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"Users who sign up for Internet.org are required to sign up for Facebook first, and Free Basics works by not counting Facebook use against a limited data plan;
by hw 8y ago
"Users who sign up for Internet.org are required to sign up for Facebook first, and Free Basics works by not counting Facebook use against a limited data plan; therefore, if users do most browsing through Facebook, they can use the “internet” essentially for free."
Sure, connecting billions of underserved people to the internet is great and all, but it's all in the name of growing Facebook's user base and numbers. Any philantrophic / good will effort that has a business agenda behind it can't really be trusted. Not to mention putting Facebook as the access vehicle and introduction to the Internet for folks who have barely or never been connected before, is like giving drugs to a new born.
There are ways to get people connected to the Internet, without requiring them to "browse through Facebook", for example by spending your billions and building infrastructure. Try again, MZ.
- wmccullough 8y agoI think there’s something important to glean here. We’ve always seen Facebook driving trends in social media (or re-appropriating features from lesser groups). We are starting to see a near constant reactive Facebook. This is the beginning of the end for them.
- blind 8y agoGetFire.net
- JustSomeNobody 8y agoI don't understand your comment. Is this spam? Can you explain?
- amelius 8y agoWouldn't it be possible to make a tunnel, such that the users can use internet, while Facebook receives essentially zero information?
- pritambaral 8y agoWhen FB was trying to peddle "Free Basics" in India, I looked up the rules for a website to be supported, and FB demanded no communication between the user and websites be encrypted. The problem is not a technical one.
- mic47 8y agoThe problem was technical (due to the way it was initially built, I think it was using facebook domain for zero rating). Currently, encryption is supported: end-to-end on app, for mobile browser facebook apparently still decrypts the traffic. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/internet-org/platform-technical-guidelines https://developers.facebook.com/docs/internet-org/platform-t... "HTTPS support We encrypt information for Free Basics wherever possible. When people use the Free Basics Android app, their traffic is encrypted end-to-end unless you specify that your service should be HTTP only. For the Free Basics website in a mobile browser, we use a “dual certificate” model to encrypt traffic between a person's device and our servers in both directions. If your server supports HTTPS, we will also encrypt traffic between our servers and yours. Even if your service doesn't yet support HTTPS, where possible we will encrypt that information between our servers and people's devices unless you ask us to not use dual certificate HTTPS. When people use the Free Basics mobile website, information is temporarily decrypted on our secure servers to ensure proper functionality of the services and to avoid unexpected charges to people. We preserve the privacy of that information while it's decrypted by only storing the domain name of your service and the amount of data being used—the same information that would be visible using end-to-end encryption—as well as cookies that are stored in an encrypted and unreadable format."
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- throwawaymath 8y ago> Any philantrophic / good will effort that has a business agenda behind it can't really be trusted. Why? Most philanthropic ventures have agendas that aren't purely altruistic. If you don't call a particular agenda an agenda, it might be because you agree with it.
- whatshisface 8y ago>If you don't call a particular agenda an agenda, it might be because you agree with it. Let's not be confused by the word "agenda." What's being talked about is "a hidden goal pursued under the cover of a facade goal," not "a list of tasks."
- throwawaymath 8y agoOkay. My point stands.
- chii 8y agono it doesn't. The agenda of the Gates foundation is not the same as the 'agendas' Facebook has. But there's an easy way to judge. The actions will stand for themselves.