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Is there a way to opt out of this?

by dannyw 9y ago

jdavis703 9y ago
Turn your cell phone off when you don't need it. I used to turn my phone off more, and should probably resume that habit.
- rcthompson 9y ago
  Would activating airplane mode be sufficient?
- Simon_says 9y ago
  How do you know it’s off?
  - rcthompson 9y ago
    If you really need to be sure, you have to get a phone with a removable battery.
    - amelius 9y ago
      But also make sure to discharge those capacitors. Or turn it off and wrap it in tinfoil.
      - anoncoward111 9y ago
        This is a funny use case. Like, obviously I don't want my location tracked, but clearly I have just accepted that it's happening in exchange for being able to text my girlfriend. But, I'm trying to think of when this would actually be useful in my life. Maybe if I've been accused of a crime and the jail sentence is really steep, I become a fugitive and run away to live in the woods. But I still want to watch videos and take photos on my device offline? So i keep my phone in tinfoil when im using it?? haha
        amelius 9y ago
        Yes, if you use some more tinfoil, you can wrap it around yourself and your phone, and you'll be able to still use it. If you'd wrap the tinfoil around you and your gf, then you'd be able to text each other over wifi. You can also include e.g. family for even greater utility.
  - deleted 9y ago
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- xg15 9y ago
  A.k.a. never be available for any kind of call or message? Besides, even then they can track you whenever you do need your phone. That profile might not be realtime but it will still be sufficient to find out where you live, where you work and whether or not your on a trip.
13of40 9y ago
Have a Google Voice number as the one you share with people and forward it to your cell phone. That should stop casual stalkers and warrantless searches, since they would need to get Google or your cell provider to disclose the real number.
meritt 9y ago
Get a faraday bag for your phone is the easiest and most certain.
- gruez 9y ago
  ...or use airplane mode. but both methods is pointless because nobody will be able to call you.
  - meritt 9y ago
    Given the scenario we're talking about (ensuring your phone does not emit location signals) using airplane mode is placing a significant amount of trust in the phone manufacturer.
    - Fnoord 9y ago
      And whoever made the software (Google, Apple, etc). Part of reason is you don't know what it'll log whilst its offline. A hardware kill switch the Librem 5 will have, but apparently they're using some kind of GTK UI. The best solution is IMO not having your phone, or leaving it at home. Bruce Schneier already wrote about this on his blog and his latest book (Data and Goliath). Every time we take our phone with us, we make the decision to be tracked by a myriad of organisations. We need to be conscious about this decision because we do have a choice here: the choice to keep the phone home.
walterbell 9y ago
Use a device without a radio.

Is there a way to opt out of this?

by dannyw 9y ago

Is there a way to opt out of this?

Turn your cell phone off when you don't need it. I used to turn my phone off more, and should probably resume that habit.

rcthompson 9y ago
Would activating airplane mode be sufficient?
Simon_says 9y ago
How do you know it’s off?
- rcthompson 9y ago
  If you really need to be sure, you have to get a phone with a removable battery.
  - amelius 9y ago
    But also make sure to discharge those capacitors. Or turn it off and wrap it in tinfoil.
    - anoncoward111 9y ago
      This is a funny use case. Like, obviously I don't want my location tracked, but clearly I have just accepted that it's happening in exchange for being able to text my girlfriend. But, I'm trying to think of when this would actually be useful in my life. Maybe if I've been accused of a crime and the jail sentence is really steep, I become a fugitive and run away to live in the woods. But I still want to watch videos and take photos on my device offline? So i keep my phone in tinfoil when im using it?? haha
      - amelius 9y ago
        Yes, if you use some more tinfoil, you can wrap it around yourself and your phone, and you'll be able to still use it. If you'd wrap the tinfoil around you and your gf, then you'd be able to text each other over wifi. You can also include e.g. family for even greater utility.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
xg15 9y ago
A.k.a. never be available for any kind of call or message? Besides, even then they can track you whenever you do need your phone. That profile might not be realtime but it will still be sufficient to find out where you live, where you work and whether or not your on a trip.

13of40 9y ago

Have a Google Voice number as the one you share with people and forward it to your cell phone. That should stop casual stalkers and warrantless searches, since they would need to get Google or your cell provider to disclose the real number.

meritt 9y ago

Get a faraday bag for your phone is the easiest and most certain.

gruez 9y ago
...or use airplane mode. but both methods is pointless because nobody will be able to call you.
- meritt 9y ago
  Given the scenario we're talking about (ensuring your phone does not emit location signals) using airplane mode is placing a significant amount of trust in the phone manufacturer.
  - Fnoord 9y ago
    And whoever made the software (Google, Apple, etc). Part of reason is you don't know what it'll log whilst its offline. A hardware kill switch the Librem 5 will have, but apparently they're using some kind of GTK UI. The best solution is IMO not having your phone, or leaving it at home. Bruce Schneier already wrote about this on his blog and his latest book (Data and Goliath). Every time we take our phone with us, we make the decision to be tracked by a myriad of organisations. We need to be conscious about this decision because we do have a choice here: the choice to keep the phone home.

walterbell 9y ago

Use a device without a radio.