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The page is awkwardly sexist.. but that would be a pretty close to an awesome integrated numpad design for programmers.
by kev009 9y ago
The page is awkwardly sexist.. but that would be a pretty close to an awesome integrated numpad design for programmers.
- bauerd 9y agoWhat's sexist? The photos?
- katastic 9y ago2017, the year stock photography became sexist.
- pjc50 9y ago"became"?
- whichdan 9y agoYep. Like the FAQ page.
- bauerd 9y agoCan you please elaborate what is discriminating about the photos/FAQ contents?
- MBCook 9y agoYou don’t see a problem? That’s indicitave if the issue here. There are many people who don’t see anything wrong with this kind of imagery.
- bauerd 9y agoWell how about you enlighten me then?
- MBCook 9y agoThere are TONS of resources out there on sexist image of women in advertising. I’m not going to play the ‘why dont you spoon feed it to me so I can rebut stuff or change the discussion’ game. If you want to know there are plenty of resources. If you’re trying to be obstinant I’m not going to play. Given the general attitude here on HN I expect it’s the later.
- bauerd 9y agoAnd I'm not gonna play the "Guess other peoples' arguments" game. The pictures are sexist because they're sexist and if I want to know what makes them sexist I should find some resources that come to the same conclusion? Sorry, it's just stupid.
- MBCook 9y agoNo. The reason is because there are tons of resources out there on this topic. Nothing either of us say is going to be new, so there is no point in having a debate here. If you’re interested you can find the answers. But it’s a common tactic for trolls to try and get the other person to explain it all so they can try to poke holes or just annoy the other person. To “make you tell me why I’m wrong, mr supposedly good person”. And I don’t want to get into that. If that’s nit you, that’s fine. The resources you’ll find online will probably explain things way better that i would off the cuff typing into my phone anyway.
- b6 9y ago> But it’s a common tactic for trolls to try and get the other person to explain it It's a common tactic for SJWs to insist something is wrong and then refuse to present an explanation or argument ("go educate yourself!")
- whichdan 9y agoThe pictures are clearly sexualized. You'd never see pictures like that with men doing those poses. It's the same as the issue with booth babes.
- bauerd 9y agoOf course you would, the stock photography style is used extensively in the "Head First" book series: http://www.headfirstlabs.com/index.php http://www.headfirstlabs.com/index.php Edit: I'd also dispute that the photos depict anything remotely sexual.
- pbhjpbhj 9y agoSexualised? I think you've been indoors too long, or maybe I have, either way they don't seem in any way sexual to me. They're people smiling and holding the product, but sexual? Booth babes, absolutely, if they're dressed in an purposefully alluring way. [Though hang on, self-styled feminists have taught me "women should be allowed to dress as they please", erm, booth babes are fine as long as they're wearing what they want to wear???]
- soneil 9y agoWhile I tend to think this is leaning towards taking it too seriously, I’ll bite. The ‘booth babe’ problem. A ‘booth babe’ used in a marketting shot is standing beside the car. If a man was used, he’d be driving the car (or at least pretending to). These shots have the same problem. The “sitting in the car” equivalent would be a desk, with the keypad setup beside their regular keyboard, with someone pretending to actually use it. Yaknow, like a person uses a keyboard. Instead we get the booth babe effect of waving it around like a novelty-sized cheque. These models aren’t driving the car.
- mgbmtl 9y agoThe front page portrays professional women, dressed as professionals, promoting a product that they personally use. Normally, that would be cool. I know more professional women sysadmin then male sysadmins, yet the marketing is usually male-oriented. However, with all the baggage of sexist advertising in the tech industry, it's awkward. And then there's the images on the FAQ page, for guaranteed table flipping cringe.
- MBCook 9y agoThose are not standard ‘business’ poses on the home page.
- michaelt 9y agoI'd say they look more like stock photo poses. They wouldn't look out of place among https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&q=stock+photo+woman+calculator https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&q=stock+photo+woman...
- mgbmtl 9y agoStock photos are often pretty ridiculously sexist. My favourite are "mansplaining stock photos". For alternatives, I like https://www.stocksy.com/ https://www.stocksy.com/ -- they're a platform co-op, and have good quality stuff (I'm not affiliated, although I do like co-ops).
- epx 9y agoWrong in all counts :) Not even a good keyboard for anything. It is a joke from head to toe, from the women in the ad as if it were a sports car ("buy one of these and increase your hit rate with women" - haha), but I am quite tempted to buy one because I collect keyboards.
- phailhaus 9y agoI'm pretty sure the awkward photos are part of the gag.