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Awarded NZ$60,000 for “loss of dignity and injury to feelings” haha

by aogl 9y ago

proaralyst 9y ago
Why the laugh? The State caused him injury. Would it be better to leave the injustice alone? Just say sorry? If this were a civil case he'd certainly be awarded monetary damages.
- baybal2 9y ago
  Compared to payouts in other common law jurisdictions, that is, indeed, laughable.
  - ztoben 9y ago
    What would a typical payout be?
    - balabaster 9y ago
      I reckon $500 million should do it :P
    - baybal2 9y ago
      Add two zeroes. In commom common law, defamation damages are all, but damages: they are a sum of assumed and punitive damages. If accused is a corp., already large punitive damages are scaled to its size. UK's record damages were in above GPB 2M
      - bloak 9y ago
        Punitive damages are a daft concept and only exist in the USA, I hope. GPB must be the Guadalupe Banana, right? Perhaps they have punitive damages in Guadalupe...
- paulie_a 9y ago
  Kim dotcom would have to have dignity first in order to lose it
- nothrabannosir 9y ago
  Not op, but I do agree there is something hilariously ironic about that verdict, given the circumstances. In a “haha serves you right” kind of way.
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imglorp 9y ago
A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt. Ordinarily for white collar crime, you'd expect a knock on the door and to be handed a summons, not full terrorism mode. You'd also expect your government to follow its due process, again not denying rights in full terrorism mode. Oligarchy at work.
- toomanybeersies 9y ago
  That's not actually what this court case is about. This case was about the government refusing to give Kim Dotcom information they held about him.
- jashmatthews 9y ago
  A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt. Not in New Zealand, they don't. Although Hollywood did put pressure on the NZ government to do a full tactical raid on this guys house.
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  - shawabawa3 9y ago
    They broke into the guys house with loaded automatic weapons. That's putting everyone involved in lethal danger, no matter what country it's in
    - djsumdog 9y ago
      And Many people who used Megaupload for legit data storage lost all of it after the US raids. Customer data still hasn't been recovered.
  - djsumdog 9y ago
    NZ cops do carry guns, just typically not on their person. They're locked in the boot of their vehicles. I have seen an NZ officer with their firearm on them and it's weird enough that everyone takes notice; like seeing litter in a mall in Singapore.
mtgx 9y ago
I assume you're laughing because the sum was so small. It should have been at least 100x larger, in the millions.
- peebtkxs 9y ago
  Agreed. The time he’s lost through this attrition is criminal. International Government seizure is ridiculous.
- MentallyRetired 9y ago
  Agreed, but I will admit I chuckled when I read "loss of dignity" and "injury to feelings". They could at least call it emotional damages. I don't think he was laughing at the amount or at Kim but at the legal title of the relief.
- xtrapolate 9y ago
  Why are you being down-voted? What's going on? This case has been going on for years; he has been through hell. How is this a proper reimbursement? Edit: Forgot it's yet another echo chamber community.
- Taniwha 9y ago
  New Zealand doesn't do damages like that, that's an American thing
balabaster 9y ago
Ironically, this whole case seems to have turned him into a modern day Robin Hood. I'd say this disaster of a situation has done far from cause him loss of dignity and injury to his feelings. I'd say it's cemented a status that many aspire to and very few ever achieve. His personality has been magnified many times more than it ever would have been by this whole debacle. So to be awarded NZ$60K for this is hilarious. Award it to him for "inconvenience to his life" or "defamation", "libel" or "slander" or whatever, but "loss of dignity and injury to feelings" is disingenuous at best. The guy's infamy has reached heroic proportions.
- slg 9y ago
  >this whole case seems to have turned him into a modern day Robin Hood. This dude is a professional troll and you comparing him to Robin Hood means you are falling for his schtick. The most recent example of his trolling is the fact that he has become one of the biggest public supporters of the conspiracy theory that Seth Rich was behind the DNC leaks and not Russia.
  - balabaster 9y ago
    Um... Robin Hood was a fictional character. The schtick is what makes the legend. Without the schtick, he's just some schmuck that got busted for trafficking illegal copies of files. Don't confuse "being thoroughly amused by" with "falling for."
    - slg 9y ago
      At the heart of the story Robin Hood is about a good person who was breaking unjust laws to fight for the little guy. Kim Dotcom wants you to think he is breaking unjust laws to fight for the little guy but he is actually doing it for his own personal enrichment either financially or egotistically. That it the distinction I want to make that I think was missing from your initial comment.
      - balabaster 9y ago

Awarded NZ$60,000 for “loss of dignity and injury to feelings” haha

by aogl 9y ago

Awarded NZ$60,000 for “loss of dignity and injury to feelings” haha

Why the laugh? The State caused him injury. Would it be better to leave the injustice alone? Just say sorry? If this were a civil case he'd certainly be awarded monetary damages.

baybal2 9y ago
Compared to payouts in other common law jurisdictions, that is, indeed, laughable.
- ztoben 9y ago
  What would a typical payout be?
  - balabaster 9y ago
    I reckon $500 million should do it :P
  - baybal2 9y ago
    Add two zeroes. In commom common law, defamation damages are all, but damages: they are a sum of assumed and punitive damages. If accused is a corp., already large punitive damages are scaled to its size. UK's record damages were in above GPB 2M
    - bloak 9y ago
      Punitive damages are a daft concept and only exist in the USA, I hope. GPB must be the Guadalupe Banana, right? Perhaps they have punitive damages in Guadalupe...
paulie_a 9y ago
Kim dotcom would have to have dignity first in order to lose it
nothrabannosir 9y ago
Not op, but I do agree there is something hilariously ironic about that verdict, given the circumstances. In a “haha serves you right” kind of way.
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imglorp 9y ago

A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt. Ordinarily for white collar crime, you'd expect a knock on the door and to be handed a summons, not full terrorism mode. You'd also expect your government to follow its due process, again not denying rights in full terrorism mode. Oligarchy at work.

toomanybeersies 9y ago
That's not actually what this court case is about. This case was about the government refusing to give Kim Dotcom information they held about him.
jashmatthews 9y ago
A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt. Not in New Zealand, they don't. Although Hollywood did put pressure on the NZ government to do a full tactical raid on this guys house.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- shawabawa3 9y ago
  They broke into the guys house with loaded automatic weapons. That's putting everyone involved in lethal danger, no matter what country it's in
  - djsumdog 9y ago
    And Many people who used Megaupload for legit data storage lost all of it after the US raids. Customer data still hasn't been recovered.
- djsumdog 9y ago
  NZ cops do carry guns, just typically not on their person. They're locked in the boot of their vehicles. I have seen an NZ officer with their firearm on them and it's weird enough that everyone takes notice; like seeing litter in a mall in Singapore.

mtgx 9y ago

I assume you're laughing because the sum was so small. It should have been at least 100x larger, in the millions.

peebtkxs 9y ago
Agreed. The time he’s lost through this attrition is criminal. International Government seizure is ridiculous.
MentallyRetired 9y ago
Agreed, but I will admit I chuckled when I read "loss of dignity" and "injury to feelings". They could at least call it emotional damages. I don't think he was laughing at the amount or at Kim but at the legal title of the relief.
xtrapolate 9y ago
Why are you being down-voted? What's going on? This case has been going on for years; he has been through hell. How is this a proper reimbursement? Edit: Forgot it's yet another echo chamber community.
Taniwha 9y ago
New Zealand doesn't do damages like that, that's an American thing

balabaster 9y ago

Ironically, this whole case seems to have turned him into a modern day Robin Hood. I'd say this disaster of a situation has done far from cause him loss of dignity and injury to his feelings. I'd say it's cemented a status that many aspire to and very few ever achieve. His personality has been magnified many times more than it ever would have been by this whole debacle. So to be awarded NZ$60K for this is hilarious. Award it to him for "inconvenience to his life" or "defamation", "libel" or "slander" or whatever, but "loss of dignity and injury to feelings" is disingenuous at best. The guy's infamy has reached heroic proportions.

slg 9y ago
>this whole case seems to have turned him into a modern day Robin Hood. This dude is a professional troll and you comparing him to Robin Hood means you are falling for his schtick. The most recent example of his trolling is the fact that he has become one of the biggest public supporters of the conspiracy theory that Seth Rich was behind the DNC leaks and not Russia.
- balabaster 9y ago
  Um... Robin Hood was a fictional character. The schtick is what makes the legend. Without the schtick, he's just some schmuck that got busted for trafficking illegal copies of files. Don't confuse "being thoroughly amused by" with "falling for."
  - slg 9y ago
    At the heart of the story Robin Hood is about a good person who was breaking unjust laws to fight for the little guy. Kim Dotcom wants you to think he is breaking unjust laws to fight for the little guy but he is actually doing it for his own personal enrichment either financially or egotistically. That it the distinction I want to make that I think was missing from your initial comment.
    - balabaster 9y ago