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New Maps Reveal Global Fishing's 'Vast Scope of Exploitation of the Ocean'

206 points by acdanger 9y ago

chrisb 9y ago
Interactive version of this map showing fishing activity: http://globalfishingwatch.org/map/ http://globalfishingwatch.org/map/
singularity2001 9y ago
At least "exclusive economic zones" around islands are mostly respected
- IshKebab 9y ago
  Or they turn off their transponders or whatever.
  - contingencies 9y ago
    Yes. Or don't have them. If you believe this map nobody fishes on either coast of Thailand or Peninsular Malaysia at all. Not true! Probably the map heavily skews to showing only points from large vessels in international waters and most vessels in well regulated / developed countries' waters.
    - jabl 9y ago
      The map is mostly based on AIS data; AIS transponders are only required on vessels larger than 100 tons, thus excluding smaller coastal fishing vessels. EDIT According to wikipedia, I'm wrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_syste... ). The international limit (IMO SOLAS) is apparently 300 gross tons, though local jurisdictions can have stricter requirements, e.g. it mentions that the EU requires all fishing vessels longer than 16m to be equipped. EDIT2 wikipedia is wrong, the EU limit for fishing vessels is 15m as of 2014-05-31 (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009R1224&from=EN http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELE...).
      - glup 9y ago
        I was just going to look for this information, thanks!
- losteric 9y ago
  I highly doubt islands are respected considering Chinese trawlers are found invading territory as far as Argentina
bahmboo 9y ago
Somewhat related https://www.kaggle.com/c/the-nature-conservancy-fisheries-monitoring https://www.kaggle.com/c/the-nature-conservancy-fisheries-mo...
spodek 9y ago
They're responding to people who buy fish, which is most people, so it's less "Global Fishing's" and more "Humanity's Exploitation of the Ocean". The maps look like a comment on our population growth, or a call to reduce that growth if we don't want nature to reduce it for us. Eating more plants instead of fish and other forms of efficiency could help too, but may forestall the inevitable if we keep growing.
- Retric 9y ago
  You can also farm fish, so it's more fisherman exploitation than simple demand for fish.
  - usrusr 9y ago
    Many fish farms are just converters from one kind of fish (that is caught in the wild but isn't popular in the supermarket) into another kind of fish (one of the popular carnivorous ones).
    - mirimir 9y ago
      Indeed. From https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X16305516 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X1... > Finally, comments are presented on the proposition that aquaculture will overtake wild capture fisheries in terms of food production, notably because current aquaculture requires huge quantities of wild-caught fish as feed. Indeed, this emphasis on aquaculture-as-substitute for fisheries raises issues of food security and malnutrition in developing countries, from which much of the fish used as feed originates.
    - bjelkeman-again 9y ago
      True, but there are fish, like tilapia that feed on plants instead and are easy to farm.
- zokier 9y ago
  > They're responding to people who buy fish, which is most people I wonder what percentage of the catch ends up for human consumption. I got a (possibly completely unfounded) feeling that it is not very big figure.
clort 9y ago
It would be interesting to be able to change the map depending on the country of origin of the vessels to see the distribution. The article says that Spain is one of the major presences here; but certainly I've seen Chinese fishing boats in the Atlantic
- pducks32 9y ago
  There is a bit of masking probably going on with a boat’s flag’s origin. Maritime law is a strange game and thy can get away with a lot of shady stuff if they pick some obscure countries as their “home”
Qworg 9y ago
Fishing is both gigantic and unprofitable (roughly $44B/year in the hole with subsidies, as of 2014)[1]. Illegal fishing is also a gigantic problem. In fact, illegal fishing is the 3rd largest crime in dollars after smuggling weapons and drugs (up to $36.4B/year)[2]. It also contributes to human trafficking. Plug: We're working to stop illegal fishing at Vulcan (with satellites!): http://www.skylight.global/ http://www.skylight.global/. If you're interested, we actually have an open position on the team - http://www.vulcan.com/About/Careers/Job-Listings?p=job/oCIB6fwL http://www.vulcan.com/About/Careers/Job-Listings?p=job/oCIB6... Hit me up if you'd like to discuss - email in profile. [1] https://qz.com/1195914/the-way-the-world-catches-fish-defies-all-economic-logic/ https://qz.com/1195914/the-way-the-world-catches-fish-defies... [2] https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/illegal-fishing https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/illegal-fishing
- jimrandomh 9y ago
  > Fishing is both gigantic and unprofitable (roughly $44B/year in the hole with subsidies, as of 2014)[1]. This is a misunderstanding of economics. To determine whether an industry would be profitable if subsidies were removed, you can't just subtract numbers on a balance sheet; you need to know the demand elasticity of their product.
  - Qworg 9y ago
    Demand is strong, certainly, but productivity has topped out (ie: we're overfishing/we can't find new fish). Do subsidies lower the price for the consumer or simply keep output high given the decreasing stocks (therefore decreasing the price)?
    - vuchhcjd 9y ago
      It's been a couple years since I last looked but a quick glance at the explosion of farmed fish proves how wildly wrong you are.
      - jessaustin 9y ago
irrational 9y ago
I'm astonished at how much fishing is going on around Europe. I expected that around China/Japan/SE Asia, but Europe? I've lived all over the US and in my experience hardly anyone eats seafood (we certainly never ate it growing up in California, Florida, Texas, Oregon and Puerto Rico and I've never met anyone who mentioned that they have recently eaten seafood). So I assumed Europe would be the same (since a lot of our culture comes from Europe). Maybe people are secretly eating more seafood in the USA than my experience would assume, or Europeans just eat way more seafood that I would have guessed.
- xpuente 9y ago
  Spain is mainly the responsible for that: ~30kg per capita/year (vs. <10kg in other European countries).
  - pedrosorio 9y ago
    Having lived in Portugal for 25 years this comment didn't ring true: https://imgur.com/a/R5PRt https://imgur.com/a/R5PRt If we ignore Portugal (and Iceland which consumes a lot more per capita but is not in the EU), Spain is indeed the top consumer per capita in the European Union, but nowhere near 3x most European countries. Only 50% more than France/Italy and about twice of UK/Belgium/Finland/Denmark/Netherlands. Unless by "other European countries" you meant to refer to Germany, the ratio is way off. http://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/108446/The+EU+fish+market+2017.pdf/80acad95-907f-4b90-b2a7-1086964df3d9 http://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/108446/The+EU+fish+mark...
- coldtea 9y ago
  >I've lived all over the US and in my experience hardly anyone eats seafood (we certainly never ate it growing up in California, Florida, Texas, Oregon and Puerto Rico and I've never met anyone who mentioned that they have recently eaten seafood) We eat seafood (from seas, to oysters, to lobsters and co) all the time in Europe. And I don't know about whether in the US where "hardly anyone eats seafood". Try New England states and you'll be surprised. While consumption of seafood per capita is lower in the US than the EU, it's not that much so -- 21.7 kg/person/year in the US, vs 24.9 kg/person/year in EU average (though Mediterranean and nordic countries are well beyond the average). That said, a lot of the US consumption of fish might be in the form of catfish and fish nuggets as opposed to actual sea fare. https://www.statista.com/statistics/264327/per-capita-consumption-of-fishery-products-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/264327/per-capita-consum...
ataturk 9y ago
8 billion people, 7.9 billion of which are hopelessly ignorant, living day by day and can't even comprehend the issues we discuss on here or even that those issues exist at all. Even most of my neighbors in first-world US are hopelessly ignorant about major issues and this isn't me being elitist--I at least understand the impact the human race has on the world even if I disagree about some of the minutiae or accept that I can't change them. It isn't going to be pretty when it all comes apart. Mass death following mass environmental degradation. I give climate change activists hell because I already know the solution to that problem is a) fewer people or b) new technology. And b) doesn't buy us tons more time. Over-fishing is an even more critical issue imho and the only solution to it is fewer mouths to feed. Humans are used to abundance but there is an upper limit.
pmoriarty 9y ago
Anyone interested in this should check out the Leviathan commercial fishing documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqyNKK3HYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqyNKK3HYU
pc2g4d 9y ago
From the article it seems the map represents places fishing vessels _were_, not necessarily where fishing occurred. So a vessel en route to fishing "grounds" (what's the right term?) would be counted as fishing all along the way.
zokier 9y ago
They sure are pretty maps, and the boats do seem to get around, no denying of that. But I'm not sure how I'm supposed to gain any insight of any exploitation, never mind of its vastness, from the maps. One might even somewhat naively think that having the fishing spread out is actually good thing. And I'm actually pretty aware that our fishing is not anywhere near sustainable levels, so no need to begin arguing about that. What I'm commenting is the relative vacuousness of the article.
- mirimir 9y ago
  FAO: http://www.fao.org/fishery/en http://www.fao.org/fishery/en Criticism of FAO's 2016 State of the World Fisheries and Aquaculture: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X16305516 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X1... Quote from there: > Also, concerns are raised as to why FAO chose to ignore the well-documented data 'reconstruction' process, which fills the gaps that exist in data reported by countries to FAO. It is being ignored despite its importance for governance and resource conservation being well known. This process and its findings could be used by FAO to encourage countries to improve their data reporting, including retroactive corrections. This is important in view of successive analyses of the status of fisheries resources undertaken by FAO (published in current and past SOFIAs) and also in modified form by the Sea Around Us. This suggests a degradation of marine fisheries, and, if trends continue, a crisis by mid-century.
all_usernames 9y ago
Be prepared to read a lot more of this topic in the coming years. With 2 of the main food species (Tuna, Salmon) de facto endangered, we're going to be thinking about our seafood much differently from now on.
- pvaldes 9y ago
  This is a real history. Last month three or four people were detained trying to taking a plane in Spanish with destination Malaysia with bags full of plastic water bottles. There was not drug in the bottles, they were just full of european baby eels. 24 Kg of elvers to be farmed for some months and sold in Asia as adult eels for a lot of money. Is a very lucrative smuggling. As elvers are tiny and lightweight a kg means a lot of fishes. In the meanwhile the population of european eels were reduced in maybe a 90% in the last generation... and nobody cares. No one single politician of relevance is talking about that.
hi41 9y ago
On Being podcast has a Sylvia Earle episode about over fishing has depleted the ocean ecosystem and is bringing many species close to extinction. Here is the episode: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000403412214 https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tip...
cageface 9y ago
Given the level of pollution in the ocean now you're probably better off avoiding fish anyway unless you want a daily dose of toxic heavy metals and industrial chemicals. There are no essential nutrients in fish you can't easily get from other foods.
- azinman2 9y ago
  Is that really true? My understanding is that depends heavily on what type of fish it is (where are they in the food chain and how old they are), and isn’t the ocean super gigantic? It’s also not like heavy metals don’t exist in our land-based foods [1] (along with lots of other nasties like antibiotics and pesticides). Further, if it was really so toxic, wouldn’t a population like Japan that has a very seafood heavy diet be suffering massive health issues? [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11347908/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11347908/
  - cageface 9y ago
    There are definitely tradeoffs, but you can get all the benefits of eating fish from safer sources: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/mercury-vs-omega-3s-for-brain-development/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/mercury-vs-omega-3s-for-bra... https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fish-and-diabetes/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fish-and-diabetes/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/ciguatera-poisoning-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/ciguatera-poisoning-chronic...
  - contingencies 9y ago
    wouldn’t a population like Japan that has a very seafood heavy diet be suffering massive health issues? Oh you mean like massive suicide, youth exodus, xenophobia, plummeting economic output, aging population, negative population growth due to social issues? You don't need a personal mental diagnosis to know which way the wind blows for a society, and for Japan it's out to sea.
ajmurmann 9y ago
I wish we could ban all fishing for at least five years and after that highly restrict it. One can dream right? (I say that as someone who likes eating fish a lot)
- deleted 9y ago
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206 points by acdanger 9y ago

Interactive version of this map showing fishing activity: http://globalfishingwatch.org/map/ http://globalfishingwatch.org/map/

singularity2001 9y ago

At least "exclusive economic zones" around islands are mostly respected

IshKebab 9y ago
Or they turn off their transponders or whatever.
- contingencies 9y ago
  Yes. Or don't have them. If you believe this map nobody fishes on either coast of Thailand or Peninsular Malaysia at all. Not true! Probably the map heavily skews to showing only points from large vessels in international waters and most vessels in well regulated / developed countries' waters.
  - jabl 9y ago
    The map is mostly based on AIS data; AIS transponders are only required on vessels larger than 100 tons, thus excluding smaller coastal fishing vessels. EDIT According to wikipedia, I'm wrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_syste... ). The international limit (IMO SOLAS) is apparently 300 gross tons, though local jurisdictions can have stricter requirements, e.g. it mentions that the EU requires all fishing vessels longer than 16m to be equipped. EDIT2 wikipedia is wrong, the EU limit for fishing vessels is 15m as of 2014-05-31 (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009R1224&from=EN http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELE...).
    - glup 9y ago
      I was just going to look for this information, thanks!
losteric 9y ago
I highly doubt islands are respected considering Chinese trawlers are found invading territory as far as Argentina

bahmboo 9y ago

Somewhat related https://www.kaggle.com/c/the-nature-conservancy-fisheries-monitoring https://www.kaggle.com/c/the-nature-conservancy-fisheries-mo...

spodek 9y ago

They're responding to people who buy fish, which is most people, so it's less "Global Fishing's" and more "Humanity's Exploitation of the Ocean". The maps look like a comment on our population growth, or a call to reduce that growth if we don't want nature to reduce it for us. Eating more plants instead of fish and other forms of efficiency could help too, but may forestall the inevitable if we keep growing.

Retric 9y ago
You can also farm fish, so it's more fisherman exploitation than simple demand for fish.
- usrusr 9y ago
  Many fish farms are just converters from one kind of fish (that is caught in the wild but isn't popular in the supermarket) into another kind of fish (one of the popular carnivorous ones).
  - mirimir 9y ago
    Indeed. From https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X16305516 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X1... > Finally, comments are presented on the proposition that aquaculture will overtake wild capture fisheries in terms of food production, notably because current aquaculture requires huge quantities of wild-caught fish as feed. Indeed, this emphasis on aquaculture-as-substitute for fisheries raises issues of food security and malnutrition in developing countries, from which much of the fish used as feed originates.
  - bjelkeman-again 9y ago
    True, but there are fish, like tilapia that feed on plants instead and are easy to farm.
zokier 9y ago
> They're responding to people who buy fish, which is most people I wonder what percentage of the catch ends up for human consumption. I got a (possibly completely unfounded) feeling that it is not very big figure.

clort 9y ago

It would be interesting to be able to change the map depending on the country of origin of the vessels to see the distribution. The article says that Spain is one of the major presences here; but certainly I've seen Chinese fishing boats in the Atlantic

pducks32 9y ago
There is a bit of masking probably going on with a boat’s flag’s origin. Maritime law is a strange game and thy can get away with a lot of shady stuff if they pick some obscure countries as their “home”

Qworg 9y ago

Fishing is both gigantic and unprofitable (roughly $44B/year in the hole with subsidies, as of 2014)[1]. Illegal fishing is also a gigantic problem. In fact, illegal fishing is the 3rd largest crime in dollars after smuggling weapons and drugs (up to $36.4B/year)[2]. It also contributes to human trafficking. Plug: We're working to stop illegal fishing at Vulcan (with satellites!): http://www.skylight.global/ http://www.skylight.global/. If you're interested, we actually have an open position on the team - http://www.vulcan.com/About/Careers/Job-Listings?p=job/oCIB6fwL http://www.vulcan.com/About/Careers/Job-Listings?p=job/oCIB6... Hit me up if you'd like to discuss - email in profile. [1] https://qz.com/1195914/the-way-the-world-catches-fish-defies-all-economic-logic/ https://qz.com/1195914/the-way-the-world-catches-fish-defies... [2] https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/illegal-fishing https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/illegal-fishing

jimrandomh 9y ago
> Fishing is both gigantic and unprofitable (roughly $44B/year in the hole with subsidies, as of 2014)[1]. This is a misunderstanding of economics. To determine whether an industry would be profitable if subsidies were removed, you can't just subtract numbers on a balance sheet; you need to know the demand elasticity of their product.
- Qworg 9y ago
  Demand is strong, certainly, but productivity has topped out (ie: we're overfishing/we can't find new fish). Do subsidies lower the price for the consumer or simply keep output high given the decreasing stocks (therefore decreasing the price)?
  - vuchhcjd 9y ago
    It's been a couple years since I last looked but a quick glance at the explosion of farmed fish proves how wildly wrong you are.
    - jessaustin 9y ago

irrational 9y ago

I'm astonished at how much fishing is going on around Europe. I expected that around China/Japan/SE Asia, but Europe? I've lived all over the US and in my experience hardly anyone eats seafood (we certainly never ate it growing up in California, Florida, Texas, Oregon and Puerto Rico and I've never met anyone who mentioned that they have recently eaten seafood). So I assumed Europe would be the same (since a lot of our culture comes from Europe). Maybe people are secretly eating more seafood in the USA than my experience would assume, or Europeans just eat way more seafood that I would have guessed.

xpuente 9y ago
Spain is mainly the responsible for that: ~30kg per capita/year (vs. <10kg in other European countries).
- pedrosorio 9y ago
  Having lived in Portugal for 25 years this comment didn't ring true: https://imgur.com/a/R5PRt https://imgur.com/a/R5PRt If we ignore Portugal (and Iceland which consumes a lot more per capita but is not in the EU), Spain is indeed the top consumer per capita in the European Union, but nowhere near 3x most European countries. Only 50% more than France/Italy and about twice of UK/Belgium/Finland/Denmark/Netherlands. Unless by "other European countries" you meant to refer to Germany, the ratio is way off. http://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/108446/The+EU+fish+market+2017.pdf/80acad95-907f-4b90-b2a7-1086964df3d9 http://www.eumofa.eu/documents/20178/108446/The+EU+fish+mark...
coldtea 9y ago
>I've lived all over the US and in my experience hardly anyone eats seafood (we certainly never ate it growing up in California, Florida, Texas, Oregon and Puerto Rico and I've never met anyone who mentioned that they have recently eaten seafood) We eat seafood (from seas, to oysters, to lobsters and co) all the time in Europe. And I don't know about whether in the US where "hardly anyone eats seafood". Try New England states and you'll be surprised. While consumption of seafood per capita is lower in the US than the EU, it's not that much so -- 21.7 kg/person/year in the US, vs 24.9 kg/person/year in EU average (though Mediterranean and nordic countries are well beyond the average). That said, a lot of the US consumption of fish might be in the form of catfish and fish nuggets as opposed to actual sea fare. https://www.statista.com/statistics/264327/per-capita-consumption-of-fishery-products-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/264327/per-capita-consum...

ataturk 9y ago

8 billion people, 7.9 billion of which are hopelessly ignorant, living day by day and can't even comprehend the issues we discuss on here or even that those issues exist at all. Even most of my neighbors in first-world US are hopelessly ignorant about major issues and this isn't me being elitist--I at least understand the impact the human race has on the world even if I disagree about some of the minutiae or accept that I can't change them. It isn't going to be pretty when it all comes apart. Mass death following mass environmental degradation. I give climate change activists hell because I already know the solution to that problem is a) fewer people or b) new technology. And b) doesn't buy us tons more time. Over-fishing is an even more critical issue imho and the only solution to it is fewer mouths to feed. Humans are used to abundance but there is an upper limit.

pmoriarty 9y ago

Anyone interested in this should check out the Leviathan commercial fishing documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqyNKK3HYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqyNKK3HYU

pc2g4d 9y ago

From the article it seems the map represents places fishing vessels _were_, not necessarily where fishing occurred. So a vessel en route to fishing "grounds" (what's the right term?) would be counted as fishing all along the way.

zokier 9y ago

They sure are pretty maps, and the boats do seem to get around, no denying of that. But I'm not sure how I'm supposed to gain any insight of any exploitation, never mind of its vastness, from the maps. One might even somewhat naively think that having the fishing spread out is actually good thing. And I'm actually pretty aware that our fishing is not anywhere near sustainable levels, so no need to begin arguing about that. What I'm commenting is the relative vacuousness of the article.

mirimir 9y ago
FAO: http://www.fao.org/fishery/en http://www.fao.org/fishery/en Criticism of FAO's 2016 State of the World Fisheries and Aquaculture: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X16305516 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X1... Quote from there: > Also, concerns are raised as to why FAO chose to ignore the well-documented data 'reconstruction' process, which fills the gaps that exist in data reported by countries to FAO. It is being ignored despite its importance for governance and resource conservation being well known. This process and its findings could be used by FAO to encourage countries to improve their data reporting, including retroactive corrections. This is important in view of successive analyses of the status of fisheries resources undertaken by FAO (published in current and past SOFIAs) and also in modified form by the Sea Around Us. This suggests a degradation of marine fisheries, and, if trends continue, a crisis by mid-century.

all_usernames 9y ago

Be prepared to read a lot more of this topic in the coming years. With 2 of the main food species (Tuna, Salmon) de facto endangered, we're going to be thinking about our seafood much differently from now on.

pvaldes 9y ago
This is a real history. Last month three or four people were detained trying to taking a plane in Spanish with destination Malaysia with bags full of plastic water bottles. There was not drug in the bottles, they were just full of european baby eels. 24 Kg of elvers to be farmed for some months and sold in Asia as adult eels for a lot of money. Is a very lucrative smuggling. As elvers are tiny and lightweight a kg means a lot of fishes. In the meanwhile the population of european eels were reduced in maybe a 90% in the last generation... and nobody cares. No one single politician of relevance is talking about that.

hi41 9y ago

On Being podcast has a Sylvia Earle episode about over fishing has depleted the ocean ecosystem and is bringing many species close to extinction. Here is the episode: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000403412214 https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tip...

cageface 9y ago

Given the level of pollution in the ocean now you're probably better off avoiding fish anyway unless you want a daily dose of toxic heavy metals and industrial chemicals. There are no essential nutrients in fish you can't easily get from other foods.

azinman2 9y ago
Is that really true? My understanding is that depends heavily on what type of fish it is (where are they in the food chain and how old they are), and isn’t the ocean super gigantic? It’s also not like heavy metals don’t exist in our land-based foods [1] (along with lots of other nasties like antibiotics and pesticides). Further, if it was really so toxic, wouldn’t a population like Japan that has a very seafood heavy diet be suffering massive health issues? [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11347908/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11347908/
- cageface 9y ago
  There are definitely tradeoffs, but you can get all the benefits of eating fish from safer sources: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/mercury-vs-omega-3s-for-brain-development/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/mercury-vs-omega-3s-for-bra... https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fish-and-diabetes/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fish-and-diabetes/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/ciguatera-poisoning-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/ciguatera-poisoning-chronic...
- contingencies 9y ago
  wouldn’t a population like Japan that has a very seafood heavy diet be suffering massive health issues? Oh you mean like massive suicide, youth exodus, xenophobia, plummeting economic output, aging population, negative population growth due to social issues? You don't need a personal mental diagnosis to know which way the wind blows for a society, and for Japan it's out to sea.

ajmurmann 9y ago

I wish we could ban all fishing for at least five years and after that highly restrict it. One can dream right? (I say that as someone who likes eating fish a lot)

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