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I'm interested to see how this plays out - in some respects it's hard to come back at Project Veritas, they'll just say - hey nice work Washington Post you did
by nwhatt 9y ago
I'm interested to see how this plays out - in some respects it's hard to come back at Project Veritas, they'll just say - hey nice work Washington Post you did your job.
- creaghpatr 9y agoSurely it's not the first time the Post (or any MSM outlet) has been pitched a bogus tip. Surprised it doesn't happen more often.
- Lazare 9y agoIt happens constantly, but it's not normally news.
- creaghpatr 9y agoExactly, my company doesn't issue a press release every time an employee avoids a phishing attempt. (Internal pats on the back are appropriate though)
- comatose 9y agoDan Rather, one of the last anchors doing his own reporting, got fired after reporting a bogus GWB story. A staffer was somewhat responsible for airing it, but that was the price of letting the staffer vet the story. I could probably think of some others that did make the news, but overall you're right. Typically The misinformation is front page and the retraction is weeks later, if at al, and as far from prominent as they can make it.
- MBCook 9y agoI imagine it doesn’t usually rise to the level of ‘news’. It’s privably someone trying to make a competitor look bad or jump on a bandwagon. This time it was an attempt to undermine journalism in a tricky situation.
- nerfhammer 9y agoAFAIK it does happen a lot. Normally it just wouldn't be publicized. This time they figured out it was not only false but an organized disinformation campaign and invested the time in documenting that instead.
- minimaxir 9y agoJames O’Keefe tweeted a response: > Hitting export on hidden camera footage into Washington Post shortly. Project Veritas vs Bezos 100mm monopoly. Fasten your seatbelts. https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/935266973176487936 https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/935266973176487936 EDIT: He posted the video, which is not a denial of the accusations in the WaPo article.
- lallysingh 9y ago100mm? The man doesn't understand units very well.
- ianmcgowan 9y agoMM is commonly used in banking/finance for Million, and M is sometimes used for thousands (but sometimes millions, depending on the person). It's a mess in other words. https://english.stackexchange.com/a/182072 https://english.stackexchange.com/a/182072
- lallysingh 9y agoYeah, but Bezos is worth 100 billion.
- tomc1985 9y agoBritish English, MM means million.
- beedogs 9y agoThen he should've used capital letters. mm means millimeters. Edit: you guys really will downvote anything, won't you?
- tomc1985 9y agoIn my experience it is pretty common to see it used both ways. I'm not from the UK though, and why they would eschew the simple-and-obvious m and b suffixes in favor of alternatives, especially when Europeans love to lecture us about how metric is so neat and intuitive. Probably has something to do with the root words -- mil means 'thousand' in a lot of latin languages, and a thousand is M in roman numerals, and I heard somewhere that "MM" stands for "mil mil" or "million million" which, in the context of M equaling 1,000, woudl make sense.
- uhhhhhhh 9y ago> in some respects it's hard to come back at Project Veritas outright lying and fabricating stories to try and discredit news organizations seems like it can come back on your no matter what happens. In this case, Veritas has egg on its face, one of its employees is now outed, and everyone that they "may" have been able to expose that wasn't already on high alert for these frauds is. They've managed to not only prove WP follows proper journalist practices, but they've also given warning to those that don't to be extra careful of them. WP on the other hand, appears to have done what it usually does, vets information and publishes what it finds. They come out a huge winner over doing nothing, which is exactly the opposite of what Veritas was trying to accomplish.
- klodolph 9y agoAn employee was outed but it sounds like these employees were disposable to begin with.
- jrumbut 9y agoThis story makes me wonder what the other 11 new employees they were looking for are up to right now.
- pohl 9y agoIn this case, Veritas has egg on its face Maybe they can escape this by rebranding themselves Project Mendacium.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> outright lying and fabricating stories to try and discredit news organizations seems like it can come back on your no matter what happens. Not when your clear history of willingness to do that is what drives donations. It's literally the entire reason Project Veritas exists and gets funded.
- oh_sigh 9y ago> outright lying and fabricating stories to try and discredit news organizations seems like it can come back on your no matter what happens. Why? News organizations should never accept fabricated stories. If they do, then something is wrong with their vetting process, and it means that non "pen-testing" fake stories can get through as well, where the intent is to have some effect in the world(say, getting a person out of an election) as opposed to just making the newspaper blush.
- nerfhammer 9y agoThey were caught committing breaking and entering and (bungled) amateur wiretapping in the past and it didn't seem to hurt them
- s73ver_ 9y agoIt's only hard to come back at them if you're determined to stick to the idea that they're good. Anywhere else, doing things like this is considered shady as fuck.