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San Francisco hits 106 degrees, breaking record
- paulddraper 9y agoGuys, I guess your climate really is mild. I walked a few miles to the Sam Jose airport and noticed it was warm. Had no idea San Fran was setting records :) (Lived in Texas, Florida, Utah.)
- quickthrower2 9y agoLots of my town is hotter than yours in this thread
- paulddraper 9y agoI can see why so many people like living in California.
- Simon_says 9y agoSFBA has a great climate.
- bdcravens 9y agoI'm sure if there was a post complaining about property values in Austin plenty of SF folks would chime in ...
- jshmrsn 9y agoAll recorded time. 200 years is a blink of an eye on planetary scale.
- yequalsx 9y agoYour comment would be relevant if it weren't for the fact that there is an abundance of evidence that the Earth is overall warming and that the climate is changing. EDIT: Do people think it's relevant to mention that recorded time is minute compared to the age of the Earth whenever a weather record is broken? Such sentiments are prevalent amongst global warming deniers.
- labster 9y agoGP doesn't imply anything about AGW. It's possible to have a long perspective while still recognizing that this temperature is extraordinary for the Holocene. SF probably had warmer days in the Cretaceous but there were significantly more dinosaurs. So "all time" is still wrong.
- yequalsx 9y agoTrue. But whenever things like glaciers melting, Arctic sea ice melting, etc. get brought up as evidence for global warming someone inevitably mentions that recorded time is quite small in relation to geologic time. It's a response that is useless and it's annoying to hear. It's the global warming equivalent of Godwin's Law.
- averagewall 9y agoYou might be seeing global warming deniers in every shadow. Sometimes people just mean what they say without a popular political motivation behind it. I agree with the GP and the title irked me too. "all-time" is OK for sports or other human inventions where we do have a record of all time, but for the Earth, it's just wrong to misuse it for sensationalism.
- pizza 9y agoI think all that they are implying is that the recorded maximum of the short past is unlikely to place predictive limits on or reveal much about the potential enormity of that maximum's successor.
- yequalsx 9y agoThis is sufficiently well known that it doesn't need repeating every time a weather anomaly occurs. It seems to me that the post in question has come to be a rallying cry for climate change deniers. It has become coded language for a certain segment of the population.
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- mnm1 9y ago"San Francisco summers typically mean coats, space heaters and high heating bills. Air conditioning in city homes, well, it’s not even a thing." Author used the wrong tense here. He should have used the past tense. Air conditioning is an absolute must these days though so are coats and high heating bills (mainly in old buildings with bad windows/insulation). Same thing in the northwest (except the coats). I don't see many new places being built without AC in either location. This heat has been the norm for years and it's not going to go away. It's global warming anyone can feel and experience. Only idiots still cling on to their climate change denial bullshit at the expense of the rest of society.
- olivermarks 9y agoI've lived in the bay area for 26 years. We have a couple/few at most weeks of hot weather in the spring and fall, the rest of the summer the fog is sucked off the ocean by inland hot weather, and winters get pretty chilly. The idea that you need ac in SF is wrong IMO. East bay is a whole different climate and story....
- mjcl 9y agoWhen I moved to a building in SOMA (1045 Mission), I thought it was odd that the unit had air conditioning. Turns out the damn unit needed it most spring/summer days to keep the interior temp in the 70/80s. It probably had something to do with my unit being one of the live/work units on Minna that had all 6 walls made of either concrete or glass.
- seizethecheese 9y agoI don't know... since you bring up the Northwest, Seattle has had what feels like a lovely and temperate summer. Not sure what the stats say.
- edoceo 9y agoYea, we freak out (read: sun-flu) when it's over 35°C. Except for those few weeks of BC haze.
- tedunangst 9y agoSo is it a 500 year heat wave? I need all meteorological events reported in terms of centuries now.
- samstave 9y agoCeasar! The heat-wave is flanking our western border as we speak! The cold-front is to the north!! We have enough food and blankets to last the month, but once the winter hits, our troops shall be decimated!!!! --- Oh I thought you said centurions
- foobarian 9y agoYou sound like you were just listening to Dan Carlin's latest history podcast.[1] [1] http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-60-the-celtic-holocaust/ http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-60-the-cel...
- mousa 9y agoIt doesn't feel that bad either. I thought I'd be miserable but this dry heat is painless compared to 90s in the East.
- gnicholas 9y agoYeah, it's a dry heat, thankfully. 100° without humidity is better than 90° with 80% humidity, IMO. Fans are much more effective when it's dry; when it's humid, the evaporative cooling that they're supposed to create doesn't work as efficiently.
- tjr225 9y agoI used to live in Kansas City, Missouri. There it is not uncommon for it to be 100+ with 90% humidity. I'll take this any day.
- quickben 9y ago41 Celsius, for the rest of us.
- zik 9y ago41 is definitely warm but I think San Francisco has a pretty gentle climate in general. For comparison Melbourne Australia has a climate which is mostly similar to San Francisco but we also get temperatures over 41 Celsius every summer. Usually we get a couple of weeks in that range each year. Our record temperature was 47 Celcius (116 Fahrenheit).
- jacobolus 9y agoFor comparison the hottest previously recorded September 1 in San Francisco was only 32°C in 1952. (Mentioned in the article as 90°F)
- dghughes 9y agoOne 37°S latitude and one 37°N latitude from the equator I could have sworn Melbourne was much closer to the south pole. That gap in the ocean looks much smaller than San Francisco to the north pole. I live in that gap it's called Canada.
- kijin 9y agoThe gap south of Australia is in fact smaller than Canada. The problem is that there's a whole continent between the gap and the South Pole, and most maps truncate Antarctica near the coastline.
- selectodude 9y agoSan Francisco has one of the strangest microclimates in the world, with the mountains and the bay and the ocean all surrounding it on three sides. Mark Twain once (didn't, apparently, say, but it holds up) said "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
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- bkjelden 9y agoThere are plenty of days where I miss living in the bay area. Today is not one of them.
- cgb223 9y agoI'm sitting in Noe Valley on the top floor of an A/C-less apartment Please kill me, or send ice
- tbrock 9y agoI've got cold beers on 29th if you want.
- cgb223 9y agoI appreciate it Just jumped on BART to crash at a friend's place who has A/C I'm new to the area though and always looking to make new friends! Maybe another time?
- pjscott 9y agoCool showers can help. Even room-temperature water is great at transferring heat away from your body as long as the room is at less than human body temperature. Also, if you have a fan, this is a great time to point it directly at you. If you don't have a fan, Walgreens should be open for the next sixteen minutes. (I'm in similar straits at the moment, but feeling fine.)
- zachberger 9y agoI've been told hot showers are better. Opens your pores allowing your body to cool itself. I don't know if it is "true", but from personal experience, it works.
- cgb223 9y agoI'll just hedge my bets and take an awkward lukewarm shower
- blackguardx 9y agoTake this advice from a person that has lived with no A/C in hot and humid north east summers: cold showers at night go a long way to helping you get to sleep on hot nights.
- eli_gottlieb 9y agoSo you mean it finally stopped being chilly in San Francisco?
- alsetmusic 9y agoIt's 8pm here in the Bay Area and my home is reading 91.8 degrees with the sun down and all my windows open. I remember when I moved here in 2002 and my first landlord told me, "You're in the Bay, you don't need an air conditioner." That's still true, though. We only have heat like this around September with a little overlap before and after. It's pretty unpleasant for that six or so weeks, however. It's noticeably worse than 15 yrs ago, too.
- tehlike 9y agomountain view and surrounding area is pretty hot during the summer, and you need air conditioning. it cools down after 9pm or so, though.
- thevardanian 9y agoPalo Alto is never hot enough for an AC though. At least in my experience. It does get hot, but not totally unbearable.
- ridgeguy 9y agoToday at lunch with a friend in Palo Alto, we measured 106°F at our table in the shade. We ate outdoors because the cafe had no A/C and was intolerable.
- Stratoscope 9y agoEven on a normal warm day, so many Palo Alto restaurants are uncomfortably hot inside because of no A/C and poor ventilation. Especially the places that face south or west!
- trapperkeeper74 9y agoYup. Many restaurant owners: penny-wise, pound-foolish
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- mhluongo 9y agoLocal HD is sold out of standalone A/C units...
- toomuchtodo 9y agoAmazon?
- kornish 9y agoIt's supposed to cool back down by Sunday/Monday, so probably not worth it this time around (though definitely handy to have for the next).
- bdcravens 9y agoMy central unit was out, I bought 2 window units for $400. AC was fixed in a couple of days. I could have gotten a hotel room cheaper, but I'm more than happy to just put those units in garage in case it happens again. It seems kinda silly to have an Apple Watch on my wrist, but no back up plan for staying cool. (Granted, I'm in Houston ....)
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- ndonnellan 9y agoForecast for next Wednesday here in beautiful Austin is high of 86F and sunny. This can't possibly be Texas. lets ignore that 10" of rain we got last weekend... also my company is hiring. jk but seriously.
- usefulcat 9y agoAs a resident of TX, you have my condolences. Here we measure the intensity of our summers in terms of the number of days over 100 (typically around 4 weeks I'd guess). OTOH, SF rarely experiences temperatures that high in any year. OTOOH, because of that I'm guessing few people have AC. So yeah.. I feel for you.
- Mithaldu 9y agoCondolences? As citizens of the largest industrial nation whose president not only doesn't believe in climate change, but is even working actively to bury it: You don't get condolences, you get to apologize to the rest of the world and realize that you too need to work on fixing this.
- yladiz 9y agoDude, there's no reason to make his words political. Texas gets temps like this regularly, and thankfully they built their houses with AC, but some probably have dealt with not having AC for some part of the summer (in places like Texas or Florida it's required to have functioning AC by law, depending on where you're at, just like water and electricity). He didn't say anything about climate change, or anything about politics, so there's no reason to bring it into the discussion.
- Mithaldu 9y agoThis isn't political, this is about a country dragging the rest of the world along into death, and then commiserating itself not about how bad its own actions are, but about how bad the death feels.
- jjawssd 9y agoWET A T-SHIRT AND WRING IT OUT WELL, THEN PUT IT ON. You can get by with temperatures up to at least 100 degrees this way. Personal experience from heat waves in Europe where many people do not believe in air conditioning.
- tehlike 9y agoReminds me of this: https://www.vox.com/2015/3/23/8278085/singapore-lee-kuan-yew-air-conditioning https://www.vox.com/2015/3/23/8278085/singapore-lee-kuan-yew...
- msmith10101 9y agoI've been wondering if the heat will take down a few data centers in this area. I guess reddit is hosted on AWS, however, so its current outage is not related.
- shostack 9y agoI wonder if AC will pay for itself in resale value in the Peninsula these days. Just added it earlier this year and I'm damn thankful for it right now. Our neighbor recently sold and I remember talking to the agent at the open house. We were both standing there dripping sweat on a heat wave day. Now if I sold I'd hope for a heat wave because it would magnify the presence of AC.
- pocketsquare2 9y ago"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in... shit." - Mark "Citation Needed" Twain
- SubiculumCode 9y ago110 deg F inland near Sacramento. ugg
- nicklaf 9y agoYes but Davis is fun for taking walks at midnight when it gets like that. Safe and warm with a subtle cool night time breeze mixed in.
- SubiculumCode 9y agoIndeed. Pair that with a beer at the BeerShoppe, and a burger at Burger and Brews.
- thevardanian 9y agoIsn't that common though.
- JamesLeonis 9y agoIt was this day I discovered I no longer own shorts.
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- Filligree 9y agoFind a pair of scissors, make shorts.
- c3534l 9y agoIt got to 105 up here in Portland earlier this month. Remember to keep your windows open at night and try not to die if you can help it.
- LarryMade2 9y agoBeen doing that over in the Sierra Nevada foothills, except that last few days - as the smoke from the Yosemite Fires is hanging around all night (nasty stuff). Big thing is, if you can, open the windows at night/early morning and then close em up before it gets warm. Then keep windows AND curtains closed all day till later in the evening (after 7pm) when the temperatures go down. Curtains are a big insulator from the sunlight generated heat.
- tjr225 9y agoIn Spain and elsewhere in the Mediterranean all of the homes have functional wooden shutters. I suppose it is for this exact same reason.
- kijin 9y agoIt works much better when the walls are made of brick or stone. No matter how much insulation you stuff into a modern drywall, it will never match the thermal mass of solid stone.
- tjr225 9y agoInteresting
- JohnBooty 9y agoYeah, my wife and her family are big proponents of the "crank up the AC at night to save money during the day!" thing and it's just not very effective when talking about "modern" wood-frame-and-drywall homes. Edit: They also seem to think that this somehow makes sense when the temperature at night is below 70F. My wife (an otherwise intelligent person) insists on running the window unit AC at night with the thermostat set at 68F even when it's 65F outside. I've tried every "logical" alternative... adding ambient fan noise to match the air conditioner's soothing rumble... window-mounted fans to bring the cool air inside... I dunno, I've given up. Costs a few hundred extra bucks per summer but it's not the hill I want to die on. God knows I spend money on things she finds useless! (OK, in her defense, the AC spits out cool dry air instead of the cool damp air the outside world often provides here in the Philadelphia area, which borders on a tropical climate in the summer)
- fitzroy 9y agoGood night to sleep in your Tesla. https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-tesla-camper-mode/ https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-tesla-camper-mode/
- nicklaf 9y agoAfter living in Davis for university, coming back to the Bay Area feels like a walk in the park. I used to be bothered a lot more by the heat than I am now. On the other hand, I can't stand, say, Atlanta. I guess they say you should live in California at some point, but just not first. Humidity is something I just can't seem to adapt to.
- lightedman 9y agoAnd here I am thinking of going mining in 115F (46C) temps tomorrow.
- devappbkk 9y agoSF hits 106 degrees and it's earth shattering. It's around 100 almost everyday in places like Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur.
- Powerofmene 9y agoThat is hot IMHO. Grew up in Houston where it was hot and humid. Here in Nashville it is a balmy 59 degrees today but that is the result of Harvey and we have had 2 days of nonstop drizzle/light rain.all next week it is unseasonably cool....in the 70s to low 80s. Had a week in August this year in the 80s already. Climate change must be driving it as that is unheard of here. Typically August through early September are high 90s and we usually have 10-12 days of the month over 100. Humidity is usually anywhere from 40-80 percent. I don't think I could live without AC but it is the humidity not the temperature that gets me. Hope you all get a break in the temp soon. When it is so hot you cannot comfortably sleep fans and or AC are a must in my book.
- yeukhon 9y agoThis is why I prefer living in the basement of my own house (I live in Queens, NYC). Also I don't have carpet, and also not wooden floor (only upstairsnin the living room). Helps dissipate heat. Also room has enough space / gaps more surface areas to dissipate heat.
- matt_wulfeck 9y agoThe worst part about solar with PG&E is a power outage kills your production without a battery. Today I should have been able to easily offset a bit of demand on the grid during peak time, but they apparently couldn't keep the power consistently on in San Jose!
- snake_plissken 9y agoMy tech dudes and dudettes in the Bay, I feel for you. Kind of. 95 degrees in 20% humidity...it could have been worse John. A lot worse. Try networking 8 connection machines and debugging 2 million lines of code in 95% humidity at 95 degrees in NYC. But seriously. I get why it's a big deal and when someone isn't used to heat like this, it can overwhelm you. Just hydrate hydrate hydrate. And If you feel like making something this weekend to cool off, build an evaporative cooler. Check out: http://www.instructables.com/id/Swamp-Cooler-1/ http://www.instructables.com/id/Swamp-Cooler-1/.
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- gesman 9y agoI'm going jogging tomorrow to CSRA just for a fun of it Anyone wanna join?
- gnu8 9y agoI don't care.
- huevosabio 9y agoOn the bright side, we just spent a lovely evening sharing drinks with friends at Alamo Square park... Warm nice nights like this one are rare in SF
- zeristor 9y ago106°F is 41°C just in case anyone else completely lost
- trapperkeeper74 9y agoIt was 106 ℉ in Palo Alto today, and over 75 ℉ in the middle of the night.
- ap46 9y agoPsst....Ahmedabad hit 46C 2-3 years back.
- vondur 9y agoMy AC went out about 2 years ago, and I've been meaning to have it fixed, but realistically, it gets really bad around maybe 2 weeks of the year here in SoCal. For the really bad days, we just rent a hotel room. It was a 104 yesterday, just finished checking in.