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Induction of self awareness in dreams through low current stimulation (2014)
- Walf 9y agoNeat. When do they release the home lucid dream inducer?
- aalleavitch 9y agoIt’s called DMT
- 3131s 9y agoCalea Zacatechichi too.
- unixhero 9y agoBlue tooth IOT enabled (Blink the lights while exploring the underside) Spotify integrated Tinder enhanced Facebook dreams comparability Google drive flow (work in your dreams!) Udemy stream (I know kung fu) Tesla wheel dream (dream while you drive? / dream about your next car..?)
- IgorPartola 9y agoOh yes this. Ideally we want it closed source but with a backdoor or ten so that you can control anyone’s dreams though the Internet.
- m12k 9y agoIf you're into video games, you should play Dreamfall Chapters.
- croon 9y agoThe Longest Journey was one of my favorite games. I've been holding off on Dreamfall, but I should probably get it when I can find the time.
- m12k 9y agoMine too. I felt Dreamfall was a bit 'light' compared to the depth and charm of The Longest Journey. But I feel that Dreamfall Chapters is finally a worthy successor (though still not at the same height of 'all-time classic' as the original is for me, but few things are).
- the_af 9y agoI liked The Longest Journey a lot back in the day. A bit too talkative for my taste, but I loved the world-building, the characters -- I especially loved April, of course -- and the unconventional "plot twist" at the end. I didn't like Dreamfall. I didn't like what they did to April, and found the new characters uninteresting. Never played Dreamfall Chapters.
- amirexdev 9y agoSo this is how inception starts.
- mkstowegnv 9y agoand your fidget spinner can function like the spinning tops in Inception to tell you whether or not you are in a dream (so there really is a purpose for those things!)
- random_upvoter 9y agoJust look at your hand. In a lucid dream, your hand doesn't quite look like a normal hand.
- majewsky 9y agoDoesn't always work though. "Let's see... Seven fingers - yep, I'm awake."
- rightmess 9y agoThe nose-plug check is more reliable and physiologically based: pinch your nose so that your nostrils are blocked, shut your mouth and breathe in. If you're dreaming you'll breathe in anyway since your nostrils aren't actually blocked.
- logfromblammo 9y agoDon't even look; just poke a finger through your palm. When dreaming, the rendering engine is still turned on, but clipping is off, and the physics engine is switched to a simplified model. You can also breathe without an open airway, so the Valsalva maneuver does not work. As I need to do this several times during the day to relive underpressure due to my crap eustachian tubes, this is an immediate tell for me. Then I poke my finger through my palm, and usually get so excited about figuring out that I'm dreaming that I wake myself up. I've heard that you can spin around as though you were trying to make yourself dizzy to avoid waking, but it never seems to work for me.
- unixhero 9y agoIntel Management MEDC Dream Control
- bparsons 9y agoYou forgot to mention the ads. Subconscious impressions have to be worth a lot.
- abrichr 9y agoJust as Futurama predicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSDb-oI808 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSDb-oI808
- manyoso 9y agoIntegrates with fitbit to track your exercise in your dreams... "Alexa, what is the weather like in my dreamscape?"...
- qaq 9y agoWork in your dream could be nice
- hugozap 9y agoHackers exploit the platform leaving 1000's trapped in their dreams, demand btc.
- jacquesm 9y ago> Google drive flow (work in your dreams!) Pomodoro sleeping for a double win.
- Klasiaster 9y agoThen maybe this will face the same legal regulation as drugs ;) I think that devices can help a bit more but are not really needed if you read the publications of researchers like Stephen Laberge. Because there are also other tricks which increase the chance, and still all seem to require practiced awareness and during daytime.
- amelius 9y ago1. Buy an EEG headset. 2. Train a neural network to determine when you're asleep. 3. Apply current when asleep.
- arde 9y agoWhat I'd like to know is if lucid dreaming attains the same quality of rest as normal dreaming. I doubt long-term effects of lucid dreaming have been studied.
- sjclemmy 9y agoBrilliant - the scale to measure higher order consciousness in sleep is called the ‘LuCiD’ scale. Nice.
- skjerns 9y agoThat's so 2014 Please also regard the methodological problems that are posed by the study http://neurocritic.blogspot.nl/2014/05/does-gamma-tacs-really-induce-lucid.html http://neurocritic.blogspot.nl/2014/05/does-gamma-tacs-reall... and that they only used 3 subjects. Furthermore they are not willing to share their data with other scientists. However, support comes from another group: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053810013001098?via%3Dihub http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053810013...
- ElKrist 9y agoI read 27 subjects participating to the study in the paper. Where did you see only three?
- nonbel 9y agoThe first link is pretty much my impression. This looks like the usual trick of people playing games with definitions (lucid dreams is such and such score on our "LuCiD" scale). The main part of the trick is to measure something that sounds similar to what people actually care about, then draw conclusions about that thing cared about. By definition a person knows when they are having a lucid dream or not. If you will not trust their self report of that info there is no reason to trust anything else they report about the dream either. This scale is pointless for the purpose of identifying lucid dreaming. Where is the result: "% of trials that the person reports lucid dreaming"? Perhaps that is in supplementary figure 1 where they show "Nb. of dreams rated as lucid"? But what does it mean to "rate as lucid"? For this paper I see this is based on the scale: "Lucidity was assumed when subjects reported elevated ratings (>mean + 2 s.e.) on either or both of the LuCiD scale factors insight and dissociation." Going back to their earlier paper about creating the LuCiD scale all I find is this: "Dreams were treated as lucid dreams if they were rated as such by the participants." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23220345 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23220345
- derefr 9y ago> By definition a person knows when they are having a lucid dream or not. Do they? I mean, the qualia of "I'm having a lucid dream" might not have 100% overlap with the fact of having a lucid dream. Certain drugs can give people something they will describe as "a feeling of being very sure about things" without that feeling having any particular referent—whatever they think about, they tend to describe experiencing an "epiphany" about. (The subset of people who think tend to frame things through a lens of religious faith tend to describe this drug experience as a "religious experience", a "contact with the divine." Mostly, it seems, because they direct their attention to their religious beliefs, and end up having a feeling of sureness about those, while other trippy things are happening.) I wouldn't find it hard to believe that there is a thing you can do to the brain that makes it believe you are in conscious control of affecting the world you are sensorily experiencing. By itself, this would just make you experience dreaming as normal, but with a sensation that whatever you're doing in the dream—and however the dream is proceeding—it was your choice for you to do those things, and for the dream to proceed in that fashion. Without actual control of the dream, this would likely cause ego-dystonic thoughts: questioning why you directed the dream to go the way it did, because it seems so out-of-line with your normal waking desires.
- debacle 9y agoFor people who don't dream lucidly, what are your dreams like? Do you experience them in third person? Is it like being on rails? My wife often tells me that, in her dreams, she's still herself but also not herself. Is it like a compulsion, where you know what's happening but you're not in control of yourself?
- warent 9y agoMost of my dreams aren't lucid, but I've had a few lucid dreams, so I can compare. Typically in my dreams it feels like normal life, except that for some reason I'm gullible to dream logic. If something strange happens and I try to make sense of it, a bad explanation--one that I wouldn't accept in real life--will perfectly satisfy my dreaming brain. However, occasionally dream logic totally breaks down and I realize it's a dream. In that instant I gain full control. But it doesn't take long before the control slips away, forgetting the revelation that happened moments ago. What about you? Are all of your dreams always lucid?
- teekert 9y agoFor me it's more like it's all just a memory I suddenly have when I wake up, there does not really seems to be a "now" in the dreams. Sometimes there is some sort of realization of being in a dream but it's always at the moment I'm waking up. I'm pretty jealous of people with lucid dreams, it must be fantastic.
- hssys 9y agoThis describes exactly how it is for me, and I've never been able to put it in to words until now.
- warent 9y ago> It's all just a memory I suddenly have when I wake up Same here, very well worded. That's the case for me in maybe 3/4 dreams. The more emotionally intense ones have that "now" feeling though. Search online for some practices to help induce lucid dreams. There are things that could help. For example, creating a habit throughout the day to check if you're dreaming. e.g. look in the mirror and ask if it's a dream, or look at a clock and ask if its a dream. If you create this habit in normal life, the idea is that it will carry over to your dreams. Just realizing a dream is a dream should propel you into lucidity. Dreams rarely seem to get reflections and clocks right.
- matte_black 9y agoI wonder if this can help people who suffer from depersonalization and derealization disorder, an endless hell from which there is no escape.
- phkahler 9y agoDo you have experience with that?
- matte_black 9y agoNo, but have met some people that have and I’ve also read the tortured writings of victims all throughout the internet. Someone has to do something!
- 38932ur98u 9y agoInteresting. How would this be related?
- matte_black 9y agoI’m not sure it would help, but maybe stimulating self-awareness can help victims come “back to reality”.
- eponeponepon 9y agoI feel like I also might wake up a bit if somebody gave me an electric shock while I was asleep... :-)
- usaphp 9y agoI feel like control over dreaming is a much better direction of AR development. In dreams you can pretty much come up with any type of action and all the sensations are exactly like they are in real life, pleasure, pain etc...
- clavalle 9y agoMaybe my experience is different than others, but when I dream lucidly it is fun but my dreams lose a lot of spontaneity and richness because I realize I am in control of everything in the dream. I suspect this is because the conscious mind is slow and single threaded compared to the unconscious mind which is faster and multithreaded. In a dream where the mind is in control of both the experiencing 'self' and all aspects of the environment, this difference causes a real loss in fidelity. Thus, I don't understand the obsession with lucid dreaming and I really don't understand why people would want to do it every time they dream.
- prophesi 9y agoOne bonus is that it's much much easier to remember what happened when lucid dreaming. There's no point to the high-fidelity if you can't retain any of it; My favorite dreams are ones that I'm constantly remembering and forgetting that I'm dreaming, as it gives the best of both worlds, but this probably happens for me once in a blue moon.
- psyc 9y agoI have never had control of anything other than myself during a lucid dream. My dreams become lucid extremely rarely, and that is why I want to experience it.
- matiasz 9y agoI recommend Stephen LaBerge’s work.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 9y agoI have opposite control. When I try to make a layup it won't go in, when I try to punch my arm feels heavy and slow. It's strange but predictable.
- Pharylon 9y agoI always wake up the moment I realize I'm dreaming, so I've never experienced the "totally in control" thing. Seems like it'd be fun. :)
- mkoryak 9y agoRecently I found a way to induce lucid dreams nearly 50% of the time I try. I start by closing my eyes and looking at the blackness. Usually there is something else there, like a field of dots. I will the field of dots to uniformly move or become a tunnel. After a while more objects form, I try to control them in some way, or just observe them. Eventually this turns into a lucid dream or a deep meditative state where I am aware of my body but time passes faster. It does not work when I cant get any images to form because I am not tired or distracted. It also requires a fair amount of attention to redirect yourself to 'keep looking'. Its easy to drift off and do normal sleep.
- mzitelli 9y agoThat is interesting, I also experience some strange state of consciousness before getting to sleep, however, every time I lose awareness after a while. Maybe that just works for people that have a REM cycle at the beginning of the night. But I will try harder knowing now that such practice leads somewhere.
- mkoryak 9y agoTry doing it when not going to sleep, like maybe when you have free time and might take a nap. When I do it before bed, I often fall asleep before getting anywhere interesting. Napping works better for me because there is no pressure to get sleep. Maybe as I become better at this I'll have more success doing it before bed
- yathern 9y agoWow! I thought I was the only one who did this. Never to accomplish lucid dreaming - but I noticed in classes in highschool (why was I closing my eyes in class?). When closing my eyes for a little bit, I'll see patches of glowing, slowly churning colors. Usually a paradoxically dark neon. Sometimes it's the afterimage effect from looking at a light - but I think some of it is just your eyes trying to make sense of the darkness. When focusing on these for a while, and trying to force my mind to make sense of it, eventually these blobs turn into oddly abstract shapes with intricate patterns on them, that are very visible. I've never gone that far with it - very interesting.
- andai 9y agoTo reliably lucid dream, become more lucid (mindful, through careful observation of sense perceptions) in waking life. Also, get a watch or app with hourly beep and do a reality check. Mine is 3 things: (1) close eyes (2) pinch nose and try to breathe through it (3) check out my hands. All 3 of these are weird in dreams & reliably indicate that I am dreaming.