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Meh blog post. Here's the interactive chart at Eurostat: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/RCI/#?vis=nuts2.labourmarket&lang=en http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/ca

• yiyus 8y ago
  This is so much better. Thank you very much!
• netrus 8y ago
  German perspective: Wow, what a dramatic shift in Eastern Germany! Maybe it is just a general upwards trend in Germany with little room for improvement in Southern Germany, but it might also be the beginning of the end of Eastern Germany's under performance. I will certainly investigate further.
  • k__ 8y ago
    When I saw the chart I thought: "Well, Germany doesn't look too bad, funny that the people in Eastern Germany always complain."
  • Cthulhu_ 8y ago
    I think it could do with an extra dimension for eastern Germany, e.g. wages or relative wealth; having low unemployment is good, but if there's a big wage / wealth discrepancy between east and west there's still room for improvement.
    • nraynaud 8y ago
      That’s the whole debate, by forcing people to take one euro jobs, you lower the unemployment stats while increasing your poverty stats.
    • ptaipale 8y ago
      I would expect that the discrepancy that matters - wages vs. cost of living - has much bigger difference if you go from East Germany to Poland, Czech Republic or Slovakia, rather than in comparison to West Germany. I.e. purchasing power drops much more when you go east, compared to going west.
  • cleansy 8y ago
    I am from Brandenburg originally and am very surprised that Berlins unemployment rate is higher than Brandenburg's?! I checked statista[1][2] and indeed, it is. When I grew up it was around 18%. 1: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/2519/umfrage/entwicklung-der-arbeitslosenquote-in-berlin-seit-1999/ https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/2519/umfrage/... 2: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/762452/umfrage/arbeitslosenquote-in-brandenburg/ https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/762452/umfrag...
    • dx034 8y ago
      People moving away from the countryside to cities could be a big factor. That leaves rural areas with a lot of older folks (that don't count as unemployed) while jobseekers are in bigger cities. Why should you be unemployed in rural Brandenburg when you could as well move to Berlin where there's a higher chance for a job? That could also explain why the rate in Northeastern Germany has decreased that much, both areas are mostly rural.
• Zenst 8y ago
  Curious how they are using colourisation in the opposite way. They have the low levels of unemployment as orange with the darker shades as the lowest and use blue for higher levels of unemployment, again the darker shades to indicate the highest employment. So the concerning area's show as blue and the ok area's show as panic inducing Orange instinctively. Most odd.
  • matthewmacleod 8y ago
    I think you’ve got that back to front!
    • coffeeacc 8y ago
      In the original.
    • Zenst 8y ago
      Nope,I'm referring to the comment link: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/RCI/#?vis=nuts2.labourmarket&lang=en http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/RCI/#?vis=nuts2.labourmar... The subject one linked has it the other, more logical way around.
  • teekert 8y ago
    Yeah, this is really very strange indeed to me as well.
• draugadrotten 8y ago
  The definition of "unemployment" is important here. it An unemployed person is defined by Eurostat, according to the guidelines of the International Labour Organization, as: > someone aged 15 to 74 (in Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom, Iceland, Norway: 16 to 74 years); > without work during the reference week; > available to start work within the next two weeks (or has already found a job to start within the next three months); > actively having sought employment at some time during the last four weeks. > The unemployment rate is the number of people unemployed as a percentage of the labour force. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Glossary:Unemployment http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/... This means that any person which is currently not earning their keep, but not actively searching a job (because they are on the dole) will not be unemployed in these statistics. It also means that any person which is not earning their keep, but unable to take a job in the next two weeks because the are in a government job market program, will not be listed as unemployed in these statistics. Lies, damn lies and statistics.
  • crispyporkbites 8y ago
    No - to be on the dole you need to be actively searching for a job in most jurisdictions in Europe. E.g. in the UK you need to go down to the job center every week and prove you're searching for a job in order to claim unemployment benefit. It's literally called jobseeker's allowance to reflect that. Also what is a "government job market program"? Are you referring to a government employing people en masse to inflate the employment rate? You generally need taxes to do that so it's probably a legitimate approach.
    • DanBC 8y ago
      JSA is being replaced by universal credit. People on UC need to spend 35 hours per week on their job search, and they need to be able to demonstrate this. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-and-your-claimant-commitment-quick-guide/universal-credit-and-your-claimant-commitment https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-... > You should think of jobseeking as a full-time job. You will be expected to look or prepare for work for 35 hours a week, depending on your circumstances. This requirement is robustly enforced. I mention this because there are some people in the UK who think that unemployed people in the UK can get away with not doing anything.
• vincvinc 8y ago
  This link (Same site, different settings) might be more directly understandable: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/RCI/#?vis=nuts2.labourmarket&lang=en http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/RCI/#?vis=nuts2.labourmar...