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Something Mysterious Is Killing Captive Gorillas
- EugeneOZ 9y agoIn the age of information overload, every article should have "dry" version, without tones of water, just list of facts.
- gerbilly 9y agoIt's the diet, but probably also the confinement. It's like putting people in jail. It saps your will to live.
- creep 9y agoI agree with you, I don't know why you've been down voted. A will to live is actually one of the most important factors in surviving any injury or even any psychological upset. It's a really strange phenomenon if you think about it. Conceptually you'd think you would die from a fatal injury whether or not you wanted to live, or that you would survive if your injury was not fatal or if you had no injury at all, but that psychological component of wanting to die vs. not wanting to die can tip the scales to the other end, miraculously. I suppose the most extreme example is suicide in otherwise healthy adults. Here is a rather long article on the subject in humans: https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-24/edition-1/survival-psychology-wont-live https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-24/edition-1/survi...
- DoreenMichele 9y agoIt's like putting people in jail who committed no crime and giving them no explanation as to why they have been deprived of freedom. That would make an awful lot of people suicidal.
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- ataturk 9y agoHarambe.
- loxs 9y agoTL;DR - fibrosing cardiomyopathy caused by wrecked microbiome, because by shitty food - low in fiber.
- paulsmal 9y agoThank you. I wish more writers cared about readers time and include TL;DR in first paragraph with more detailed content below
- dredmorbius 9y agoInverted Pyramid. It's Good Journalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism)
- unclebucknasty 9y agoTotally agree. Better yet, don't present an article whose value is premised on a set of facts as some kind of novella. >Just before 8 o’clock on a snowy Wednesday morning, deep in a maze of doors and steel fencing... Good grief. Just tell us what's happening.
- gondo 9y agothey need you to capture your attention to display you the ads. how else would they earn money? or do you expect them to work for free? would you work for free? would you pay for this article? i certainly wouldn't even though i was curious about the answer
- applecrazy 9y agoMaybe someone should start a website that collects user submitted TL;DRs for URLs and has a chrome extension to inject the tldr on the page.
- pirocks 9y agoI believe this already exists. http://tldr.guru/ http://tldr.guru/
- ibdf 9y agoThis is one of those articles that I don't want to read because the answer is in the title. Captivity is killing the Gorillas, the illness they are developing is a result of it.
- arekkas 9y agoAs loxs points out, it's actually bad food.
- ibdf 9y agoyes. the food they received while in captivity.
- Dylan16807 9y agoYou say as if there's no way to get a bad food supply outside of captivity. It's not a inherent part of captivity. If some prison started beheading people every thursday, it wouldn't be "prison" that kills people, it would be the beheadings.
- vikascoder 9y agoI do not get the concept of a zoo. I have been to a real jungle safari recently and it struck me how obviously different animals are in their own vast natural habitat than in a zoo. A Zoo may serve some educational purposes maybe but it is cruel to just artificially cage animals cause you are too lazy to make a massive effort to go see wild animals in their natural habitat. One is not supposed to encounter wild animals according to convenience. Everytime I have been to a zoo I have seen the saddest animals around. One can argue about the merits of commercial safari but if it's part of a national park system with carefully controlled traffic, it's actually far enlightening than a visit to a zoo.
- openasocket 9y agoIt's important not to underestimate the value of zoos in conservation. The southern white rhino, arabian oryx, and Przewalski's horse were all extinct in the wild, and conservation efforts on zoos and private preserves have re-introduced all three of those species back to the wild. The Przewalski's horse is still listed as endangered in the wild, but the oryx is now vulnerable and the southern white rhino is not threatened. That's three species saved from extinction via zoos that I can name from a few minutes of research (technically the oryx and rhino also involved breeding programs on private preserves, but zoos played an integral part of the reintroduction). There's also ample research opportunities available in zoos that would be impractical or irresponsible to do in the wild. This research not only improves our understanding of these creatures, but can provide highlight the importance of protecting them, and even provide insight into how best to protect them. I won't deny that there are zoos in the world that mistreat animals, but there are also some truly spectacular ones. In the US, I highly recommend the DC Zoo, the Omaha Zoo, and the San Diego Zoo. These zoos provide ample space for their animals, and manage them using only positive feedback. In the DC Zoo, I know that medical services like vaccines for the Orangutans, for example, are entirely voluntary. They don't capture or sedate or force the Orangutans to get shots, but rather coax them with a reward (in this case, the zookeeper told me the reward is a cup of honey).
- trendia 9y agoI didn't think this would ever be relevant:a man decides to eat nothing but monkey pellets. Interesting things happen to his gut. http://www.angryman.ca/monkey.html http://www.angryman.ca/monkey.html
- wafflesraccoon 9y agoDoes anyone have the videos for this? I remember watching them years ago but they seem to be removed now.
- Confiks 9y agoThe video links somehow have the domain removed. If you add them in, you'll end up here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juwvwu3Z5HI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juwvwu3Z5HI
- jonknee 9y agoWhat interesting things? It appears he went a week and didn't seem to enjoy it. I imagine that would be the case for any diet where you only eat the same thing for a week.
- chengiz 9y agoYes I was hoping for a Supersize Me type experiment. I actually tried to scroll down a couple of times not noticing the page had ended. Very underwhelming.
- EggsOnToast 9y agoWas the food log from Supersize Me ever released? It's been a few years so maybe things have changed, but the last time I checked there was a severe lack of real information in Supersize Me to support the claims the guy was making.
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- saudioger 9y agoTurns out it's all the captivity
- moneytide1 9y agoLow morale from being captive.
- coldacid 9y agoLow fiber from cheap diets.