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>It's called Data Protection Officer and you only need to appoint one if processing personal data is your core business, which is reasonable. Not commenting on

>It's called Data Protection Officer and you only need to appoint one if processing personal data is your core business, which is reasonable. Not commenting on the validity of this statement but it's interesting how I can tell from which continent you are from just by you saying that the regulation forcing a business to hire DPO is reasonable.

lima 8y ago
Yes, I'm from Europe, and it's my opinion that the GDPR is very necessary and mostly reasonable. I say that even though it caused me a lot of work for the past months. The requirement to hire a DPO is not a new thing, by the way - many countries in the EU already required this. This is true for many provisions in the GDPR - in Germany, for example, very little changes from the way it used to be, their data protection law was strict to begin with. The big difference is that companies would just ignore the laws in, say, Germany since they were operating from Ireland, and would claim that the German courts had no jurisdiction. Now, it's the same everywhere in Europe, which makes it much easier to enforce.
- lajhsdfkl 8y ago
  >The requirement to hire a DPO is not a new thing, by the way - many countries in the EU already required this. This is true for many provisions in the GDPR - in Germany, for example, very little changes from the way it used to be, their data protection law was strict to begin with. Good for those countries? I'm not going to be happy with the idea of hiring some idiot to sit around and do nothing all day.
  - Quanttek 8y ago
    Jesús Christ, how disingenuous can you be? "Hiring" a DPO basically means appointing someone to the role who will take over these responsibilities. Depending on the size of your firm, the workload might be quite low and somebody can do it on the side, or, if you're talking Facebook, you might have a small department to do it.
oaiey 8y ago
I am writing replies on GDPR topics the other way around ("I see you are from the US"). GDPR is a regulation for a topic which is important in the European societies. Not so much in the US (free capitalism) or China (social score).
- lajhsdfkl 8y ago
  I mean, fine. I'm not an EU citizen, I think GDPR is a pain in ass but ultimately is not my decision no matter how much I judge you all. But it does frustrate me that you all believe that GDPR will somehow be good for you. I've seen it said multiple times that when a massive American media company decides to pull out of the EU that a European alternative will emerge that is GDPR compliant and replace it. Do you actually believe that if the economics of GDPR compliance did not work for a large American business that it will somehow work out for a small EU startup? The only way I can see it work out is if GDPR is selectively enforced against American business which it seems obvious to me that will be the case.
  - danieldk 8y ago
    I think GDPR is a pain in ass but ultimately is not my decision no matter how much I judge you all. Why judge at all? Europe has an extremely troubled history when it comes to abuse of private data - WW2, Franco, the Stasi, infiltration of moderate left-wing groups when the RAF was active, communism in East Europe. So, can you blame us for being protective of our privacy? But it does frustrate me that you all believe that GDPR will somehow be good for you. Why not? Many countries already had strong privacy protections, but non-EU companies could retract itself in various ways. So, it hasn't been a level playing field for a long time, since EU companies had to provide these protections. So, it is good for EU companies. It is exceptionally good for European citizens - they have a choice in how their data is used. US companies will eventually come around, Europe is a large and wealthy market. And complying with regulations is a walk in the park compared to e.g. China, Russia, or India. The only way I can see it work out is if GDPR is selectively enforced against American business which it seems obvious to me that will be the case. Please let this myth die for once and for all. The largest fines handed out by the EC affect European companies: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/27/the-largest-fines-dished-out-by-the-eu-commission-facebook-google.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/27/the-largest-fines-dished-out...
IshKebab 8y ago
You don't have to hire anyone. You just have to appoint someone.

lima 8y ago

Yes, I'm from Europe, and it's my opinion that the GDPR is very necessary and mostly reasonable. I say that even though it caused me a lot of work for the past months. The requirement to hire a DPO is not a new thing, by the way - many countries in the EU already required this. This is true for many provisions in the GDPR - in Germany, for example, very little changes from the way it used to be, their data protection law was strict to begin with. The big difference is that companies would just ignore the laws in, say, Germany since they were operating from Ireland, and would claim that the German courts had no jurisdiction. Now, it's the same everywhere in Europe, which makes it much easier to enforce.

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
>The requirement to hire a DPO is not a new thing, by the way - many countries in the EU already required this. This is true for many provisions in the GDPR - in Germany, for example, very little changes from the way it used to be, their data protection law was strict to begin with. Good for those countries? I'm not going to be happy with the idea of hiring some idiot to sit around and do nothing all day.
- Quanttek 8y ago
  Jesús Christ, how disingenuous can you be? "Hiring" a DPO basically means appointing someone to the role who will take over these responsibilities. Depending on the size of your firm, the workload might be quite low and somebody can do it on the side, or, if you're talking Facebook, you might have a small department to do it.

oaiey 8y ago

I am writing replies on GDPR topics the other way around ("I see you are from the US"). GDPR is a regulation for a topic which is important in the European societies. Not so much in the US (free capitalism) or China (social score).

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
I mean, fine. I'm not an EU citizen, I think GDPR is a pain in ass but ultimately is not my decision no matter how much I judge you all. But it does frustrate me that you all believe that GDPR will somehow be good for you. I've seen it said multiple times that when a massive American media company decides to pull out of the EU that a European alternative will emerge that is GDPR compliant and replace it. Do you actually believe that if the economics of GDPR compliance did not work for a large American business that it will somehow work out for a small EU startup? The only way I can see it work out is if GDPR is selectively enforced against American business which it seems obvious to me that will be the case.
- danieldk 8y ago
  I think GDPR is a pain in ass but ultimately is not my decision no matter how much I judge you all. Why judge at all? Europe has an extremely troubled history when it comes to abuse of private data - WW2, Franco, the Stasi, infiltration of moderate left-wing groups when the RAF was active, communism in East Europe. So, can you blame us for being protective of our privacy? But it does frustrate me that you all believe that GDPR will somehow be good for you. Why not? Many countries already had strong privacy protections, but non-EU companies could retract itself in various ways. So, it hasn't been a level playing field for a long time, since EU companies had to provide these protections. So, it is good for EU companies. It is exceptionally good for European citizens - they have a choice in how their data is used. US companies will eventually come around, Europe is a large and wealthy market. And complying with regulations is a walk in the park compared to e.g. China, Russia, or India. The only way I can see it work out is if GDPR is selectively enforced against American business which it seems obvious to me that will be the case. Please let this myth die for once and for all. The largest fines handed out by the EC affect European companies: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/27/the-largest-fines-dished-out-by-the-eu-commission-facebook-google.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/27/the-largest-fines-dished-out...

IshKebab 8y ago

You don't have to hire anyone. You just have to appoint someone.