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So, as Windows will be available on ARM, we will have more laptops with ARM, more than just Chromebooks. This seems like a win for users.
by dest 9y ago
So, as Windows will be available on ARM, we will have more laptops with ARM, more than just Chromebooks.
This seems like a win for users.
- greenhouse_gas 9y agoBut with a locked bootloader, so not necessarily
- neilalexander 9y agoThis might be a non-issue. The only people who are likely to care about installing alternative operating systems are power users, and power users may still prefer to buy more powerful Intel systems.
- yndoendo 9y agoAs a power user, I'm still looking for a good ARM battery efficient 2-in-1 to use as a light laptop and tablet that runs Linux. Not to use as a production machine but for content consumption. Being able to continually read a book or article while coding or performing a task on production machine would be better then having to swap between the two on one computer. Wouldn't choose Intel for that.
- scott_karana 9y agoI can't see why a 5W TDP Intel SOC wouldn't also be sufficient for that purpose. The Snapdragon 835 is 4.5W. Why the specific ISA desire?
- cwyers 9y agoHaving more shipping ARM devices gets you closer to that, even if these devices have a locked bootloader. The more robust the ecosystem around ARM with UEFI gets, the more the parts become commodity and if there's enough demand, someone will start shipping them with Linux or unlocked bootloaders. (Hate UEFI all you want, but standardizing on something is much better than the Android world where every SoC requires a custom bootloader and if the manufacturer doesn't support the kernel you want to run, tough. Having a standardized platform to run on means you can have a Linux distribution that supports running on any device that supports the standard.)
- keenerd 9y agoI found one a few years ago: http://kmkeen.com/c100p-tweaks/ http://kmkeen.com/c100p-tweaks/ But I do use it as a production machine.
- greenhouse_gas 9y ago>The only people who are likely to care about installing alternative operating systems are power users, and power users may still prefer to buy more powerful Intel systems. Traditionally, one of the ways people got into Linux was inheriting an old box and sticking Linux on it. You won't be able to do this anymore. And as Intel will become more and more niche, it will get more expensive.
- gambiting 9y agoBut it already was, not long ago(Windows RT) and those laptops didn't sell at all. I don't understand why Microsoft is even trying again.
- chipperyman573 9y agoWindows RT could only run metro apps. This can run x86 apps on ARM
- undersuit 9y agoWindows RT was only allowed to run Metro apps. We'll see how much of x86 we're allowed to run when we get our hands on it.
- jamesgeck0 9y ago"Allowed" is a funny way of phrasing this. The technology Microsoft has built to run x86 Windows apps on ARM didn't exist when Windows RT was released.
- khedoros1 9y agoI think that "allowed" is correct. A developer couldn't just recompile their desktop-style app into an ARM binary for RT, for example. They'd refuse to run, and not because of the CPU architecture. The only way to get third-party apps was through the Windows store, which only supports Metro apps. Metro apps had a limited API available to them.