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If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on or after December 2
- DrinkWater 9y agoOh Apple :(
- bluetwo 9y agoJeebus. I love Apple but Tim has got to tighten that ship.
- nixpulvis 9y agoCan the Vasa be "tightened"?
- princekolt 9y agoThey could try shutting the cannon doors...
- leggomylibro 9y agoNew iOS11 bug: Firing cannons introduces stability issues.
- nasredin 9y agoYou are holding them wrong.
- trumpeta 9y agoCraig Federighi for CEO!
- pavlov 9y agoThe man who presided over the unfolding High Sierra disaster?
- t0mbstone 9y agoDamn it... I literally just wiped my iPhone completely because of this problem and am now restoring it from scratch. I wish I had read hacker news first!
- jpswain 9y agoMe too. What an absurd bug.
- runeb 9y agoDid it twice! Lost data too. Apples software quality has taken a very noticeable dive the last year or two. Being an iOS developer used to be very comfortable. It’s now become a real pain in many ways. Xcode being the worst.
- aplummer 9y agoXcode 9 is definitely an area where I feel like it’s going in the right direction.
- runeb 9y agoXcode 9 promised a lot, but for me it has been a big disappointment. SourceKitService still ends up in an endless loop allocating memory and needs to be kill -9'd every 10 minutes. Switching git branches with a storyboard open often trips up Xcode and just now crashed my Mac completely. Apple software quality is not what it used to be.
- ratsimihah 9y agoHow has it become a pain? Been doing. Stove iOS for a while and now I'm learning React Native, it's fun.
- sockgrant 9y agoSame. I’ve done 10 or so apps in objc/swift and now 4 in RN and even though I know native like the back of my hand I much prefer RN. Jsx and the rendering model of react is 10x better than constraints in code or storyboards. Getting android nearly for free is just a cherry on top.
- spayu61 9y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15830149 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15830149
- ursus_bonum 9y agoI think I'll just hold my breath until the next Apple embarrassment.
- jim_and_derrick 9y agothere is a reason the company is named crapple. Cause you noobs keep buyin this crap-ola.
- loso 9y agoI was just fixing this problem for my dad about an hour ago. He called me asking what was wrong. A resetting of settings was able to fix it as well without messing with any data or apps.
- Karupan 9y agoNot one word of apology from Apple! The workaround involves turning off notifications individually for every app, and then turning them on after the update. If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake. But we somehow let Apple get away with it.
- sneak 9y ago“somehow”, as if Apple hasn’t been saving us a million tiny headaches a day (vs linux or windows or android) via software engineering for twenty+ years.
- ClassyJacket 9y agoWould we? We didn't burn LG at the stake for bootloops. We don't burn Microsoft at the stake for updating Windows 1p in the middle of work. Plenty of Android phones have had problems. If anything I feel like Apple gets more flak for every little thing, it just so happens this week they've had two genuinely really bad ones.
- JHonaker 9y agoLet's not forget that other than people being a bit mad, all those bulging battery packs from Samsung seems to be largely, and quickly, forgotten. I even saw a review of the new one that had a "Doesn't explode" in the Pros column.
- lern_too_spel 9y agoNobody made excuses for Samsung, which finally couldn't market its way out of being regarded as one of the poorest quality Android phone manufacturers that sells in the US. I'll put the reaction to Apple's screwups on the same level as the reaction to LG's when I see a class action lawsuit.
- bsimpson 9y agoThe Verge just named the Samsung S8 the second best phone you can buy right now, after the iPhone X: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/24/15914934/best-smartphone-apple-ios-google-android https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/24/15914934/best-smartphone-...
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- AaronMT 9y agoWhat is happening at Apple? I’m honestly worried for them. Is their QA department in disarray?
- iagooar 9y agoCould it be that the amount of bugs have exploded with the ever-growing complexity of their software combined with an unsustainable pace to guarantee solid, reliable software? It seems like a house of cards right now, and it will only get worse as they keep having the next crunch time just to deliver on an arbitrary management deadline...
- DelightOne 9y agoYou could go slower like everyone else.. with less features..
- qrbLPHiKpiux 9y agoI believe in general those using devices would always trade security for convenience and new, flashy features.
- derefr 9y agoSeems improbable to happen right now; there isn't really a large amount of newly-added complexity. Compare to QA in the beginning of the iCloud Document Sync (Ubiquity) era, where every app and many parts of both iOS and macOS had new features: Ubiquity itself broke down frequently, but the QA and maintenance engineering going into it didn't seem to make anything else in those releases less solid.
- jaxondu 9y agoMost of the iOS ui SpringBoard bugs are due to them rewriting the codes in Swift. Many Autolayout bug. Music app can’t even align the play button at center. Also Craig Federighi is busy with Siri, and busy shooting down Note 8 in social media. I was annoyed when the text replacement bug took one beta to solve, where the Calculator bug took 5 or 6 releases to solve. And the third reason is they expect users will actively test iOS for them. With so many bugs surfaced in media and in released version, my guess is no one is telling them the bugs during beta. Another reason is iPhone X is iPhone fragmentation with different home screen UI. You’re are right this will introduce complexity to the code base. I’m thankful for the touchbar in MacBook Pro and the notch design in X, both I dislike. This make me realise the many good points in other platform. Sort of like bursting my Apple fanboy bubble.
- raingrove 9y agoA similar bug (not as serious) is happening on macOS: https://robservatory.com/month-13-is-out-of-bounds/ https://robservatory.com/month-13-is-out-of-bounds/
- lostgame 9y agoYou know what would help shit like this? Letting us downgrade iOS. I get it. It means potential security exploits. But at least let us make the choice wether we’d prefer those to shiny new, and different issues that seem to be growing in number. Please? No? Fine, I’ll wait for the jailbreak and collect the goddamn SHSH blobs or whatever, if that’s how far you’ll make me go. My, how lucky you are that GarageBand iOS has no peers (namely its integration with Logic), or I’d downgrade to a dumb phone and start carrying a palm pilot again.
- enraged_camel 9y agoAre there any operating systems that offer an seamless, out-of-the-box downgrade option? When I first upgraded from windows 7 to 10 I remember wanting to go back and finding out that it was an incredibly convoluted process. Although I guess with iOS you just can’t downgrade, period.
- LoSboccacc 9y agoI can reinstall windows 7, xp, heck 3.11 just fine thank you
- ac29 9y agoSome Android manufacturers provide "factory images" allowing you to completely wipe your phone and reinstall any version supported on the hardware. Google is probably the best, maintaining an archive of every version released for the phones they sell.
- jzwinck 9y agoWhen I upgraded a laptop from Windows 7 to 10, and then it wouldn't resume from sleep anymore, I told Windows 10 to revert and it took a long time but worked perfectly.
- andrey_utkin 9y agoGNU/Linux
- tigershark 9y ago
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- 11235813213455 9y agothen get an android phone and linux desktop
- creep 9y agoWelp, time to sell! What a house of cards.
- codeisawesome 9y agoHow about short? ;-)
- tigershark 9y agoSeriously? I'm really really pleased that I waited before updating to iOS 11. Apple, what are you doing?
- JustSomeNobody 9y agoA lot of people so ios 11 is no more buggy than previous versions, but i honestly disagree. iOS 11 has just been a mess. They say, wait till the .2 or .3 release and it'll get better. Sooo... that's 3 to 6 months of using a bug riddle OS just for it to get good. We're just supposed to put up with that? I guess we are supposed to.
- IgorPartola 9y agoFuuuck. So sorry time. A few years ago I had an iPhone. I liked the iPhone. One day in the middle of the night the iPhone started flashing its screen at me. I woke up and tried restarting it. It didn’t work. The iPhone was in a loop of some kind and restarting it sent it back into the same state. Being as it was my only alarm clock, I tried to do what I could to fix the iPhone. Restoring it to factory settings via iTunes helped, by restoring from backup brought the issue back until it suddenly stopped a few hours later. This happened with some regularity every few months. Then my ex’s iPhone started doing that too. Then her iPad. Than our upgraded phones. Apple support had never seen it. And nobody else had either. Eventually I filed a bug with Apple and also reported it on StackOverflow. The issue was that one of my calendars was an Exchange calendar and it has some weirdness about representing events that repeat forever. iOS did not handle that situation well and it sent the kernel into some sort of panic state. After I actually talked to a support developer at Apple, they released an update that ended about a year of misery for me. Oh and some of you may remember the time that non-recurring alarms just stopped working one day on all iOS devices. I still have an iPhone for reasons. But damn, I’d like to have one version of iOS that doesn’t have quite so many bugs.
- Odenwaelder 9y agoThey finally fixed the damn calculator.
- harshitaisanerd 9y agoHappened with me yesterday and deleted all of my Chrome tabs:(
- mouzogu 9y agoI don't get all this anger towards "Apple". Ultimately, this and other recent bugs are human errors and we all make mistakes in our work - most likely due to a lack of time to do their job properly. I think that is the real issue.
- pjmlp 9y agoBecause when you pay 700 euros for a phone there is a certain level of quality expectations.
- bartread 9y agoI agree. When you pay the premium for a high end X, whatever X happens to be, you expect it to be right. Probably the main reason I get so stroppy with these kinds of issues is that I'm time poor and the time I do have I don't want to spend faffing around dealing with them. Perhaps I have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement (genuinely: there is no irony or sarcasm intended here), but one reason I pay for a premium object, device or experience is to avoid hassle and friction, so it's pretty frustrating when that's exactly what I get.
- mikestew 9y agobut one reason I pay for a premium object, device or experience is to avoid hassle and friction, so it's pretty frustrating when that's exactly what I get. It’s the whole fucking reason I started paying extra for Apple products to begin with. If I were willing to put up with this kind of sloppiness, I have a variety of options for less money.
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- larkeith 9y agoIf it were a one-off issue, this would be excusable. However, this is not the first, nor yet the tenth, major issue to occur on Apple devices in recent months, something that is inexcusable for a company who's reputation is founded on high-quality UX and reliability.
- partycoder 9y agoApple has officially jumped the shark.
- danaliv 9y agoNot to get all "when I was your age we walked uphill both ways and we liked it," but I really do think the frenetic pace of software updates across the whole industry these days is insane. In web software I see companies releasing multiple times per day at the extreme, once a day being more typical, but still nuts. Things like iOS upgrades are obviously less frequent than that but still seem so hurried. Why all the rush? It's like the whole industry is on a massive coke bender. Seriously, let people use your software. The constant updating just creates a shifting sand under people's feet. I don't need every product I use to change every week or month, and in fact I find it quite irritating. Just let me use the product!
- JustSomeNobody 9y agoSadly, the momentum has already built up and people are addicted to the rapid changes. I don't see this practice stopping any time soon.
- vijaysr 9y agoCalculator bug is reproduced on iOS 11.2 See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15838308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15838308
- rekshaw 9y agoInterestingly, I copied and pasted the blurb in the newly released Amazon Comprehend and it detected a negative sentiment with 0.94 confidence (0.0 positive, 0.06 neutral)
- knodi 9y agothe problem is even with how crappy iOS11 is Android phones suck more. I wish there was an better alternative. Apple still won't let us change the default browser from Safari to Chrome/Firefox for links clicked in Mail or iMessage. Its very annoying.
- deftturtle 9y agoEvery week I have another reason to be thankful that I didn't upgrade to iOS 11. But those bastards keep downloading the update to my phone and then telling my that I'm running low on free space. Cannot stand the way Apple treats users.