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Google has been trash for pirate content for awhile now. 9/10 sites it does show are fake and straight up malicious with like 50 different things trying to hija

Google has been trash for pirate content for awhile now. 9/10 sites it does show are fake and straight up malicious with like 50 different things trying to hijack your browser and make you install shit. Not that real pirate sites are exactly safe, but at least they actually provide what people are looking for.

Kagerjay 8y ago
When I search for TV shows I watch it inside a VPN sandboxie on a isolated incognito browser I don't use everyday. Any data that writes to a local DB is done through an isolated folder instead. I've learned the hard way having to reinstall my computer too many times. I don't run things like umatrix though. Torrents and pirate sites are actually fairly safe. You can always double check the SHA hash signature of the file you download as well with the official source. I don't endorse pirating at all and usually pay for all my software though. Its just all my favorite TV shows are across multiple networks. I would pay money for a netflix that encompasses every TV show based on my usage. Such a service doesn't exist though.
ddtaylor 8y ago
I find it entertaining Google will fight "piracy" which could include downloading content you legally have the ability to watch while promoting malware instead.
dawnerd 8y ago
So I was looking for an older movie a while back, not even necessarily to pirate but just if it was available anywhere. Tons of results on YouTube that were just hiurbking clips with a frame that said check description for url. Amazing google can’t stop those but they can do things like demobilize lgbt content.
- bagels 8y ago
  What does this verb mean in this context, "demobilize"?
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    It's a phone induced misspelling of "demonetize"
- dawnerd 8y ago
  Wow, note to self, double check autocorrect when commenting after just waking up.
Rjevski 8y ago
I wish that if they’re gonna downrank “good” pirate content then they should do the same (or worse) for the bad/malicious ones. Whether you’re pro or anti piracy, replacing that content with malware & scams does not make the world a better place.
- nolemurs 8y ago
  > I wish that if they’re gonna downrank “good” pirate content then they should do the same (or worse) for the bad/malicious ones. I'm pretty confident they'd like to but it's a tricky problem. Based on this article, they're downranking based on number of legit DMCA requests - the good sites will generate a lot of signal on that front. The bad/malicious sites won't. The malicious/scam sites usually come and go quickly, so it's hard to learn which ones they are - if you figure out one site is a scam, and a new one pops up. A real solution would require being able to make an automatic judgement about whether a site is bad/malicious based on the content of the site, but that's really hard, and it's really bad when you get false positives, so you have to be super conservative about it.
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  - GW150914 8y ago
    A real solution would be to employ competent humans rather than build and rely on incompetent algorithms.
    - Rjevski 8y ago
      As much as I’m against algorithms on closed platforms and walled gardens, I believe algorithms are the way to go on the open web, especially since the amount of content there can be infinite.
      - cornholio 8y ago
        It's infinite because it's produced by algorithms - handling it is clearly a job for algorithms. On the other hand, some things tend not to be automatically generated, like domain names, visual templates, monetization tricks and business deals. So if one side is powered by human ingenuity assisted by algorithms, you need both on the other side, not one or the other. It was the folly of Google to think they could get by using algorithms alone, and the immensely complex, human tweaked, secret soup that Search has become is the result.
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ItsMe000001 8y ago
I run all such queries in a dedicated Linux VM so that I visit any "strange" websites only in that VM. I use a browser not connected to my (sync) account and don't login to any of my usual websites. uBlock Origin with all kinds of lists enabled is on, uMatrix is installed but it was too much of a hassle so it remains disabled. I hope my feeling of relative safety is justified, but I'm not a security expert(?). PS: Before anyone gets upset that I use such services, I'm not a heavy "pirate" by any measure. When I needed it I purchased software like Adobe Creative Suite or Jetbrain IDE licenses without hesitation. I only use it for things I don't really need and only use once, such as checking out a TV series (I very, very rarely watch anything, relying on specific Youtube and Twitch content instead, leaving two - one came with the apartment rent, one with the Internet - cable TV subscriptions unused).
- visarga 8y ago
  Being disgusted by the viciousness of the anti-piracy movement mostly gave up US made movies and TV shows. I used to watch many shows and movies every year, now it's just one show and a couple of movies a year - in other words, almost nothing. And that makes me very proud and happy, they deserve it. Don't even go to cinema much. Instead I watch Youtube: lectures, documentaries, courses and music. Reading Arxiv papers is stimulating and interesting. Streaming anime can replace US shows quite well. Don't need US entertainment after all.
- zawerf 8y ago
  I wonder if I am doing too little in comparison? I just use incognito and adblock. My impression is that whenever there's a remote code execution bug in chrome it becomes big news (ex: Meltdown/Spectre) so usually I can just trust the browser sandbox. Surely anyone with an exploit that can break the sandbox would use it on high value target rather than wasting it on the mass and having it get patched quickly? I think I've become complacent since it's been more than a decade since I've gotten a virus/malware just from clicking a link.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    >I think I've become complacent since it's been more than a decade since I've gotten a virus/malware just from clicking a link. The dangerous ones are precisely the ones you don't know about.
chii 8y ago
do you have a recommended list of good piracy sites?
- ArrrMatey 8y ago
  Meta indexer like torrentz2.eu (that replaced the old torrentz.eu), if you look in their help page you'll find the list of sites they index.
- nasredin 8y ago
  RARBG It's Romanian IIRC.
- chronial 8y ago
  See reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread#wiki_iii._torrent_indexers.2Fsites https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread#wiki_iii._to...

Kagerjay 8y ago

When I search for TV shows I watch it inside a VPN sandboxie on a isolated incognito browser I don't use everyday. Any data that writes to a local DB is done through an isolated folder instead. I've learned the hard way having to reinstall my computer too many times. I don't run things like umatrix though. Torrents and pirate sites are actually fairly safe. You can always double check the SHA hash signature of the file you download as well with the official source. I don't endorse pirating at all and usually pay for all my software though. Its just all my favorite TV shows are across multiple networks. I would pay money for a netflix that encompasses every TV show based on my usage. Such a service doesn't exist though.

ddtaylor 8y ago

I find it entertaining Google will fight "piracy" which could include downloading content you legally have the ability to watch while promoting malware instead.

dawnerd 8y ago

So I was looking for an older movie a while back, not even necessarily to pirate but just if it was available anywhere. Tons of results on YouTube that were just hiurbking clips with a frame that said check description for url. Amazing google can’t stop those but they can do things like demobilize lgbt content.

bagels 8y ago
What does this verb mean in this context, "demobilize"?
- EpicEng 8y ago
  It's a phone induced misspelling of "demonetize"
dawnerd 8y ago
Wow, note to self, double check autocorrect when commenting after just waking up.

Rjevski 8y ago

I wish that if they’re gonna downrank “good” pirate content then they should do the same (or worse) for the bad/malicious ones. Whether you’re pro or anti piracy, replacing that content with malware & scams does not make the world a better place.

nolemurs 8y ago
> I wish that if they’re gonna downrank “good” pirate content then they should do the same (or worse) for the bad/malicious ones. I'm pretty confident they'd like to but it's a tricky problem. Based on this article, they're downranking based on number of legit DMCA requests - the good sites will generate a lot of signal on that front. The bad/malicious sites won't. The malicious/scam sites usually come and go quickly, so it's hard to learn which ones they are - if you figure out one site is a scam, and a new one pops up. A real solution would require being able to make an automatic judgement about whether a site is bad/malicious based on the content of the site, but that's really hard, and it's really bad when you get false positives, so you have to be super conservative about it.
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- GW150914 8y ago
  A real solution would be to employ competent humans rather than build and rely on incompetent algorithms.
  - Rjevski 8y ago
    As much as I’m against algorithms on closed platforms and walled gardens, I believe algorithms are the way to go on the open web, especially since the amount of content there can be infinite.
    - cornholio 8y ago
      It's infinite because it's produced by algorithms - handling it is clearly a job for algorithms. On the other hand, some things tend not to be automatically generated, like domain names, visual templates, monetization tricks and business deals. So if one side is powered by human ingenuity assisted by algorithms, you need both on the other side, not one or the other. It was the folly of Google to think they could get by using algorithms alone, and the immensely complex, human tweaked, secret soup that Search has become is the result.

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ItsMe000001 8y ago

I run all such queries in a dedicated Linux VM so that I visit any "strange" websites only in that VM. I use a browser not connected to my (sync) account and don't login to any of my usual websites. uBlock Origin with all kinds of lists enabled is on, uMatrix is installed but it was too much of a hassle so it remains disabled. I hope my feeling of relative safety is justified, but I'm not a security expert(?). PS: Before anyone gets upset that I use such services, I'm not a heavy "pirate" by any measure. When I needed it I purchased software like Adobe Creative Suite or Jetbrain IDE licenses without hesitation. I only use it for things I don't really need and only use once, such as checking out a TV series (I very, very rarely watch anything, relying on specific Youtube and Twitch content instead, leaving two - one came with the apartment rent, one with the Internet - cable TV subscriptions unused).

visarga 8y ago
Being disgusted by the viciousness of the anti-piracy movement mostly gave up US made movies and TV shows. I used to watch many shows and movies every year, now it's just one show and a couple of movies a year - in other words, almost nothing. And that makes me very proud and happy, they deserve it. Don't even go to cinema much. Instead I watch Youtube: lectures, documentaries, courses and music. Reading Arxiv papers is stimulating and interesting. Streaming anime can replace US shows quite well. Don't need US entertainment after all.
zawerf 8y ago
I wonder if I am doing too little in comparison? I just use incognito and adblock. My impression is that whenever there's a remote code execution bug in chrome it becomes big news (ex: Meltdown/Spectre) so usually I can just trust the browser sandbox. Surely anyone with an exploit that can break the sandbox would use it on high value target rather than wasting it on the mass and having it get patched quickly? I think I've become complacent since it's been more than a decade since I've gotten a virus/malware just from clicking a link.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  >I think I've become complacent since it's been more than a decade since I've gotten a virus/malware just from clicking a link. The dangerous ones are precisely the ones you don't know about.

chii 8y ago

do you have a recommended list of good piracy sites?

ArrrMatey 8y ago
Meta indexer like torrentz2.eu (that replaced the old torrentz.eu), if you look in their help page you'll find the list of sites they index.
nasredin 8y ago
RARBG It's Romanian IIRC.
chronial 8y ago
See reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread#wiki_iii._torrent_indexers.2Fsites https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/wiki/megathread#wiki_iii._to...