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US blacklists 17 firms from applying H1-B
- partycoder 9y agoSurprised to not see Infosys on this list. Business as usual for H-1B cheaters.
- spydum 9y agoThe actual source list: https://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/H1BDebarment.htm https://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/H1BDebarment.htm "The Wage and Hour Division maintains the list below of willful violator employers under the H-1B program." One really odd stand out on the list... Popeyes chicken?!? Yummi Enterprises, Inc. d/b/a Popeye’s Louisiana Kitchen 1310 El Camino Real San Bruno, CA 94066
- santaclaus 9y agoResearch scientists to discover that perfect mix of herbs and spices.
- dylanpyle 9y agoI'd guess this is a single franchise owner abusing H-1b petitions, not Popeye's corporate.
- protomyth 9y agoStrange, I thought hospitality workers were H-2B. I was surprise the local McDonald's had foreign workers here on visas. I think there was an article on HN about shortages of workers under those programs (east coast resorts?).
- mc32 9y agoWhat would keep these affected companies from creating new companies to engage in the same behavior?
- partycoder 9y agoOr outsource to a company that does the visas for them.
- justboxing 9y agoThis does nothing. The 'little guys' have gotten scape-goated. I don't see Infosys, CapGemini, TCS (Tata Consultancy Services), Cognizant, Tech Mahindra or for that matter any of the Top 10 H1B Visa Abusers [1] in this List. Business as Usual. It's strikingly similar to the list of countries in the Trump's Muslim Ban wherein countries that sponsored terrorism, but that in which he had business interests in ,were not listed, incl. Saudi Arabia ( 15 of the 19 911 hijackers were Saudi Citizens) EDIT: Addressing @praneshp's question. Microsoft might be a red herring, but the rest, esp. the Indian Companies like TCS, Infosys, Congnizant are also the TOP 10 Abusers of H1B Visa. Speaking from personal experience here. I've written at length about this on Quora, so don't want to re-hash it. You can read it here => https://www.quora.com/Being-on-H1B-is-it-worth-joining-TCS-in-the-US-1/answer/Shiva-Kumar-1902?srid=C5p https://www.quora.com/Being-on-H1B-is-it-worth-joining-TCS-i... Not only do these Indian Companies abuse the H1B Visa program, but they also abuse and underpay the workers they bring on the H1B Program. I've written about this also in my Quora answer linked above. [1] Source: https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2017/04/18/H-1BVisas-01_0.png https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/...
- praneshp 9y agoAsking because I have no clue: You just linked to the top-10 H1B holders, not abusers, no? I see Microsoft on that list, and find it difficult to believe they are abusers. From what I know from extended family, firms like the ones in the link do things like faking a job/resume, etc. Do the large Indian firms do that as well, in addition to flooding the lottery pool?
- bactrian 9y agoMicrosoft hires thousands of H1B workers for generic roles like project manager and software developer. Do you really think there aren’t Americans that could fill those roles? Of course there are but it would cost more. A true shortage would not affect Microsoft at all. They have as much money as anyone. This is a dirty secret of tech that you can’t discuss without being labeled racist or xenophobic no matter how untrue that is.
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- john_moscow 9y agoStrange move given that all you could do to stop the current abuse is to start prioritizing the applications by salary rather than picking them randomly until the cap is reached.
- adrianbg 9y agoThat would penalize startups, giving only large companies access to the foreign labour pool. It's rare that a problem like this has a simple solution.
- spinlock 9y agoStartups do not use H1B workers. A startup is actually hiring someone for a role and they can't take the risk that their guy will lose the lottery. Plus, the application is just beyond what most startups are going to have the time to do.
- cardine 9y agoThat is not even remotely true. Anyone who can afford a software developer can afford an immigration attorney to handle applying for an H1B. Plus it usually takes 2-3 years to know if someone isn't going to get the H1B lottery during their OPT which is a longer time horizon than most startups are concerned with anyways. I think most startups simply hire who they view as the most qualified person regardless of immigration status. Source: Have a startup that hires software developers.
- praneshp 9y ago> That is not even remotely true. Anyone who can afford a software developer can afford an immigration attorney to handle applying for an H1B. The problem with using sweeping statements like "anyone who can..." is that one example is enough to disprove you. There'll be Who's Hiring thread in a couple of days, watch how many young startups say no new H1Bs on that. Your OPT case is only true when hiring a student on F1
- Whiteskin_Kanye 9y agoH1-B is 100% the reason I don't get paid more. Half my coworkers are already H1-B, I'm just one of the few native people who accepted my job...
- nashashmi 9y agoWouldn't it been better for there to have been a silent blacklist? Won't these companies just rename themselves now to get around this restriction?
- the_rock_says 9y agoI don't see how by only blocking firms will help clean this H1B abuse. The H1B visa abusers and spammers should be screened out before the applications are put into the lottery. Having this process in place, companies like Infosys, TCS etc. can't misuse it as all the 'real' and 'well-deserved' applications are in lottery.