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Back then, Eclipse was this big, bloated and slow IDE. IntelliJ was slim, fast and much more intuitive and powerful in terms of refactoring, etc. Today, Intelli

by pikzel 8y ago

Back then, Eclipse was this big, bloated and slow IDE. IntelliJ was slim, fast and much more intuitive and powerful in terms of refactoring, etc. Today, IntelliJ is big, bloated and turning slow. Which IDE will be the next big thing?

ethbro 8y ago
It's true often enough to beg a question. I wonder if trying to maintain divergent builds of an IDE (core + plugin/bloat) would actually make sense? And then let the market give the company feedback on which it prefers. My gut says architecture decisions to enable bloat would still affect the core release, but maybe not? The central issue seems to be disconnect with what the market wants.
- simion314 8y ago
  Intellij has all or many of it's features as plugins, I think Eclipse had a similar architecture, the reason I switched to Intellij was the extra features and the good support for other languages
geezerjay 8y ago
It dependa on which language you'd want to use. Qt Creator does its job well for C++ although it does have a few kinks to iron out.
bullsandabears 8y ago
There are multiple ways to vastly increase Intellij performance. They also have 'Auto-share Settings' feature so you can keep a whole team in-sync with them through a repo. tweaks like: - they added their own custom property that speaks for itself: 'editor.zero.latency.typing=true' - it runs on a JVM, so update the JVM settings. (Like most apps, they ship with defaults that assume you're running your IDE on something with the memory of today's phone) - disable all unused plugins This comment might seem like evangelizing but I find Intellij to be what an IDE should be in many ways. It would be nice if there was a feature to use more performant settings. But that's likely a rabbit-hole to auto-determine for all variety of customer env. Maybe something to make people aware of their options at least would be a middle-ground.
- copperx 8y ago
  Isn't zero latency typing enabled by default now? I can't find the documentation now, but I clearly remember reading that.
smrtinsert 8y ago
People, Intellij's performance is fine, just like Eclipses was. Stop buying cheap old macs or switch to PCs. Tired of the same crap arguments. If your company doesn't want to spring for 3k laptops, get a 1k win laptop with the same specs.
- copperx 8y ago
  You can't fix code bloat with a faster computer. At least not for long.

by pikzel 8y ago

ethbro 8y ago

It's true often enough to beg a question. I wonder if trying to maintain divergent builds of an IDE (core + plugin/bloat) would actually make sense? And then let the market give the company feedback on which it prefers. My gut says architecture decisions to enable bloat would still affect the core release, but maybe not? The central issue seems to be disconnect with what the market wants.

simion314 8y ago
Intellij has all or many of it's features as plugins, I think Eclipse had a similar architecture, the reason I switched to Intellij was the extra features and the good support for other languages

geezerjay 8y ago

It dependa on which language you'd want to use. Qt Creator does its job well for C++ although it does have a few kinks to iron out.

bullsandabears 8y ago

There are multiple ways to vastly increase Intellij performance. They also have 'Auto-share Settings' feature so you can keep a whole team in-sync with them through a repo. tweaks like: - they added their own custom property that speaks for itself: 'editor.zero.latency.typing=true' - it runs on a JVM, so update the JVM settings. (Like most apps, they ship with defaults that assume you're running your IDE on something with the memory of today's phone) - disable all unused plugins This comment might seem like evangelizing but I find Intellij to be what an IDE should be in many ways. It would be nice if there was a feature to use more performant settings. But that's likely a rabbit-hole to auto-determine for all variety of customer env. Maybe something to make people aware of their options at least would be a middle-ground.

copperx 8y ago
Isn't zero latency typing enabled by default now? I can't find the documentation now, but I clearly remember reading that.

smrtinsert 8y ago

People, Intellij's performance is fine, just like Eclipses was. Stop buying cheap old macs or switch to PCs. Tired of the same crap arguments. If your company doesn't want to spring for 3k laptops, get a 1k win laptop with the same specs.

copperx 8y ago
You can't fix code bloat with a faster computer. At least not for long.