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It's actually very bad advice, do not do this. All of the literature will plainly tell you this is a bad idea.
by jumpmancw 8y ago
It's actually very bad advice, do not do this. All of the literature will plainly tell you this is a bad idea.
- bpizzi 8y agoEspecially with deadlift, back injuries are no fun at all.
- jvagner 8y agoIndeed. Working up to a deadlift max doesn't take a lot of time, or a ton of sets. Like, 4-6 sets of 3-4 reps. Longevity and injury-prevention is key to long-term gym vitality... but people don't usually appreciate this until they injure themselves somehow. <40-something lifter, out...>
- mkirklions 8y agoSeconding this. 1 heavy deadlift set usually means 15 minutes of warmups.
- InitialLastName 8y agoPfft what could those scientists/doctors/trainers/experienced athletes possibly know that some dude on the internet can't anecdote his way into correctness? /s
- mkirklions 8y agoEngineer/trainer/experienced athlete here I thought using the potential energy equation gave me a little credentials. I also wrote a book about this topic. But I didnt include it in the comment.
- ropeadopepope 8y agoCould you link to the book?
- mkirklions 8y agoAfter doing strength training for years, it is all part of the routine. You cannot do 5x5 deadlift sets once you are past 4 plates.
- matwood 8y agoSure you can, it's just that progress goes much slower. When I finally got into the 500s I was counting 1/2 and 1/4 reps as progress. For example, if I got 525 for 3-1/4 reps for one workout, and later got 3-1/2 reps, that was progress. Keep in mind for me that later could be weeks or months as I'm not naturally big.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y agoYou can, but it's not a lot of fun. I did it for years as a modified BBB element in 5/3/1. I have, at various times done 5x5 squat past 4 plates as well. Didn't last more then 3 weeks before I had to back off, I'm too old to recover from that, but I was working Texas Method at 415 lbs, which was just as hard as it sounds.
- patrickg_zill 8y agoMy point is, actually, that whenever someone says "I just do 1 set or 1 rep and am done, after warmup" that the warmup sets are really part of the exercise... looks like mkirklions responded and really he does 5 sets with increasing weight, then does his heaviest. So it is more like the classic "pyramid" or "increased weight until near-exhaustion" sets, which have been around since forever...
- jumpmancw 8y agoIt depends on what percentage of his 1rm he's doing. I use 531 and it's based off a training max which is 90% of your 1rm. You never lift heavier than about 85% of your 1rm on the program because doing so is heavily taxing on your CNS. Unless he is using PEDs he probably won't last long-term if he's lifting close to his 1rm twice a week.