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I referred to the 2015 PISA test when making those estimates. In 2015, four Chinese provinces took the test including Guangdong, which student's native language
by nopinsight 9y ago
I referred to the 2015 PISA test when making those estimates. In 2015, four Chinese provinces took the test including Guangdong, which student's native language is often not mandarin. Their total population is 230 million people.
Granted, they are likely above China's average in terms of skills but I read elsewhere that someone involved in PISA said regarding about unofficial PISA 2009 research in other Chinese provinces that even some very poor regions scored close to OECD average.
We will likely see China's whole country results in 2019 when PISA 2018 official results come out and I believe it will still be better in math than many OECD countries.
Your point regarding lower average quality of education in China could be true but that means in 10 years they could be improved with economic development and their skills would be even better than now. Developed countries in East Asia and Singapore where populations share the same cultural traits with China have for some time dominate PISA rankings in all subjects.
India has many talented people but because of many factors, as a percentage, the figure is probably many times lower than China. Check out their former PISA results before they pulled out. They will improve but it is a long way to go and we know from history that network effects and other factors tend to make tech dominance into natural monopoly, at least until a major paradigm shift happens.
No other country has both the size of native population and the distribution of population's skill levels taken together to compete on equal footing with China in the next 1-2 decades.
The US can hold its own and perhaps keep the lead by being a desirable place for global top talent but it remains to be seen if the government's policy and other factors will erode that advantage away.
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoAlso note that China doesn’t have mandatory schooling after grade 9, while western countries do. That is another source of bias when comparing high school students between the two countries. These numbers are BS for many of those reasons.
- nopinsight 9y agoThanks for the reminder about that selection bias! Then we’ll need to lower the number of total population used to calculate AI-capable natives somewhat. Given data on primary vs secondary school enrollment, the adjustment ratio is about 0.65. That would adjust the relevant population size down to about 0.9 billion. This has been an interesting exploration and shows how hard it is to predict the future given so many factors involved. I still believe the broad-stroke prediction that China will lead in AI-based technologies in 2030 will still come true though.