably other manufacturers) call their portable computers "notebooks" and not "laptops" because using a computer on your lap is bad both thermally and ergonomically.
- tooop 8y agoLaptop and notebook is the same thing...
- InitialLastName 8y ago... except that one conspicuously avoids the assertion that one should use it on one's lap.
- kjeetgill 8y agoYou never need to compile things sitting in a coffee shop? I do it at least two three times a week.
- rubbingalcohol 8y agoSo you put it on your bare legs? That's a good do-it-yourself vasectomy alternative.
- satysin 8y agoSure but I put it on a table so the fans can work properly.
- ralfd 8y agois compiling as taxing as video rendering though?
- mikkelam 8y agoSure, if the compiler is able to leverage all cores in an intensive task
- ddtaylor 8y agoLouis Rossmann on YouTube has a take on this "you're using it wrong" culture of Apple products I find interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYHwkIuEMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYHwkIuEMo
- fredsted 8y agoAll computers get really hot when doing stuff like video rendering, not really apple specific
- namibj 8y agoActually i only sweat with my thinkpad, but that might come from it having 1) slightly lower TDP (30W instead of the 50 I read above), and 2) a thermal design that does not result in any part being too hot to touch. Even in ambient temperatures that are no longer healthy for a resting human.
- satysin 8y agoI find Louis hard to watch if I am honest. Yes I know Apple don't make the best products but let's be honest they are not actually that bad. I know he doesn't like Apple, he hates all the soldered components making things hard to impossible to repair, etc. He loves his ThinkPad's which is cool (I love them also) but I just got bored of his constant Apple hating.
- ddtaylor 8y agoWatch any content provider enough and you'll probably get tired of them IMO
- Faark 8y ago> his constant Apple hating I guess that's normal for someone fixing Apple stuff as his day job and thus always only seeing apples bad side. Especially with seemingly Apple not wanting such repairs to happen.
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- toomanybeersies 8y agoOnce, the place I was staying in was so cold that I put my laptop onto a CPU intensive task and stuck it in between the covers as a sort of hi-tech hot water bottle.