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We are all told that red wine if consumed in limited amounts every day is very beneficial for health in the long term. Of late, I heard that this scientific mar
by godelmachine 8y ago
We are all told that red wine if consumed in limited amounts every day is very beneficial for health in the long term. Of late, I heard that this scientific marketing was also sponsored by the alcohol industry and high chances that this notion is fake and preposterous.
- DanBC 8y agoA very small amount of red wine is beneficial to women over 60. No-one else gets the benefits. We've known this for a few years now.
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- therealjumbo 8y agoNah, I feel great after two bottles of wine and I'm not 60 or a woman.
- godelmachine 8y agoDon’t wanna pun but maybe you feeling great must be inebriation. We are talking about long term health benefits here :)
- nasredin 8y agoWrong. The woman's husband always benefits.
- cncrnd 8y agoI always assumed that this had to do with antioxidants in grapes and nothing to do with alcohol itself. That's not so far fetched to me, but why not just drink grape juice?
- hrnnnnnn 8y agoOr go one better and eat the whole grapes.
- amelius 8y agoI've heard that grapes are among the worst kinds of fruit you can eat when it comes to pesticides. http://time.com/5234787/dirty-dozen-pesticides/ http://time.com/5234787/dirty-dozen-pesticides/
- hrnnnnnn 8y agoOn one hand that's bad. On the other hand, not eating them might actually increase your risk of cancer. Perceived risk from harm due to pesticides on food is overestimated by many people, and the risk of not eating more fruit and vegetables is underestimated. "If just half the U.S. population were to increase fruit and vegetable consumption by a single serving a day, an estimated 20,000 cancer cases might be avoided each year. That’s how powerful produce may be. But because the model was using conventional fruits and veggies the pesticide residues on those extra fruits and vegetables might result in ten additional cancer cases." https://nutritionfacts.org/video/are-the-benefits-of-organic-food-underrated-or-overrated/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/are-the-benefits-of-organic...
- drb91 8y agoWell, if you’re already getting your vitamins elsewhere, eating a grape might not be terribly different from eating sugar. It is very odd fruits and veggies are mixed together like this when they have such a different nutritional profile.
- hrnnnnnn 8y agoThere seems to be no safe dose for alcohol. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-it-better-to-drink-little-alcohol-than-none-at-all/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-it-better-to-drink-littl...
- loeg 8y agoThe statement is probably true, but the provided source is one you should be skeptical of. The author is somewhat of a vegan quack. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illness-curable-by-veganism/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illnes... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger
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- elliotec 8y agoWhich part of this was quackery?
- adrr 8y agoEthanol is in many of foods that we consume from yoghurt to bread and even fruit. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421578/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421578/
- Lucent 8y agoI have a genotype that causes moderate drinking to lower risk of CHD with a p value of 0.008. Check out the odds ratios for the different groups as well. https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs708272 https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs708272 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25288221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25288221
- jdietrich 8y agoDiscussions about diet have been massively muddied by things that don't really matter. A lot of people have completely lost faith in nutritional science, because what they hear in the news is often confusing and contradictory. A glass of wine per day might have a very slight benefit, or it might be slightly harmful. We're not entirely sure, because the effect size is very small either way. Have a glass of wine, don't have a glass of wine, it doesn't really matter. We are very confident that eating fruit and vegetables is good for you. The majority of Americans eat significantly less than the recommended amount of fruit and vegetables. We are very confident that drinking more than a small amount of alcohol is bad for you. 30% of Americans drink more than the recommended amount. We are very confident that being obese is bad for you. 40% of Americans are obese. We should probably just ignore any new studies in nutrition, because we're failing to act on stuff that we've known about for decades, stuff that most people would agree is common sense. We need to focus our efforts on getting the basics right.
- mnm1 8y agoObviously. Do you really think a little addiction to alcohol could be beneficial given all the ill effects we've known about it the last 8000 years?