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Does this mean the technology is so early that they are struggling to program it to do the right thing in normal conditions, let alone to prevent an accident?

by sly010 8y ago

rossdavidh 8y ago
It sure suggests the possibility of, "that thing keeps braking when we don't want it to, turn it off". When, you know, human drivers manage to do quite fine with it on. If you have to disable the built-in safety features of the Volvo to get your driving software to work, then you're not ready to do a road test.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  One wild guess would be their equipment interfering. Still seems legendarily stupid to just disable the possible free backup to your totally inadequate system, however.
- uxp100 8y ago
  I don't think that is right. My understanding is that they didn't HAVE to turn the built-in safety features of the Volvo off to make it work, but instead they had to in order to test their equivalent safety feature. If they have a feature that exactly mimics Volvo's, it can't be tested while Volvo's is active (or at least that is the idea, I think it probably could be tested in some way.) But then they turned their own safety feature off, because it failed to be as good as Volvo's. And then did not turn Volvo's feature back on.
  - marcosdumay 8y ago
    You either works with higher error margins than the Volvo software (what should be the case, since yours is being tested), or you log your software decisions and compare with the Volvo's one after the fact.
    - uxp100 8y ago
      Right, that makes sense. I think they were really underestimating the risks of distracted driving. Which I think a lot of people (myself included) do.
akira2501 8y ago
Does this mean the problem is more complicated and nuanced than we had originally assumed so that they are constantly going to struggle to program it to even barely match the performance of a human being? I'm still disappointed that the system has to use underlying maps to know where lanes are and what the speed limits are in them. What happens when the map is less than 100% perfect?

Does this mean the technology is so early that they are struggling to program it to do the right thing in normal conditions, let alone to prevent an accident?

by sly010 8y ago

Does this mean the technology is so early that they are struggling to program it to do the right thing in normal conditions, let alone to prevent an accident?

rossdavidh 8y ago

It sure suggests the possibility of, "that thing keeps braking when we don't want it to, turn it off". When, you know, human drivers manage to do quite fine with it on. If you have to disable the built-in safety features of the Volvo to get your driving software to work, then you're not ready to do a road test.

solarkraft 8y ago
One wild guess would be their equipment interfering. Still seems legendarily stupid to just disable the possible free backup to your totally inadequate system, however.
uxp100 8y ago
I don't think that is right. My understanding is that they didn't HAVE to turn the built-in safety features of the Volvo off to make it work, but instead they had to in order to test their equivalent safety feature. If they have a feature that exactly mimics Volvo's, it can't be tested while Volvo's is active (or at least that is the idea, I think it probably could be tested in some way.) But then they turned their own safety feature off, because it failed to be as good as Volvo's. And then did not turn Volvo's feature back on.
- marcosdumay 8y ago
  You either works with higher error margins than the Volvo software (what should be the case, since yours is being tested), or you log your software decisions and compare with the Volvo's one after the fact.
  - uxp100 8y ago
    Right, that makes sense. I think they were really underestimating the risks of distracted driving. Which I think a lot of people (myself included) do.

akira2501 8y ago

Does this mean the problem is more complicated and nuanced than we had originally assumed so that they are constantly going to struggle to program it to even barely match the performance of a human being? I'm still disappointed that the system has to use underlying maps to know where lanes are and what the speed limits are in them. What happens when the map is less than 100% perfect?