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Thank you for helping people spam PlayStore? This tool does not help anyone other than spammers, who make fake Icons and Screenshots and spam PlayStore. I beli

by kumarm 9y ago

Thank you for helping people spam PlayStore? This tool does not help anyone other than spammers, who make fake Icons and Screenshots and spam PlayStore. I believe that is the part of the reason why Dev himself hates the tool. Edit: 1) Create clone apps tutorial by dev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_CrJkz7-4g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_CrJkz7-4g

guilhermepontes 9y ago
Check mate.
gourou 9y ago
He acknowledges it in the article: > I also came to the conclusion that AppyGEN didn’t really help make the world a better place like every other startup I read about. It seemed to me like it was just making the play store a worse place, helping non-developers publish hundreds of unoriginal apps that only took away from the visibility and chances of more ambitious apps. > I was myself an app developer once and I could clearly see how my product ultimately harmed other developers. I started hating everything AppyGEN stands for, no matter how much money it continued to make for my existing customers.
- ryandrake 9y ago
  He hates it but didn't stop selling it. I understand though--I've had hard times myself and at one point almost considered doing stuff like this, or worse (go read up on lead generation, affiliate marketing--you'll need a shower afterward). But, one would hope that once enough income was made to get back on his feet he'd make the right ethical decision, end it, and move on to something else.
ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
Does anyone have an example of one of these clone apps that has done well? Why does this process only work in PlayStore and not IOS as well?
- oculusthrift 9y ago
  apple his a pretty rigorous review process for every app submitted where they manually test them
- whostolemyhat 9y ago
  Along with slower vetting, iOS has an annual fee of $99, while Android has a one-off fee of $25, which is probably enough to put people off.
  - oculusthrift 9y ago
    not to mention needing a thousand dollar laptop to develop on (and a thousand dollar phone to test on)
Toast_25 9y ago
Not surprising considering the author admits to creating malware in the first paragraph.
- astrodust 9y ago
  > I made my first $1000 at 14, selling remote administration tools to wannabe hackers. Step one: Dark side.
EO-IO 9y ago
Hi there, I'm the guy who wrote the story. I agree with what you said, and yes that is why I hate the tool. That was the point of the write up. I did not want to post this on hacker news, but seems like someone did. Edit : Our users do not spam the play store with fake icons though, they just make unoriginal apps based on templates ( Wallpapers, stuff like that ).
- minimaxir 9y ago
  If you did not want it posted on Hacker News, why did you post it on IndieHackers instead?
  - EO-IO 9y ago
    The idea was to share some of the things I learned along the way with people starting side-projects/pseudo-startups, more specifically helping them avoid the mistakes I made earlier.
- arkades 9y ago
  Funny, I couldn’t disagree more. The overwhelming majority of software does not “change the world,” and a tinier fraction yet of impactful software makes a notably -positive- impact. It seems to me that you let people’s self-serving bullshit into your head, and you’ve let it make you feel shitty for producing something people find valuable. I thought your article illustrated someone with a great amount of work ethic and resourcefulness. Doing that with the work at hand and not just what you feel “passionate” about is what separates the real go-getters from over-idealistic kids. I have a lot of respect for your work ethic.
  - EO-IO 9y ago
    Thanks man, this really means a lot.
    - arkades 9y ago
      I meant every word. If you ever want to get into developing something for the healthcare sector and need a brain to pick, I’d be happy to make myself available. You strike me as someone who’d get something done with the information.
mda 9y ago
If he really hates it so much why doesn't he stop selling it? Or he just wants us to know that he cries all the way to the bank?
ythn 9y ago
Ugh, I always wondered who is endlessly spinning these nearly identical candy crush clones (only thing different are the name and graphics) and now I know. They are all just auto generated from a template.
- Scoundreller 9y ago
  Coming soon to the PlayStore, FIFA 2018. The same engine as last year, but with different names on the same templates!

by kumarm 9y ago

guilhermepontes 9y ago

Check mate.

gourou 9y ago

He acknowledges it in the article: > I also came to the conclusion that AppyGEN didn’t really help make the world a better place like every other startup I read about. It seemed to me like it was just making the play store a worse place, helping non-developers publish hundreds of unoriginal apps that only took away from the visibility and chances of more ambitious apps. > I was myself an app developer once and I could clearly see how my product ultimately harmed other developers. I started hating everything AppyGEN stands for, no matter how much money it continued to make for my existing customers.

ryandrake 9y ago
He hates it but didn't stop selling it. I understand though--I've had hard times myself and at one point almost considered doing stuff like this, or worse (go read up on lead generation, affiliate marketing--you'll need a shower afterward). But, one would hope that once enough income was made to get back on his feet he'd make the right ethical decision, end it, and move on to something else.

ghostbrainalpha 9y ago

Does anyone have an example of one of these clone apps that has done well? Why does this process only work in PlayStore and not IOS as well?

oculusthrift 9y ago
apple his a pretty rigorous review process for every app submitted where they manually test them
whostolemyhat 9y ago
Along with slower vetting, iOS has an annual fee of $99, while Android has a one-off fee of $25, which is probably enough to put people off.
- oculusthrift 9y ago
  not to mention needing a thousand dollar laptop to develop on (and a thousand dollar phone to test on)

Toast_25 9y ago

Not surprising considering the author admits to creating malware in the first paragraph.

astrodust 9y ago
> I made my first $1000 at 14, selling remote administration tools to wannabe hackers. Step one: Dark side.

EO-IO 9y ago

Hi there, I'm the guy who wrote the story. I agree with what you said, and yes that is why I hate the tool. That was the point of the write up. I did not want to post this on hacker news, but seems like someone did. Edit : Our users do not spam the play store with fake icons though, they just make unoriginal apps based on templates ( Wallpapers, stuff like that ).

minimaxir 9y ago
If you did not want it posted on Hacker News, why did you post it on IndieHackers instead?
- EO-IO 9y ago
  The idea was to share some of the things I learned along the way with people starting side-projects/pseudo-startups, more specifically helping them avoid the mistakes I made earlier.
arkades 9y ago
Funny, I couldn’t disagree more. The overwhelming majority of software does not “change the world,” and a tinier fraction yet of impactful software makes a notably -positive- impact. It seems to me that you let people’s self-serving bullshit into your head, and you’ve let it make you feel shitty for producing something people find valuable. I thought your article illustrated someone with a great amount of work ethic and resourcefulness. Doing that with the work at hand and not just what you feel “passionate” about is what separates the real go-getters from over-idealistic kids. I have a lot of respect for your work ethic.
- EO-IO 9y ago
  Thanks man, this really means a lot.
  - arkades 9y ago
    I meant every word. If you ever want to get into developing something for the healthcare sector and need a brain to pick, I’d be happy to make myself available. You strike me as someone who’d get something done with the information.

mda 9y ago

If he really hates it so much why doesn't he stop selling it? Or he just wants us to know that he cries all the way to the bank?

ythn 9y ago

Ugh, I always wondered who is endlessly spinning these nearly identical candy crush clones (only thing different are the name and graphics) and now I know. They are all just auto generated from a template.

Scoundreller 9y ago
Coming soon to the PlayStore, FIFA 2018. The same engine as last year, but with different names on the same templates!