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Funny to see this in light of our conversation yesterday [1] This should be read with extreme skepticism. I have experienced first hand how 'science' is done i
by andbberger 8y ago
Funny to see this in light of our conversation yesterday [1]
This should be read with extreme skepticism. I have experienced first hand how 'science' is done in the Turaga lab. I have on multiple occasions been pressured to cut corners and do shady things in the name of results.
In light of my experience, I require extra-extraordinary evidence to believe anything coming out of that lab....
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17306673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17306673
- paradroid 8y agoIt's theoretical neuroscience. If you have philosophical difference write a position paper.
- andbberger 8y ago?? I don't have a philosophical difference. I just don't believe they did their due diligence. Based on my personal experience in the lab where I was constantly pressured to do garbage science in the name of shiny results...
- stochastic_monk 8y agoThis sounds a little like a lab I was once part of. I’m now in an entirely different field of research.
- paradroid 8y agoThat's a philosophical difference. I don't disagree, but given the various constraints involved what you're asking isn't possible. Additionally, I'd note that it sounds like they are practicing Lean methodology - which is justifiable. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-method/#MetPra https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-method/#MetPra
- andbberger 8y agoI'm sorry, what am I asking?
- paradroid 8y agoIn your own words, you are asking for 'science'. And if you click the link through to the SEP, you'll see that it's well documented that this is, in the words of Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science.
- c3534l 8y agoIf I work in a kitchen with unsanitary working practices, does that mean I have a philosophical difference with the restaurant because I don't want to eat their filthy food?
- paradroid 8y agoThe comparison falls flat in too many ways.
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- joe_the_user 8y agoWell, also this claim is definitely something that would represent an extraordinary advance. Any detailed correspondence between machine learning neural nets and actual neurology would be quite a step and not something neurologist or machine learning experts expect.
- paradroid 8y agoNeurology is the study of disorders of the nervous system. This is theoretical neuroscience. FTFY.
- andreyk 8y agoNot entirely true, as highlighted by a CVPR 2017 key note talk modeling/comparing neural activations to deep learning activations has been done already so this is not wholly novel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilbbVkIhMgo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilbbVkIhMgo
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