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Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker
- hayksaakian 9y agoA little clunky on mobile, but the output is super cool. My major annoyance is "trapping" the back button so I can't go back.
- themodelplumber 9y agoThe mobile version needs help. I'm not sure I'd recommend this to my clients who have zero budget vs some of the other googlable logo makers (I'm a graphic designer who does periodic logo work and I offer to fix these auto-logos to make them more appropriate).
- rkeene2 9y agoI tried it out and the UI is poor. Things like clicking buttons don't result in any user-visible action, like a page loading, or even something bad (but not as terrible as nothing) like the button changing contents -- a couple of seconds later the next step happens. This means clicking is click, hope for the best, wait 300ms, get bored, click again, give up. Same for the search, type in a term, the list of icons disappears, and is repopulated when matches are found -- unless no matches are found then nothing happens, you have to wait until you are pretty certain that the blank icon area means no matches and not searching.
- rkeene2 9y agoIf you click the "Pricing" link all the icons you selected and which items you liked or not go away, and you have to start almost all the way over.
- jxcl 9y agoI figured that would be the case so I tried to middle click the pricing page and found that that wouldn't work either
- JasonFruit 9y agoThis is especially true on my slow rural satellite connection. 300ms turns into five or more seconds. I did give up, completely.
- esquivalience 9y agoFantastic concept! But I'm completely turned off by the IP terms ([1] below). This suggests LogoFox is pushing icons without doing IP checks, and selling them as finished logo designs without any assurance that the user won't get sued because of this. Don't take this as negative feedback, but as a tip to re-think the legal side approach. Better would be that you (a) you do some copyright checks and your terms state what checks have been done; and (b) once someone pays for the logo, they own the IP rights in the logo. [1] "Third Party Design Resources – You may use purchased End Products outside of the Site, whether for commercial or personal purposes. Prior to creating and using any End Product, LogoFox highly recommends you to perform due diligence to determine that the use of the Design Resources is free of any adverse claims and is not subject to any third party rights. LogoFox may also use symbols provided by The Noun Project, a third party content provider that obtains the symbols from other third party contributors. All use of these Symbols is AT YOUR OWN RISK. "
- andrewchambers 9y agoAgreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?
- rsoto 9y ago> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before you select the one you like. And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.
- detaro 9y agoOk, why pay for a deliverable I might not be legally allowed to use, or might be associated with unknown follow-on costs to aquire that right? They are obtaining third-party resources somewhere, they would be in an excellent position to provide relevant documentation. Unless I'm missing it in the terms, the user isn't even clearly allowed to use their designs as the basis of a known-safe design, since they don't explicitly permit changes to it?
- LeonM 9y agoDoesn't seem to work, if I choose text+logo, I only get a square with the first letter of the name I chose. Also, the icon browser needs some kind of loading indicator, now I don't know if there are no results or if the search is taking long.
- sourcesmith 9y agoThere is an error loading logo message which shows briefly then disappears...
- nvr219 9y agoThis is awesome
- marpstar 9y agoI used LogoJoy [1] a year or so ago to create a logo for my side business. This appears to have a lot of the same "designs" available as LogoJoy, but with a much less intuitive UX. [1]: https://logojoy.com/ https://logojoy.com/
- slig 9y agoThe icons are from The Noun Project, which has thousands of icons and a API.
- blaisio 9y agoI agree, this seems like a poorly done clone of logojoy. It's still good to have competition though.
- tibie 9y agoIt looks like http://brandmark.io/ http://brandmark.io/ as well
- Kequc 9y agoThis feels like the logos are better than there and logojoy took me through far too many steps. Leaving the forced registration to right before you even get to see the logos they generated. OP is a lot better.
- SyneRyder 9y agoLooks like you can browse through some logos by using arrow keys to scroll the logos below the forced registration. But I agree, the forced registration is a really lousy thing to do. I preferred the design process at LogoJoy though, especially the choice of colors and explaining what the colors often mean.
- naasking 9y ago> Looks like you can browse through some logos by using arrow keys to scroll the logos below the forced registration. I've used it before for some ideas. I just remove the overlay using Chrome's developer tools so I can see the logos clearly.
- hitgeek 9y agothe pricing seems high for this service. $30 for a computer generated logo. $990 for a professionally designed logo. I'm pretty sure you can get a computer generated logo for free from a variety of services, and professional logos for much less than $990. The UX on the site isn't great, so I wouldn't really pay for a premium service.
- djsumdog 9y agoIf I need a terrible logo, I use http://www.horriblelogos.com/ http://www.horriblelogos.com/ They're horrible and only $5
- labpdx 9y agoIt appears that there's a Black Friday deal right now to get the $900 VIP Package (professionally designed, etc) for $5.80. Or it's an error.
- labpdx 9y agoSeems like it was a bug or glitch, price is now back to $990 and no Black Friday mention.
- giarc 9y ago>professional logos for much less than $990. What's your point? You can also get professional logos for $100,000. Logofox has valued their professional design at $990, it's subjective whether you think that is high or low.
- bufferoverflow 9y agoSomething like 99designs makes a lot more sense, if you're willing to pay for a human-designed logo.
- djstein 9y agoon firefox nightly. literally cannot scroll / see any of the page if window is only at half height of my screen....
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- Jake232 9y agoOops. An error just happened Try again or comeback in few minutes.
- andys627 9y agoWorks better than expected - nice! Wasn't sure what to do at the icons screen. Maybe "close" should be "see logo ideas".
- username223 9y agoI tried it for "Pied Piper," and ended up with a few B&W pictures of pipes, and a propellor plane that might be a Piper Cub. Seems amateur.
- rsoto 9y agoGreat concept, congrats on shipping. I think there's a big market for automatic logo creation, however I don't think using icons from The Noun Project is the answer because the output looks generic, and that's not something you want if you are paying $30. I'm just thinking aloud, but the brand name should get the idea for the isotype and then generate it from scratch, not just using it. Also, the brand name should give the idea of whether is a serious business, or a playful one. On the experience I had a few ideas: after selecting the icons, there's no «next», just «close» button, which sounds like I will lose my progress. And I get you're generating the logos on the fly, but don't let me see a brief moment of "error creating your logo". At least wait a few seconds before showing it.
- theDoug 9y agoI wasn't aware that the speed to logo creation was a typical concern. Learning something new every day.
- softwareqrafter 9y agoCool! I would also love to recommend http://logodust.com http://logodust.com, for open sourced logo designs made by a design agency [1] that you can download and use for free. [1] http://fairpixels.pro http://fairpixels.pro
- bminoo 9y agoThanks for sharing. This is a great resource
- countryqt30 9y agoBasically it's "turn a unicode symbol into your logo." What's exactly the idea? The very point of logos is to be unique.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y agoI found one that I really liked. So I clicked "I like it", but now it is gone! I would really like a way to go back, so I could actually download, or screenshot my favorite.
- Glyptodon 9y agoI'm quite annoyed that it thinks it knows the first letter is always capitalized.
- tigerBL00D 9y agoI expected the app to somehow "understand" the brand name and that the meaning(s) would influence suggestions. I don't think that's happening, or at least it's very basic. I tried "Cloudera" and "Red Badger" and got very similar suggestions none of which had to do with the name at hand.
- caio1982 9y agoDoes not accept non-english brand names.
- unwind 9y ago... with the rather silly error message of: Only alphanumeric characters are allowed. 3-25 characters max. Also, I failed to remember that it was a ".co" domain, but of course getting the perfect domain is hard.
- hsson 9y agoHorrible UI
- deckar01 9y agoThe search is case sensitive which produces no result when your phone starts with caps automatically. I selected icon only, picked an icon, clicked close, and it showed me a bunch of text only logos with no icon. I went back, picked a shape, clicked close, and the loading screen just kept loading.
- deckar01 9y agoI was trying to provide helpful feedback. One of my favorite things about "Show HN" is when creators address feedback in real time.
- Todoit 9y agoHow does invoicing work when you use such a service? Where does it come from? Does it include VAT? I tried to figure that out via the chat, but the developer said he is "not sure". What does that mean? Isn't everybody who sells physical or digital goods required to provide a valid invoice?
- the_arun 9y agoWould be great if we have 1. Back button/link as well to go back and compare 2. Facility to short list icons and compare later to decide final version
- lazycouchpotato 9y agoWebsite doesn't seem to be working in landscape mode on phones.
- jacoblsievers 9y agoYes, UI is a wreck. In addition, services like this demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding as to what logos are for and how they function. You can't communicate your brand's identity effectively by clicking some buttons and going on your "gut." Do yourself a favor: pay for a professional.
- nkkollaw 9y agoOh, thank God. I saw that this link was second, checked it out and was baffled. I'm glad this is the first comment, I almost got scared people were praising the service. I agree with everything you said. A crappy logo is 100 times worse than no logo.
- mypalmike 9y agoA crappy logo might be 734 billion times better than no logo. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3321936091_04ff285b5e_o.png http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3321936091_04ff285b5e_o....
- nkkollaw 9y agoSure, like they were successful because of the logo :-/ I don't know why we have to always take the most improbable one-in-a-time cases like Facebook, Amazon, and other huge corporations and compared them with regular folks (whom are the ones who would use this tool). In this case, what does that prove?
- aantix 9y agoWhat are they for and how do they function?
- davidjhall 9y agoHow do you go about finding a good professional logo designer? Is there a marketplace for designers?
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- mdavid626 9y agoBrilliant, thank you!
- dlo83 9y agoI tried to buy a logo, but kept receiving a "Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support." Needless to say, not a good first impression.
- dlo83 9y agoI tried to buy a logo, but received a "Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support" message. Not a great UX, to say the least.
- Ne02ptzero 9y agoYou should add a previous.
- WaxProlix 9y agoSeems like it'd be good to be able to specify word breaks. For my little consulting company name, Forthright, it assumes that the word breaks are "For" and "thright", which results in some weird looking logos.
- geetfun 9y agoCongrats on the launch. Yes, some folks have mentioned about the UI not being optimized or whatever. But it's easy to defer launching with the hope that everything would be "perfect" from the get-go. In any case, it's a good enough MVP and hopefully you'll get some sales and valuable feedback to improve your product further.
- city41 9y agoThis is a nice tool and I would like to use it for my side project. My project is called "closet.zone", but when I typed that in, I got logos for "closet". When I instead typed in "ClosetZone", the tool seemed to interpret it as "closetz one", and stylized "one" in most logos.
- e2e4 9y agopricing: 1 logo for $19 only p.s. info displayed in the end of the process:
- foxhop 9y agoI agree that this sort of sucks for real designers but this is the sort of crap we are going to be dealing with more and more as proponents of AI and machine learning get their way. This tool is not useful for generating a great logo, yet. But it does produce a bunch of random ideas that might allow a human to come up with an awesome idea. For example I worked with a designer I found on craiglist for my logo for Remarkbox (https://www.remarkbox.com https://www.remarkbox.com) Her versions were everything up to the purple version: http://www.foxhop.net/remarkbox-logo http://www.foxhop.net/remarkbox-logo I was very happy with her work and help coming up with the idea, I paid her in full and ended up creating my own version which is the one I'm using today. I think this sort of program could be marketed to real designers to help them get the creative juices flowing. LogoFox is a very cool idea, basically hot or not or tinder of design, something I was talking to the founders of hatchwise about.
- bruce_one 9y agoQuick side note, noticed a small typo on your website: "Ad networks on free comment systems do more then hurt your brand, they also track, spy, and slow down your pages", that "then" should be "than", just fyi :-) https://writingexplained.org/more-than-or-more-then-difference https://writingexplained.org/more-than-or-more-then-differen... if of any interest
- xmichael99 9y agoWhy only alpha numerics? Totally fails me because of that
- aerovistae 9y agoi don't get it. isn't it just showing the text in a variety of fonts with different backgrounds and sometimes like a shape next to it?
- igorgue 9y agoThat's the definition of a logo.
- dreamling 9y agoThis reminds me of https://logojoy.com/ https://logojoy.com/ Does LogoFox also use AI (as logojoy said they do https://logojoy.com/press/ https://logojoy.com/press/)
- grandalf 9y agoNot sure how sophisticated the permutations are, but it seems that logos are a great way to test out various deep learning methods of image/symbol generation. As impressive as the AI music that sounds like Chopin is, I would love to see what can be done with a logo, especially if some copy about the company and product were also provided as input.
- quickthrower2 9y agoI'd change the heart button to "Like it & Save It". I was clicking Like it loads of times expecting something to happen then realized I was never going to get a logo doing that. I didn't realize the heart did anything. Also need some way of downloading them without giving the email. It is not clear whether giving my email is going to let me download them or just get back to where I was, where I need to buy them. Finally the logos seem quite basic for a premium service. I could knock those up in Inkscape for free.
- justhackedme 9y agoThis is not that good...
- wannabedevelopr 9y agoHm it gets stuck on "We are creating your logos as fast as we can", dying under HN pressure?
- quickthrower2 9y agoI wonder if this is trending because due to word shape pattern matching, for 50ms my brain thinks that is about Firefox which is itself hot news right now. Then one I realise it isn't I click anyway.
- slededit 9y agoYou should respect the capitalization in at least some of the suggested logos. I either got all caps, or only the first letter capitalized. If someone uses a non standard capitalization its probably for a reason.
- mr_ali3n 9y agoGood to see that you guys are using my redirecting loader https://codepen.io/mr_alien/pen/FDLjg https://codepen.io/mr_alien/pen/FDLjg hehe
- Lapsa 9y agotyped in 'LogoFox' and chose 'Anything'. i'm concerned
- kral 9y agoAs a lot of stuff nowadays, this is just another 'fast food' for startuppers, a random svg generator would have the same value.
- jfindley 9y agoHmm "fast" logo maker - sure, it's fairly quick to use, but is speed of creation really what people optimize for when creating a logo for their <whatever>? I feel like you'd be better off emphasizing ease of use for non-designers or something.
- harrygeez 9y agoLooking at the design on the generated logos, I'd say freelance designers need not worry for now