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Not sure about least secure, but clearly least production ready: High Sierra is like a public beta of the version to come.

beamatronic 9y ago
My IT department told me yesterday to avoid High Sierra at all costs! Is this the norm?
- et-al 9y ago
  Yes, avoid it unless you need to work on the latest Xcode.
  - gregoriol 9y ago
    Exactly what just happened to me: I was planning to stay on 10.12 for some more time, but now I need to do some testing on the new iPad 6, which is provided with iOS 11.3 in the box, which is only supported by the new xcode 9.3, which only works on macOS 10.13... #damnit
- 1123581321 9y ago
  Blindly updating a work machine to a brand-new release isn’t a good idea regardless of the OS. In High Sierra’s case, it took until the .2 release before we were fine with it. Keep in mind that IT departments (including myself here) like to have important things to say about software updates, especially when it’s about the OS that requires a lot less IT work. :)
  - radicaldreamer 9y ago
    Exactly, iOS and Mac developers excepted, very little productivity gain comes from updating to the latest version of the OS right away before all the compatibility kinks have been worked out. A lot of people have a (completely understandable) weakness for the latest and greatest though.
    - mcny 9y ago
      I thought just apple filesystem (assuming you're on SSD) would be enough to make you want to upgrade.
      - DuskStar 9y ago
        More like a new, not-yet-battle-tested, proprietary filesystem is enough of a reason NOT to upgrade...
  - e12e 9y ago
    I dunno. It's been years since I worried about updating a workstation to the latest Debian stable. Or server for that matter. So it's certainly not a question of resources. [ed: not that Debian hasn't had issues. Broken openssl/ssh key generation being perhaps one of the worst security issues in recent memory]
gregoriol 9y ago
What saddens me the most is that there are a lot of "small" issues that are found now (and by small I don't mean that they are not critical or important, just that they are a small feature/% of the whole), and we forget that Apple teams managed to upgrade the whole filesystem to APFS on this version of macOS, which is a huge feat. We haven't heard that many problems with the filesystem itself or with the upgrade, which is truly impressive at that scale and complexity.

beamatronic 9y ago

My IT department told me yesterday to avoid High Sierra at all costs! Is this the norm?

et-al 9y ago
Yes, avoid it unless you need to work on the latest Xcode.
- gregoriol 9y ago
  Exactly what just happened to me: I was planning to stay on 10.12 for some more time, but now I need to do some testing on the new iPad 6, which is provided with iOS 11.3 in the box, which is only supported by the new xcode 9.3, which only works on macOS 10.13... #damnit
1123581321 9y ago
Blindly updating a work machine to a brand-new release isn’t a good idea regardless of the OS. In High Sierra’s case, it took until the .2 release before we were fine with it. Keep in mind that IT departments (including myself here) like to have important things to say about software updates, especially when it’s about the OS that requires a lot less IT work. :)
- radicaldreamer 9y ago
  Exactly, iOS and Mac developers excepted, very little productivity gain comes from updating to the latest version of the OS right away before all the compatibility kinks have been worked out. A lot of people have a (completely understandable) weakness for the latest and greatest though.
  - mcny 9y ago
    I thought just apple filesystem (assuming you're on SSD) would be enough to make you want to upgrade.
    - DuskStar 9y ago
      More like a new, not-yet-battle-tested, proprietary filesystem is enough of a reason NOT to upgrade...
- e12e 9y ago
  I dunno. It's been years since I worried about updating a workstation to the latest Debian stable. Or server for that matter. So it's certainly not a question of resources. [ed: not that Debian hasn't had issues. Broken openssl/ssh key generation being perhaps one of the worst security issues in recent memory]

gregoriol 9y ago

What saddens me the most is that there are a lot of "small" issues that are found now (and by small I don't mean that they are not critical or important, just that they are a small feature/% of the whole), and we forget that Apple teams managed to upgrade the whole filesystem to APFS on this version of macOS, which is a huge feat. We haven't heard that many problems with the filesystem itself or with the upgrade, which is truly impressive at that scale and complexity.